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Would You Volunteer To Be Implanted With A Microchip?

kxan.com — Yet another story about different people getting their RFID's implanted for different reasons; all the while paving the way for homeland security to start project citizen scan.

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  • tidu, on 10/12/2007, -9/+37Depends how it enters my body...
    • gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -30/+9Ahh, this one wasn't modded down yet.

      Yea, if theres a way to connect the chip to my nerves in my arm and somehow use that to stream porn to my visual cortex, I'd be fine with it, you know?
    • quietbob, on 10/12/2007, -24/+5...depends on how loudly I enter and exit Wal-Mart stores...
    • armbar, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18Well, you are "quietbob", so I imagine it won't be too loud.
    • Veamon, on 10/12/2007, -22/+4Probably through your pee-hole.
    • texpundit, on 10/12/2007, -10/+35"Would You Volunteer To Be Implanted With A Microchip?"

      Not just "no"... but "HELL no". Period. End of story.
    • bbtrev, on 10/12/2007, -17/+8Hell YES!!

      I hate carrying around all these security cards, credit cards ID, car keys, etc. And RFID chip in my arm it the first step to junk freedom and an totally cashless society. Sodly for the homeless, though, they would need to go buy some form of reader to be able to beg for money form me!! :-)
    • rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Depends on how it exits my body.
    • ZenKai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Oh, JUST what I need. I can be the first case of illegal wiretapping on my armpit. "We know for a FACT that you didn't discuss business on that lunch last week. No write-off for you!"
    • DigiShaman, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15@bbtrev

      You want to wear the "Mark of the Beast" where you can be tracked and your money is controlled and taxed without your consent?

      If it hasn't sunk in yet, just think of the "Beast" as the government. It always grows and hungers for more and more power and control. With this chip, you're it's bitch and effectively marked.

      You've been 0wn3d!
    • afx1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Wait, no, it hasn't sunk in yet. Please go on about this "Beast"/goverment metaphor you seem to have come up with...
    • shuichiyuki, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I am not a dog and I do not want to be treated as one. This will just allow for our extremely corrupt government to be more taxing, and just give them more power over us. It is bad news.
    • bbtrev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@DigiShaman
      Dude, my money is already taxed without my consent, and if an RFID tag will let the ladies find me more quickly, I'm all for it. If you want to start spewing religious drivel, go have a sit-in with your anti-stem cell friends.

      I guess the big difference is that I live in Canada. We don't need to worry about our government tracking our every move! (Booya!)
    • rheaume, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@bbtrev

      Dude, you know Harper got elected right? Have you kept on eye on what he's doing? he's using the Bush playbook right now, issue by issue. Welcome to hell
  • BradDollar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16I would get it if there would be a guarantee the government or somebody would not use it adversely. Since that will never happen there would have to be an easy way to remove it myself when I deemed it neccesary. Since I don't see either of those happening ultimately I would never get it.
    • namgge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Well there would be a guarantee, but knowing the government, they would just screw you over anyway.
    • jgjay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1RFID tags respond to a "KILL" command, in which, and I paraphrase from the RFID Specification "A tag must cease responding to any further commands from any interrogators".

      So, you wouldn't even have to have the tag removed, just issue the kill command with a valid kill password and the tag is rendered dead.
    • JohnboiWaltune, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Do you really think the government tags would work that way?
    • jgjay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What are these "government tags" of which you speak? Pure fantasy that's what. The world went through this hysteria with the birth of the barcode... you think we'd have moved on some since then.

      There is NO WAY IN HELL "the government" (you realise there is more than one BTW?) could decide to implant everyone with customised tags to uniquely identify them. Nobody would stand for or allow it.
  • NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Despite the fact that I usually love all new technology, getting implanted with a microchip is still rather terrifying to me.

    No matter what guarantees I get that it will not be used maliciously or surreptitiously by the government or otherwise, I'm not particularly fond of being so inseparably attached to a digital identity.

