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  • moojj, on 10/11/2007, -2/+130Very clever, I love this!
    • jer2eydevil88, on 10/11/2007, -3/+152It really has replaced AOL as the Virus you pay for.
    • AegisGFX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+160Its a virus that is so hard to remove that they had to make a special program to remove all traces of Norton from your system. In about half the cases I have seen, Uninstall simply does not work.

      http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039
      • Hentez, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Thanks, I was looking for this program
      • Slog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Whatever you do, don't follow Step 3.
      • Tricky, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This is so true... I've actually had a problem where when my Norton subscription expired, my computer got flooded with spyware, and Norton sat in the corner saying "Well I *could* fix that, but your subscription's expired... you wanna buy a new one?"
    • mcm297, on 10/11/2007, -17/+1They should have did something with (the original) Peter Norton being dressed up as the grim reaper:

      http://www.geocities.com/itpic45/Peter_Norton.JPG
    • darkened, on 10/11/2007, -40/+5For all you people that complain Norton slows your pc down too much, please upgrade to something that doesn't have a turbo button.

      Thanks, much.
      • EXreaction, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4To all you people who think Norton is great...

        Try a computer WITHOUT any ***** by Norton/McAffee/AOL installed.
    • affanjam, on 10/11/2007, -22/+3OK I have Corporate Edition of this software and I never get messages that my subscription is expired, nor does it give me random messages that i need to update it just does it. Im happy with it.
      • dacheetah, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2And on a scale from 1 to 10, how legal is YOUR use of this version?
        Sure Corp. Ed. (Which doesn't even have Norton's name on it, it's Symantec Anti-Virus by then) is MUCH better than the retail version, much sleeker, easier, and faster interface, and endless "subscription". But the licence costs enough that only a corporation could really afford it, hence it being the corporate edition. If you're using it at home, it's probably not legal, and while that's hardly going to stop most people around here, there are free and legal anti-virus suites that are better than SAV Corp Ed.
        • nipterink, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3or he got it from school. most colleges provide their students with antivirus software.
          • fmorel90, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1or he's using a laptop provided by his employer
            my dad gets the corporate edition on his laptop, which he can also use at home
    • speedk0re, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21@ aegisgfx
      I thought i was the only one that went through that hell. I used to work in support and would have to uninstall Norton Internet from people's computers because it taxed the crap out of their computers and blocked everything
      Norton's little uninstaller tool required ALL norton programs be uninstalled, so it would remove PC Anywhere, ghost, everything.
      HUGE pain in the ass
      • AegisGFX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3God no man, I have been through it a million times. When I hear from people that they are having problems with Norton I just cringe because I know I'm gonna have to uninstall it... that tool does make it a lot easier to get rid of tho.
    • centinall, on 10/11/2007, -2/+60Two things that I've noticed when the subscription ends:

      1) suddenly your computer slows down dramatically!!!
      2) suddenly it starts warning you about all these potential viruses it's found.
    • Nerfdude, on 10/11/2007, -6/+62people still use norton? this is like somebody saying they still use limewire. time to move on, this isn't 2002 anymore.
      • EXreaction, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Ya, I would say somewhere around 50% of computer users have Norton...

        Before you ask, it is because they don't know any better.
      • 00011000, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Limewire on the Mac is not bad. what do you use instead?
    • Jo9100, on 10/11/2007, -5/+24eh... I DO use limewire... whats the matter?

      anyway... NOD32FTW !
    • pixelate, on 10/11/2007, -0/+24Norton Antivirus, AOL, geocities all in the same thread.

      This page is like a time machine.
      • Abno, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Watch out for those Real Players. They'll buffer ya to death...

    • DamageInc, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12NOD32 ftw.
    • abhiroop, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7@aegisgfx (#7311249)

      Even Mcaffee is crazy to uninstall.

      They have a complete separate program that you have to buy to uninstall it, and to do a complete reinstall its better just to format your computer - takes less time.
    • lozzd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Don't worry AffanJam, I know what you mean. You're talking about SYMANTEC corporate edition, not Norton. Same company, corporate edition is great, with no stupid gimicky stuff to slow your computer down, Norton blows.
    • Dabellah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I do regular house calls daily for computer work and I deal a lot with NAV being related to issues people are having. I have to say it is only second to McAfee in my book of bad products for security on a PC. I've seen much worse situations with McAfee, not to mention that there is no SymNRT for it and I have yet to see it actually do something.

