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- GhostyBoy, on 02/25/2008, -18/+576Religions and cultures need to adapt to the reality of the information age.
If your belief system cannot co-exist with reality then it is obsolete. Adapt or disappear. That is the reality of evolution and no amount of denial is going to change that. - SpectreFire, on 02/25/2008, -10/+368Dear Pakistan.
***** you.
Sincerely,
The Internet. - Cannon49, on 02/25/2008, -7/+296Anybody not in debt has more money than the US government,
- wiifm69, on 02/25/2008, -2/+269I sure hope Pakistan does not discover google images...
- keepinithamsta, on 02/25/2008, -9/+229Google has more money than the United States government. They should be able to declare war on Pakistan.
- inactive, on 02/25/2008, -2/+205The Pakistani government is putting the blame on blasphemous videos, but I talked to a two Pakistani co-workers and they both say it's about the recent election fraud clips that were uploaded to Youtube which caused controversy in Pakistan.
- doxx, on 02/25/2008, -3/+197YouTube globally was down for over an hour, the ISP PCCW was allowing Pakistan to announce a more specific route to the YouTube IP space, which all routers will honor. This caused all requests to go to Pakistan for YouTube. PCCW then shut down their Internet connections to Pakistan which resolved the problem.
- CAPITALLETTERS, on 02/25/2008, -2/+189The internet is serious business.
- dhughes, on 02/25/2008, -3/+189 Time to snip another undersea cable.
- dcd722, on 02/25/2008, -2/+164Thats why I couldn't watch the cute 3 year old girl talk about star wars.
- thebellmaster1x, on 02/25/2008, -3/+151...And so do most people IN debt.
- funkywood, on 02/25/2008, -5/+139"If your belief system cannot co-exist with reality then it is obsolete. Adapt or disappear. That is the reality of evolution and no amount of denial is going to change that."
That is one awesome quote. - jdh24, on 02/25/2008, -3/+129Personally, I can't wait until the war between Google/YouTube and Pakistan.
- doxx, on 02/25/2008, -1/+124 From: sdhillon@decarta.com
Subject: YouTube IP Hijacking
Date: February 24, 2008 12:27:29 PM PST
To: nanog@nanog.org
As you guys probably know Youtube's IP's are being hijacked. Trace:
~ $ host youtube.com
youtube.com has address 208.65.153.253
youtube.com has address 208.65.153.238
youtube.com has address 208.65.153.251
[Same /24]
701 3491 17557
64.74.137.253 (metric 1) from 66.151.144.148 (66.151.144.148)
Origin IGP, metric 100, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 65010:300
Last update: Sun Feb 24 11:33:05 2008 [PST8PDT]
3491 17557
216.218.135.205 from 216.218.135.205 (216.218.252.164)
Origin IGP, metric 100, localpref 100, valid, external, best
Last update: Sun Feb 24 10:47:57 2008 [PST8PDT]
So, it seems that youtube's ip block has been hijacked by a more
specific prefix being advertised. This is a case of IP hijacking, not
case of DNS poisoning, youtube engineers doing something stupid, etc.
For people that don't know. The router will try to get the most specific
prefix. This is by design, not by accident. This is a case of censorship
on the internet. Anyways, I hope this doesn't get into a political
situation, and someone stops this.
What action are you going to take? Are you going to filter
announcements from AS17557, or just filter that specific announcement?
Considering youtube is a fairly high-traffic website I think that other
operators are just going to start filtering that AS. This is a great
example of global politics getting in the way of honest corporatism.
This is also an example of how vulnerable the internet is, and how lax
providers are in their filtering policies. I don't know how large
Pakistani Telecom is, but it I bet its not large enough that PCCW should
be allowing it to advertise anything. - Ajajadude, on 02/25/2008, -3/+125My money is on Google.
- Emused, on 02/25/2008, -3/+104"The leadership of Pakistan just created a massive Denial of Service on their own country." HAHAHAHAHAHA.The old brown-eye routing table.
- mvisa, on 02/25/2008, -4/+104Oh so that's why it was down. It is normally fine, was wondering why it wasn't loading.
- romistrub, on 02/25/2008, -4/+99Well... at least the comment suits your name.
- doxx, on 02/25/2008, -4/+92Google should sue PCCW for negligence which allowed Pakistan to announce the IP space.
- Danial, on 02/25/2008, -5/+85This is why I'm glad to live in America over my birth country of Pakistan.
Pakistani government can be so retarded at many times (if not all the time).
What do you expect from a country that is #1 in Google searches for pornography? - Malarie, on 02/25/2008, -4/+82If a country like Pakistan can shutdown Youtube, I wonder what kind of ***** a Government like the USA can do
- wissler, on 02/25/2008, -2/+78It took them this long to figure out that YouTube had blasphemous content?
- inactive, on 02/25/2008, -2/+69with what, google bombs?