    It takes very small steps to move from using something like that to unlock your house, start your car, or pay for something, to tracking your movements, monitoring what you buy and show interest in, and a new form of identity theft. It's a step closer to big brother in a way we've never seen before, and knowing how much governments like secrets, it wouldn't be hard to imagine (NSA wiretapping anyone?) them moving into significant surveillance.
    • nj10ii, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1The conviences would be many, and the "only" thing I would object to would be, as to what you've already spoken to - new form of Identity theft.
  • adam98971, on 10/12/2007, -15/+6id do this in a sec a chance to be on the cutting edge

    anyone that reads sci-fi knows that the future hold places for chip inserts to make life easier
    • hexdoll, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Anyone that watches old sci-fi films know that they got it right.
      Soon we will all be wearing tin foil suits to stop people from reading all the RFIDs we are implanted with.
  • cambrown99, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24Beware the RFID chip that's programmed with the numbers "666"
    • hiscity, on 10/12/2007, -11/+10Imagine not being able to get into the premium section of a website without first punching the "666" button!

      Remember, you don't have to have the "mark of the beast" implanted. To be able to buy or sell -- just using the 666 name or number is enough.

      And if you do use the 666 pass-code, you're part of the antichrist system, the group that rejects Christ. You'd be making the decision to be part of that group, rather than the group that believes the Bible and follows Christ.

      "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." (New Testament, KJV, Revelation 13:15-18)
    • ZenKai, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8"Thou art out of thy bloody mind."
      -ZenKai 4:12
    • fires, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It can only be the mark of the beast if everyone's RFID id is 666.
      That would negate the whole point wouldn't it?

      People have been hysterical about the 'end times' since Jesus said he'll be back before all his disciples are dead:

      "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall
      not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
      kingdom. (Matthew 16:28)

      How do you explain that?
    • cambrown99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just to clarify: My comment was a joke.
  • Celeron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11No way I'm letting the government invade my body.
  • 9tailfox, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Sure, if they can stream porn to it.
  • borchard76, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15No. This is a terrible idea, and is unlikely to lead to anything good.

    The probability of this getting abused is far too high, and the likelihood of it causing damage to a person is very high.

    No thanks.
  • davidkain, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I believe people with major health problems (such as diabetes) have a valid reason to use this technology. If it could save my life in a situation like that, yeah, I'd get the implant.

    The only other desirable use for this, in my opinion, is in the military as an alternative to dog tags.
  • lazyrussian, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10Whatever happened to letting humans be "human"?
    • kflasch, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7How does this make us not human?

      Is any species stagnant, genetically or otherwise? Is it "wrong" for a species to change?
    • Tabris, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1Deleted.
    • AcidBath, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12What about pace makers or all the other gadgetry we implant in ourselves to stay healthy and functioning? People have been putting microchips into their body for decades when they don't have a choice.
      But if it IS your choice everyone starts crying about the Mark of the Beast (tm)
    • myxyplik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@AcidBath

      This is totally in a different ballpark. Being implanted with this chip make you identifiable virtually permanently. I say virtually because you'd have to have it surgically removed, or worse, criminals will hack you to pieces to get at the chip's information. Not a pretty thought, is it?
    • AcidBath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ L2006
      But if by identifiable you mean you could be ID'd by the chip then we have the same problem with any biometric tools.... retinal scans, fingerprints, someday even on-the-fly DNA scanning.
      So far criminals hacking off the fingers of people to gain access to biometric protected systems has not shown to be an issue, so I don't see how this would be any different.
    • twiztedambience, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Maybe being human is meant to include technology since we have the brain capacity for it. Perhaps technology is our way of evolving in time rather than through genetic modifications to our bodies? An interesting thought...
    • halavais, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Mod down--it's all been said.
  • drinkGreen, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5 I would volunteer, if volunteers got paid very very well
    • johnroth, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5I was just thinking the same thing. If you're compesated handsomly for being thier test... then sign me up!
    • Tabris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Technically you can't be paid for undergoing tests....it can only be enough to compensate you for medication and *****. But hell, there are 100s of ways around that. Some people make their income volunteering for medical tests. :)

      Let me know when we get cybernetic visual enhancers or something in like one eye that let you switch between, say, different wavelengths of light. That would be sick beyond belief to be able to see RF waves and crap.
    • Misanthrope, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yes, exactly! If they gave me a large amount of cash, they could put all the ID numbers on me they want. I have nothing to hide, aside from financial data, which I would think wouldn't be tied to this.