      Don't even get me started on Norton Internet Security... Seriously, how do these products make the shelves anymore?
    • Maeser, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7@dabellah

      Actually, there is. I wrote it.

      http://remove-it.org/?page_id=17

      This isn't some viral attempt, I have no google ads on my site. I'm just trying to get my name out there. It really does work.
    • strafefire, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15Thank goodness for Avast and AVG
      Giggity!
    • HoppyPotty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2mirror?
    • timo1023, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10I feel sorry for the poor soul who had to run Norton to get the screenshot.
  • revital9, on 10/11/2007, -2/+38Funny. Death to Symantec.
    • raitchison, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Their "corporate" antivirus 100% better, for one thing it never expires, you probably should upgrade every couple years to keep your "technology" up to date but you won't stop getting virus definitions ever. Also it is much less of a memory hog.

      Of course you need to have at least 5 PCs for this to be cost effective.
      • avihappy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Even better than the corporate is the Pirate Bay edition.
      • EXreaction, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Even better than all of those is Avast!

        And guess what, it is free also!
  • doshindude, on 10/11/2007, -4/+37So, Norton=the mafia.

    Hate to see what McAfee is.
  • linkin1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+120Symantic has deals with Intel and AMD to slow down processors, so you always buy a faster one.
    • ih8apple, on 10/11/2007, -7/+25Paranoid much?
    • Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+46Or maybe, *just maybe*... he was trying to be funny...
    • Easty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+28@Cl1mh4224rd
      Yeah, that's what he WANTS you to think.
    • crushfan, on 10/11/2007, -12/+0That was true.. When it was 19999.
    • gutistg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17Pime Taradox!
    • nontitle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11@crushfan
      19999? yep, i guess it will happen eventually.
    • Chris1280, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"As the norton army marches across the border of eastern Europe and clashes with open source rebels in a battle that would inevitably be the end." - 2084
    • dacjames, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0i opened these replies just to see if someone would miss the sarcasm... digg never ceases to amaze.
    • TastyLamp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It wouldn't surpise me....
  • reddevil3, on 10/11/2007, -3/+77Am I the only one who thinks that all these virus companies out there create at least some of the actual viruses (or get somebody to create them?) I mean they do want to be kept in business...

    /puts tinfoil hat on
    • digitallysick, on 10/11/2007, -8/+6@reddevil3

      I bet they do, its their whole business model, no virii, = no company, no job, no money. So i bet they let some things "get by" from time to time. I'm sure they all celebrate when a new virii is released.
    • MarkOfTheDead, on 10/11/2007, -7/+3haha i too must be wearing a tinfoil hat as i've speculated that too for a long time.

      doing in small installments of 19.99 what the RIAA is trying to do for thousands.

      it all boils down to extortion.
    • duhblow7, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10There's no need. There's enough of an incentive to write a virus these days that companies don't need to do it themselves. Most infected computers are being used to; spam, popups, adware installs, etc. There are some people getting damn rich off of this.
    • pluto9, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6@reddevil3
      I've been saying the same thing to for the past 7 years now, and nobody believes me.
    • Dabellah, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1@duhblow7 - "There are some people getting damn rich off of this."

      I read somewhere that it was estimated about $28 million was made from people clicking and purchasing the damn ads that riddle these computers. I'd hate to see what it has become now if that number is true.
    • Philluminati, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4And that includes Microsoft and their One Care product. As if the OS wasn't enough already to include costs of patches.

      Imagine if they actually eliminated viruses from their platform they would have to make thousands of people redundant. Talk about catch 22.
    • tb0n3r, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11@digitallysick

      Viruses. *Not* virii. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus
  • DeusNova, on 10/11/2007, -1/+59Anyone with those computer specs are smart enough not to use Norton hopefully.
    • 06metzp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Along those lines, I was wondering why a computer with those specs would have Norton 2003 rather than something newer (if it HAD to have Norton on it at all...)
    • pfpurcell, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I sell computers - and I can tell you - just b/c someone has the money to shell out for specs does not mean that they are smart enough to use the system.
  • morgrar, on 10/11/2007, -1/+77Wait, you guys use virus scanners?
    • MikeonTV, on 10/11/2007, -3/+48I just sent you an email. be sure to click the link k
    • Chazx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+35Common sense and the know-how beats any virus scanner.