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 02/25/2008, -1/+66Digger please...
- Danial, on 02/25/2008, -0/+63That's 100% correct. Reminds me of the Pakistani government's decision to ban GEO News broadcasts last year.
- purag66, on 05/13/2009, -0/+59All people....
- thebellmaster1x, on 02/25/2008, -3/+61Freedom of speech is in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Last time I checked, Pakistan is part of the Universe, so people have the right to criticize their religion both inside and outside the country. I plan to criticize religion whenever I want to, and there's nothing you can do to stop me without violating my rights as a human being.
- elvenseven, on 02/25/2008, -8/+58Why haven't the US sent some Democracy yet?
- MellerTime, on 02/25/2008, -1/+51Yeah, once they get their hands on that 700 mhz spectrum next year, they'll begin broadcasting YouTube directly into your brain from their secret moon base. I, for one, welcome our new wireless Pakistani-fighting overlords.
- Lutremi, on 02/25/2008, -6/+56Google is a god. And everyone knows you don't f*ck with a god.
- SirBrittanicus, on 02/25/2008, -18/+66A second Youtube just hit the South Tower.
- lasermic, on 02/25/2008, -0/+46Yup, your information is correct. There indeed were some clips showing election fraud in Sindh province. I suspect that it's the only reason youtube has been blocked.
Update: I just check youtube. It is accessible now. - magoghm, on 02/25/2008, -2/+47Next year's Darwin Awards: idiot explodes while attempting to attach dynamite to a pig wearing a mask of Muhammad.
- astrimbu, on 02/25/2008, -4/+49Is hijack really the right word to use here?
- aldenhg, on 02/25/2008, -4/+47You were without youtube for an hour. Calm down and go outside
- mcmlxxii, on 02/25/2008, -1/+44maybe next time the world's ISPs won't be quite so keen to listen to Pakistani Telecom. Do I hear "wolf"?
- Ajajadude, on 02/25/2008, -1/+43Do we really want someone like that guy outside? The world might be safer if he stays indoors.
- beantownsteppaz, on 02/25/2008, -1/+43The Pakistani Government was tired of getting Rick Roll'd all day
- dtfinch, on 02/25/2008, -0/+39Seems like a bit of a security risk, letting any country globally redirect any ip range to their own servers.
- willfe, on 02/25/2008, -1/+40It's okay -- evolution will still believe in you :)
- inactive, on 02/25/2008, -2/+401) Buy ISP in 3rd world *****
2) Hijack the entire ***** internet
3) Profit
No question marks here. Maybe they need to build in just a bit of security on how the routing tables for the largest sites in the world get altered. - staeiou, on 02/25/2008, -0/+37Can someone explain to me how some random ISP had the ability to route all traffic in the world to their ISPs? I read the blog post, but I guess I don't fully understand what BGP routing is. I read the Wikipedia article, and it seems that the ISP can only suggest a better or worse path - they can't change the destination without hijacking the DNS record. Or did they suggest a route that went through Pakistan and then got overloaded? If that were the case, the self-correcting nature of packet-based routing would find a better path, right?
- Zarokima, on 02/25/2008, -2/+38The thing about evolution is that even if you don't believe in it, you're still going to be left behind as the better people advance and leave you with your head up your ass.
- inactive, on 02/25/2008, -4/+39they stole precious diggs!
- JakeWins, on 02/25/2008, -2/+37You are mixing up three completely different numbers here. The amount of money that passes through an organization has little to do with how much savings that organization has (US net "savings" is at about negative 9,320,676,142,812.40 USD as of ten minutes ago). The same goes for an organizations net worth, although net savings is included in that number.
Thus, youTube has more money than the US gov't. Epic Win. - TraumaDrama, on 02/25/2008, -0/+34And all celebrity pets...
- cjs119545, on 02/25/2008, -3/+36EVERYONE has more money than the US government. unless some poor old fool has managed to buy houses and car's worth 8 trillion dollars and not pay for them..
- jorisb, on 02/25/2008, -0/+33When you type youtube.com it first gets translated to an ip address (DNS)
These IP addresses in turn get routed to a physical location, internet routers constantly update each other about which router is connected to each ip address. (routes). This pakistani company decided to falsely advertise the route to youtube as being somewhere in pakinstan.
Routing is based on a lot of trust that this kind of thing doesn't happen, I hope these idiots learn their lesson. - analogkid01, on 02/25/2008, -8/+40BGP = Blasphemy Gateway Protocol.
- centerblack, on 02/25/2008, -6/+38Just like the guy who claimed the Earth was flat on Iraqi TV because the koran doesn't mention it being round and the koran is infallible.
Just like the people who believe that the earth is 6000 years old, humans co-existed with dinosaurs, and that a guy named noah saved two of every animal from a great flood.
When your religious beliefs are in direct conflict with what we know to be reality, you should be encouraged to investigate what else your religion is wrong about. -
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