      I would do it in a heartbeat for the right dollar amount.
    • buba447, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Robert Rodriguez funded his first feature film completely by putting himself through medical testing.
  • Nocturnal, on 10/12/2007, -15/+14No way. That's just insane. Mark of the beast if you ask me. NO WAY!
    • drinkGreen, on 10/12/2007, -16/+1the mark of the beast is the barcode. Always has.
    • AcidBath, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6Sorry folks, but the mark of the beast is 666. It is NOT being implanted with microchips.
      Although creepy it is only a matter of time before social acceptance of this.
      I'm sure Holland or someone will lead the path with mandatory inserts at birth. Then the US will follow 30 years later as usual.
    • dkleehammer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4666 is the beasts number, the Bible says that 666 is the number of the beasts name. Since technology is the highest platform that our civilization uses, I would expect it to be a microchip or something like it.
    • misteral, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@drinkGreen: "the mark of the beast is the barcode. Always has."

      I programmed software to create barcodes for several years, yours is a common misconception, as the guard bars are not "6's". Further, not all "barcodes" follow the same encoding as the one you're speaking of, the UPC.

      Check out snopes: http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/barcode.asp
  • milesd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11No.
  • neverender, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6my main concern is that the signal is not even encrypted.
    its a tiny radio signal broadcasting everything about you.
    • kflasch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5No. It's only as much information as is in the device. It need not include everything (or anything) about you.
    • jgjay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nothing is broadast, it has to be specifically requested by an interrogator.

      All an RFID tag does is store data and respond to commands from an interrogator. The data itself could be encrypted in some way, so even if an unauthorised interrogator was to read the data, it'd be useless without the required decryption information.
  • H1DC, on 10/12/2007, -14/+13The Mark of the Beast,... hmmmm, no thank you.
    • AModlin, on 10/12/2007, -17/+10How do you figure the chip is "the mark of the beast"? Nobody is making you get it, keep your foolish religious nuttery to yourself, please.
    • theballdredge, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12How do you figure the chip is "the mark of the beast"? Nobody is making you get it, keep your foolish religious nuttery to yourself, please.

      YET. nobody is making you get it YET.

      Im not getting one. ever. period. religious nuttery has nothing to do with it, its a privacy concern.
    • johnroth, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6You know what, when the world doesn't end up ending because God told you it would, you poeple are going to be pretty *****.
    • deboosher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10i agree. no thanks.
  • overbyte, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5i believe the words i am looking to find are SH*T NO
  • Pharaoh777, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4I'm sure I'll be implanted with a multitude of them. It's time this body had an upgrade.
    • DigiShaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1...an upgrade to slavery more like it
  • supernate, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5I don't think people understand that the RFID chip itself doesn't actually contain all this data about you. It's not like this tiny chip is full of tons of data -- rather the chip just contains an "id", not much different than your SSN, drivers license number, employee id, whatever. The contents of the RFID chip are useless unless it's paired with a system that can read the encoded id, and match it with the data that already exists.

    So, for the example of the guy with medical records -- the records are not stored inside this chip. The chip just provides instant lookup to those records, when a doctor or hospital is able to scan it.

    People really shouldn't freak out about this. It's probably way more secure than your SSN, which is already tied to tons of info about you that the government already knows about. Having an RFID chip doesn't make it any easier for you to be "tracked" by the government-- it actually makes it harder for a thief to steal your identity.

    I would get one if I could program it to unlock the door to my house, start my car, log me into my computer, and pass through airport security. That day is coming.
    • diggduggjoe, on 10/24/2007, -1/+6They will have the technology to read these things from afar. You will be tracked.
    • dubwai, on 10/24/2007, -0/+6"People really shouldn't freak out about this. It's probably way more secure than your SSN, which is already tied to tons of info about you that the government already knows about. Having an RFID chip doesn't make it any easier for you to be "tracked" by the government-- it actually makes it harder for a thief to steal your identity."