      Actually I have kaspersky installed but not set to load on boot. If I ever need anything scanning I'll just load it up and scan it quickly. Best of both worlds. It's been a long time since I got infected.
      • EXreaction, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Common sense? You really need some kind of protection from the web these days...

        I don't know how many legit looking URL's I have gone to through a google search only to have Avast start screaming about a virus it found on the page.

        Just because you think that your not infected doesn't mean your not, common sense should say don't take unnecessary chances, especially when you have nothing to lose by protecting yourself (like a seatbelt).
    • duhblow7, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Better trained users goes WAY further than a virus scanner, adware remover, etc. Most viruses that people get infected with won't be picked up by a virus scanner, so long as the payload was packed correctly making all this software that f*cks your computer meaningless.
    • strictnein, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15"It's been a long time since I got infected."

      You've been infected? I haven't, but I'm just a lame ass who runs antivirus on my systems.
      • JonRick, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Well, have fun wasting ram and clock cycles.
        • strictnein, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Intel Core 2 Duo 6700 and 4GB. That's, theoretically, ~5.32 billion clock cycles a second. So I've got clock cycles and RAM to spare. Thanks for your concern though.
    • dbr_onix, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2"Common sense and the know-how beats any virus scanner."
      Common sense doesn't prevent accidentally clicking that shifty looking email attachment..
      • Giga, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Maybe not, but the scans Google Mail have in place tend to help...
    • msgyrd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I run linux and OSX exclusively, no need.

      /puts on the flame retardant jacket
      • jer2eydevil88, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1No need? You could run something to help stop spreading email viruses to friends.
  • berb, on 10/11/2007, -2/+46Site is slooooooow, here's a mirror:

    http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5206/gangstavirus2iy9.gif
    • steven401, on 10/11/2007, -13/+9ImageShack? Out with the old in with the new.

      http://bayimg.com/lAAECAabD
    • dbr_onix, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Considering the comments on the Digg IMGBay page about the number of "worse than goatse"-images it now hosts, the hell I'm clicking any imgbay.com links..
  • jackthehomeless, on 10/11/2007, -12/+0nothing to see here, move along.
  • andregriffin, on 10/11/2007, -7/+61AVG 4 Life.
    • mr_bako2, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2I tried "AVG" and "Avast!" and liked AVG more but somehow i still ended up back at norton, beucase i couldnt find a good enough free firewall. i was using some free firewall that started with a c, i think "COMODO" and it was OK but norton firewall is better than that, so i went back.
      and believe me, that's saying alot norton slows the hell out of my computer...

      *waits for google to put out a free antivirus/firewall*
      • fmorel90, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1you should try Sygate...it's good enough (can't remember if it was free or not though)
      • EXreaction, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Sygate is better than good enough...unless you have Vista, because not many firewalls work for Vista. :(

        And yes, Sygate Personal Firewall 5.6 is free (**** symantec for buying them out).
    • HornyFox, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I still prefer Antivir
    • airstrike, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2damn, you better update your antivirus.. they're all the way up to AVG 7 by now
    • MrEguy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2AVG is a great product. The free version is an excellent alternative to Norton's pseudo-extortion.
      http://www.grisoft.com/doc/products-avg-anti-virus-free-edition/
    • collapsibletank, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0^ This. Very this.
  • hawk3ye, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15Norton 2003 will make that processor feel like a P4. They got it right on their NOrton 360 releases but still damage has been done. NOD32 is nice, consider it.
    • pivovy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Agreed. I'd keep Norton away from that computer
  • AirwavesV2, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7Mirror with bayimg...had to try it out.

    http://bayimg.com/MAaDgaAbD
  • pugsby, on 10/11/2007, -12/+1[mirror] http://bayimg.com/MAAdDaaBd
  • compgeek, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2very very true
  • jbham184, on 10/11/2007, -8/+10this kind of thing makes me glad that i cant get viruses
    • superyounan1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12me too, no more living in fear or sacrificing half my memory on huge programs that constantly scan everything i do
    • sporg, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4Oh arent you two just a couple of little apple sluts. Why dont you go give their corporate execs a blowjob since your down on your knees already. Yes you will be expected to swallow.
      • parkermauney, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4You know, osx isn't the only os that is virus free. n00binstein.
    • dacheetah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I get viruses sometimes... But it gets me a few days off work, and with the right drugs isn't really all that bad.

      Oh, wait, computer viruses. No, I don't use MSIE, or open free_porn.exe type attachments.
  • dpaul87, on 10/11/2007, -9/+5Anyone with half an ounce of sense knows how NOT to contract virus's.. but there are those George Bush computers users out there.. billions of them. And yes i mean monkeys.... Ooohhhh ouch.
    • m0d3s7m1k3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2@dpual87

      I agree. I've been browsing the net and fiddling with computers for 12 years now and have yet to run into any sort of "virus". It's all about knowing what not to click and what sites you can trust. We should be pushing proactive methods instead of useless over-priced software!
    • one2gamble, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3dont stick your pencil anywhere without an eraser on it?
    • Philluminati, on 10/11/2007, -0/+312 years and not one virus? Have you connected to the internet? Before 2002 when firewalls were really common they were a real ass *****, you couldn't stop em.
      • dacheetah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I disagree, Before 2002 I didn't bother with anti-virus software, and still very rarely came across any. Since then I've decided that it's enough of a pain to remove them if they did get through, and I like to be able to scan suspicious stuff, so I've had either NOD32 or Avast! installed all the time since then. (And use SAV10 Corp at work)
  • icechen1, on 10/11/2007, -9/+10I am glad of using Linux -> no virus anymore
    • dpaul87, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6When Linux becomes as mainstream as Windows then there'll be virus's.
      • ripdog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Linux is STILL designed much better then any windows OS.
    • fubes2000, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5The beauty of open source software like linux is that even if a virus were written for a particular distribution, there are not only dozens of other distributions that would likely be unaffected, but thousands of programmers who can jump in at a moment's notice and patch the vulnerability the virus exploits.

      Maybe pull your head out of... the clouds and read up a little before you comment.
    • eteepell, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Quite valid. When more people use linux there will be more linux viruses. just download the virus binary, sudo root, ...
    • Philluminati, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2how will that then affect other people? will it email them and say download this and run me as root????

      Your thinking of malware / spyware, not viruses.
    • DeathGod321, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I am glad of using Linux too -> no games anymore

      wait, maybe that came out wrong...
      • Leviathan88, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1the only game i play is world of warcraft, so i don't care if other games don't work.
      • CWal37, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Is that supposed to be a good thing?
  • po43292, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14Their Ghost software is the only good thing they've made.
    • Xplorer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Ghost was purchased.....
    • gungaroo22, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Too bad Blizzard decided to end that project.
  • pwherman512, on 10/11/2007, -12/+2Stupid *****.
    • Kbiscu1t, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'm sorry but that was really lame. Yes, Norton is not the best out there, but think of what the developers are doing for all of the users!
  • GafferXL, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1More like 'Norton Virus".
  • truthteller, on 10/11/2007, -19/+2Fake
  • claughery, on 10/11/2007, -17/+5buy a mac.
    • dacheetah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I've got a Mac. It's even got an authentic coating of dust over it. (Ok, so it doesn't have the dust, but it still doesn't get nearly the use of my PC desktop or laptop.)
  • mortigon, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21Free AVG FTW!!!!
  • yingjai, on 10/11/2007, -6/+5i gave up on antivirus scanners ages ago... i have yet to contract a virus or spyware for that matter.
    • Philluminati, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2you dont know that
    • Wacer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Then not only don't you know if you have one, your machine is probably pumping out spam as a zombie.
  • mash8591, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15naaah AVAST M'HEARTIES!

    (http://www.avast.com/)
  • thenoseymethod, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0Perfect!
  • Jeezoflip, on 10/11/2007, -10/+2Macs dont get viruses
    • mortigon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Aww, well you go have fun now.
    • dacheetah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Then why do they sell Anti-Virus packages (including norton IIRC) for the Mac?
      Oh, and My PCs don't get viruses, regardless of weather I'm using Windows or *nix.
  • 90Nz0, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2Oh for PETE'S SAKE people ! You're killing b3ta !

    Please can you all go away or something.

    =(
  • lime3k, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4AVG enough said
    • eteepell, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Good 'nough for my wife. dont think we ever got no virus.
  • bicyclethief, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3Digg me down but....AV probably SHOULD be hard to uninstall. Consider that there are plenty of malicious programs out there whose first order of business is uninstalling your AV before doing anything bad.
    • dacheetah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Requiring an admin password lock (which most have these days), or even a "captcha" would be enough to stop malicious code from uninstalling your anti-virus software. Besides, most malicious code that would uninstall an anti-viral suite would also be detected as malicious before it was even executed. That's what heuristics are for.
      Making something hard for code, but easy for people isn't that hard to do, and most of the free anti-virus programs manage it perfectly...
  • cryptomystic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19NOD32 is so much better then Norton's it's not even funny..
  • davidhildreth, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6ah, because the size of the hard drive factors into how "nice" a computer is
    • RevEng, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7In that case, let me just trade you for this 4GB drive I have here. Oh, what's that, your computer doesn't run so well anymore?
  • ultrafez, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Try Kaspersky. It's not a memory hog, and is easy to get rid of if you want to.