      Are you for real? I don't know where you live but I don't have to turn over my SSN everytime I buy some cheetos and sixpack. Or walk into a library. Or drive though a toll booth. Or walk on the sidewalk.

      Exactly how does having a radio signal that uniquely identifies you transmitted at all times from inside your body NOT make it easier to track you?
    • gwjc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Of course there are these new 4Meg ones:
      http://digg.com/tech_news/HP_Develops_New_Passive_RFID

    • fantasticjon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Even if you don't believe in the Bible, doesn't the prophesy seem a little creepy and accurate.

      Unfortunatly, these technologies will take hold. People though that maybe credit cards or bar codes were the mark of the beast and those technologies are widely used now. My guess is that this technology will be widespread in 30 years and paper money will disappear in 50 years.

      (sorry posted in the wrong spot.)
      Its too convenient for people not to adopt it and too powerful for the powers that be not to implement it . (just like bar codes and credit cards.)
    • FyreGoddess, on 10/24/2007, -0/+4The technology already exists to read RFID chips without you knowing. Frankly, the technology is prevalent that reads RFID chips with your knowledge, but I think that a vast majority of people don't realize the implications of it.

      With RFID chips being placed in driver's licenses, credit cards, keyless entry systems, etc., the capability to track individuals is already here... it should be nation-wide by the time you get your driver's license renewed next. If you think that the technology to track and hack isn't already being used by more than just the government, you're sorely misinformed. It's not nearly as widespread as it could easily become, but it's most definitely out there.

      I don't know how much more extreme the implants really are. If you carry a credit card or the keys to a newish car, you can be tracked. If you have an EZ Pass (for automatically paying tolls), then you are already *being* tracked as part of the traffic pattern analysis, not only on highways, but also in cities that have the readers installed on traffic lights.

      It's not the technology it self that's the threat, it's what's being done with the data that's collected, or at least the potential for what *can* be done. But make no mistake, that data is already being collected by a number of sources, not all of them harmless.
  • overbyte, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7also the digital angel chip was cloned within minutes of being shown -http://digg.com/security/Hackers_CLONE_Human_implanted_RFID_chip_in_Minutes_at_Conference

    that's like having a tat that you hate within 5 seconds of having it done
    • richter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I was in the third row watching this happen. The technology is basically the same as the implant chips you have for pets. It's a passive chip, it requires the power transmitted from the reader to function. It just gives you a 25 or so digit long number. Terribly unimpressive really.
  • overbyte, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1yeh it's not the mark of the beast because that's having his (antechrist's) number on your forehead or hand, not yours
    • dkleehammer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The anti-christ and the beast are not the same. Revelation 19:20 describes them as two different people (the beast and the false prophet, aka 'anti-christ').
  • thewaz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1no.

    wait.. am i supposed to answer this?
  • DarkLaughingMan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0That mark of the beast thing was mentioned in "ArchAngel Protocal" (awesome book).

    Anyway I wouldn't mind, provided if I could turn into the laughing man. :P

    But seeing as how not everyone would have this and I wouldn't be able to hack into their brains making them see a smily face..

    It has its valid uses..though with all great ideas its going be abused one day..
  • Thundercat1971, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Great, my RFID chip crashed and now I can't use my arm!
  • star, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6""It's always with me, always in my hands, and I'll never lose it," Krieger said."

    All it takes is a punk with an axe, knife or hacksaw etc. to prove Krieger wrong.
  • pcheaven2k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4First off let me point out that there is a big difference between an RFID chip and a Microchip. I know they are both microchips, but when I hear microchip I think of a small computer processor (as in it is attached to a computer) where as when I hear RFID (Radio Frequency Identification Device) I think BIG BROTHER KNOWING WHEN I JACK OFF.

    With that said, I definitely do not want an RFID implanted, however, a MicroChip connected to other computer peripherals or external jacks for hooking up external computer peripherals would definitely garner my attention.