    Now I could have thought of some Soviet Russia jokes to put in there, but something tells me I'd get seriously dugg down if I did...
    • eteepell, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2How dug down will I get

      In the US, you can catch a virus.
      In Soviet Russia, virus catches YOU!!
    • internetworld7, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0LOL! Most people commenting here are clueless as to the changes Symantec has made to Norton Antivirus. You guys are comical. I tried Kaspersky Internet Security Suite but it was way toooooo obtrusive and invasive. CyberHawk is a lightweight ant-malware program that complements you antivirus program. Kaspersky kept identifying this as a trojan which it is not. In fact it was just recently purchased by PCTools the makes of Spyware Doctor. Unfortunately there was no way to stop this. Nice detection rate but too aggressive. I'm using a combination of NAV 2007 and Webroot SpySweeper 5.5 which both have been redesigned to be significantly lighter on system resources. I hated Norton just like most here but this new 2007 version has won me over.
      • ultrafez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1No, Norton is still bad... if you have a false positive, then add the app to the Trusted list. And how is Kaspersky invasive/intrusive? It is silent unless you put it into training mode, where it asks you what to do every time a network app wants to access the 'net...
  • eteepell, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1clamwin.
  • twrife, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I hate Norton.
  • ladyarcher85, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Because Norton is a virus that is so hard to remove they are now threatening you if you don't sign up for their software?
    Only bullying!!!
  • maskedm564, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I use to really like Norton's AV products. But over the past 2 years I've started to notice that they catch less and less stuff. Even when they added spyware support it doesn't seem to do much to get rid of it. Hell, my company was even infected by a virus that USED Symantec's Corporate edition AV to spread. It exploited some hole in the software and it spread through it. Imagine how we had to clean a virus that used our anti-virus to spread!!!

    I still don't trust Mcafee to save my life.

    Anyone have any better options?
    • josh1413, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I heard Zone Alarm Internet Security 2007 is very good. It uses the Kaspersky engine which is supposedly the best. Low on recourses too i believe.
    • internetworld7, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Yes, Norton Antivirus 2007 and Webroot SpySweeper 5.5
    • dacheetah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Free there is:
      AOL's something shield (Basically Kaspersky with an AOL skin, for those who are willing to pay with their soul rather than money)
      Avast! (for personal use at least)
      AVG
      ClamWin

      For Cheap:
      Kaspersky
      NOD32
      Avast! (for business)

      I'm sure others can recommend more.

    • dacjames, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I really like kaspersky, its never a bother and the network monitor is quite handy.
  • josh1413, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This is kinda off topic with norton, but has anyone else noticed Trend Micro PC-Cillin 2007 is getting bogged down? It to is starting to scan every stinkin file or program i open. On top of that it spends 30 seconds to a minute at startup scanning everything and it can't be stopped unless i end the program. Avast or AVG I may be knocking at your door soon..........
  • ThatEvilGuy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4I lol at everyone who says NOD32 FTW.

    Recently I downloaded a warezed powerdvd with a keygen, I ran the keygen, firewall asked to connect to some odd address, I didn't pay attention, I was running the latest NOD32 2.7, later I ran the same keygen on my virtual machine with AVG on, guess what? it detected a trojan downloader.

    Besides AVG, only Kaspersky was the one that spotted it, NOD32, Avast, Antivir, all of them failed.

    Don't believe me? feel lucky? try it yourself. I hope some of you do and return with results, I want to make sure that it's not only mine AVs that can't detect it.
    http://rapidshare.com/files/38335299/keygen.zip.html
    • josh1413, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2i downloaded that file. PC-Cillin didn't detect it as a virus but it did allow me to block it from connecting to a server
    • efinit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3i scanned it with zone alarm security suite which supposedly uses the kaspersky engine but it detected nothing.
    • ThatEvilGuy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Thanks for the replies! josh1413, It places 2 files(according to AVG) in your system32 folder, one of them is wm.exe, you better delete it, and I think the other one was system.exe. I was wondering and planning scan it with a PC Cilling AV, glad you did, saved me time, sucks it doesn't detect it though :(

      efinit, the way kaspersky detected was by "injection check" it didn't even know it was a virus, it just says something(wm.exe in this case) is trying to inject itself into explorer.exe. I doubt ZA has that feature, only Kaspersky does, Zone Alarm just uses it's core engine.

      Btw, have you guys tried installing AVG and trying the same thing with AVG running?
      • internetworld7, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I just submitted this file to www.virustotal.com which scans files using 30 anti-malware engines! Neither AVG or Kaspersky was able to detect this. However eSafe, Fortinet, Panda and Webwasher-Gateway were able to detect the presence of a trojan horse.

        What is interesting about this is that Norton did not detect this either at Virus Total but when I executed the program after downloading it, Norton 2007 immediately detected this as IRC Trojan. It appears that most antivirus engines have a hard time detecting malware until it is executed which is dangerous but I'm glad my Norton 2007 did not fail me! Norton 2007 has been redesigned to be significantly lighter on system resources and a much improved detection rate. I use to hate Norton and love NOD32 but now it's the other way around.

        NOD32's detection rate is HIGHLY, HIGHLY, HIGHLY over rated. It's lightweight and effective but definitely not the superior product that it has been hyped up to be. Take a look at recent studies conducted at www.av-comparatives.com and for the less techie take a look at PCWorld's ratings: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130869/article.html
    • 1598741, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Too bad I don't have a system32 folder or even C: for that matter.
    • internetworld7, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Let's not lose perspective here, anytime you download key generators and cracked software you are playing Russian Roulette with your PC. Torrent sites are a haven for malware that has been designed to defeat most Antivirus engines. Whether it's a torrent site or just a simple download site that host these types of programs, you should avoid these like a plague. Dont' believe me? Take a look for yourself:

      http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=4c7h4nrfzt
    • ateoto, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Just want to add in, that I have the latest version of NOD32 and I can confirm it does not detect this trojan. I let it run for a bit on a test box. It tries phoning home to 69.60.115.30

      It sends a HTTP Request to that IP with the following data for the PC I was on.

      Request URI: /stat.php?nick=[yimlh]_nightingale&info=_Operating_system:_Windows_XP_(Service_Pack_2)@_Memory:_960/2047MB@_CPU:_2225MHz_with_2_processor(s)@_Uptime:_0_day,_22_hour,_and_30_minute@

      Nightingale is the name of the infected PC. It didn't send anything back to the PC as that throws a 404. Shame, I was having fun.

      I was watching it through Wireshark for those of you interested.
    • Continuum, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Don't use questionable free_Software!!.com.txt.exe cracks.. just enter a serial number.
      plain text ftw!
    • HsoKinees, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1http://www.virustotal.com/vt/en/resultadof?2dfd3ffef6baca590e0a23236dec367f

      only scan of the keygen.. doesn't look too lethal.. and according to this site, Kaspersky didn't spot it.. the only antivirus apps that did notice something unusual is the apps i've never heard of, heh.. which to me, sounds like a "look!! we had a virus!! please buy our software!!" >_<

      suggestion for all: use keygens inside a secure(VM) environment
  • plastiqmanb, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4anyone who purchases Norton deserves to die a slow computer retarded death

    worst anti virus ever created.
  • cultist667, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1In the name of the father son and holy spirit! Symantec you are compelled to leave this pc and go back to hell! *blows inside of pc with norton av on it with holy can of compressed air*
  • pwherman512, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1People, people, people. Get a grip. Do NOT you anti virus programs! Please- I want to gain control of your PCs!
  • vladtia, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1NAV IS a virus. When will people figure that out? want real security get with these guys http://www.eeye.com/html/index.html
  • avisotin, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Will it blend?
  • endgame, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4NOD32 FTW!!!!
    www.eset.com
  • snooly, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0It would be a shame if something happened to it. Like installing Linux.
  • dakilla91, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2What about "I torrented the product?"
  • zinzimac, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4comment system..arrgh
  • Elohir, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1b3ta makes my special places happy
    • collapsibletank, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0:O)
    • echan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2why do they get dugg down?
      b3ta is the ***** and we all know it except they're brits
  • Skidman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Wow. I would feel violated if Someone knew my computer specs
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