    Imagine having a liquid cooled (by your blood) nano-scale MicroProcessor implanted in your arm, it is connected by a fiber optic wire (smaller than a human hair) to a 1 Terabyte NAND FLASH storage device in your upper arm and to a series of external USB ports (one in each hand and one behind each ear) so you can connect external devices like joysticks, VR Glasses, printers, etc. Using an external device you can update the operating system the computer runs, download saved files, etc. The computer is also connected to your Visual Cortex and has subdermal implanted speakers/microphones, thus allowing for recording of everything you see and hear (at your discretion). There could be a series of control buttons implanted in your forearm (near the wrist) that allow you to start/stop/rewind/fast forward/record audio/video when ever you want. When you connect VR goggles you could play games or watch movies and it would appear to be a couple hundred inch HD TV. Additionally you could have special glasses that connect to the USB ports behind your ears and assist your vision (for the blind) or provide Night Vision, X-Ray Vision or Zoom ability to the visual cortex.

    Something like that I would definitely sign up for, even on an experimental basis.
  • lagrange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'll take any posion pill as long as its sugar coated with a little gold old American fear or loathing.
  • DarthPoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Whether or not its the mark of the beast is up for debate. But I don't want to be identified by something I have to break the skin to get rid of. Cuz' i ain't evr gunna let thu guvmint 'n da debil' ***** me in'ta goin' ta hell. Ya'll is gunna burn Hey-ulllll!!!one! Or maybe I could have a warrant out for me.
  • ckasprzak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5F that noise, I don't want to be tracked like some wild animal!
  • Avius, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Why they don't implement some more brain in Bush's head and plug an rfid chip in his asshole, and chop his willy off?
  • chad78, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Having read nothing but the title, my answer is a resounding "YES!"
  • ronjohnson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You can't fix stupid, while the intentions may be noble like medical ID, someone will always find a way to use this against you. Not worth the risk.
  • EXreaction, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4All you freaks that think this is somehow related to religion...are just freaks!

    Religion is bad enough on it's own, but don't go around spreading it anymore, especially on a tech board. Technology = Intelligence, Religion = Blind belief in a false being(exact opposite of intelligence); usually because one is to afraid of reality to accept it.

    And for all you people talking about the "devils" number(666), think about it. HUMANS created numbers, and just because WE created it doesn't mean the universe will change it's ways to fit what we believe.

    Anyways, heck ya I would volunteer to be implanted...I would be first in line if I could(same goes for other prosthetics/cybernetics)!

    Anyone that wants to know where this kind of technology is headed only needs to watch Ghost in the Shell. Yes, most simpletons now(mostly religious people) will never accept something like this, but the truely intelligent ones know that the only way for mankind to move forward in our short lives is to do it ourselves, so we accept technology for that!
    • fohf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you are probably the same kind of person who doesn't care about individual freedoms, in case you haven't noticed, the government has been slowly eroding our freedom. Implants would be another step towards imprisonment. IMO.
    • ThroatPunch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You say that no one should spread religion on on a technology forum, but you preach about Atheism which believe it or not, is a religious view.

      "Religion is bad enough on it's own, but don't go around spreading it anymore, especially on a tech board. Technology = Intelligence, Religion = Blind belief in a false being(exact opposite of intelligence); usually because one is to afraid of reality to accept it."

      Your definition of religion is what bothers me, not because of my belief, but the use of the word "false". That is YOUR belief in religion, not the definition.

      Please don't be hypocritical as it is too common already.
    • p1mpjuice, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Athiesm is not a religion. People always talk as though there are only two sides, the infamous "You're with us or them" arguement when it comes to taking sides, as can be seen in how the religious zealots (not religious people, there is a difference), state it is the mark of the beast. This equates that they are following the anti-Christ. Athiesm would just be that you do not believe in either side of the religion's beliefs, both the "good" and the "bad."
    • ThroatPunch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ p1mpjuice

      I never said Atheism was a religion, just a view on religion. My point was that he was telling everyone not to talk about religion and then right after he states that, he tells us all his view on religion, which in the context of his comment, was just as bad.
  • Kained, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3People have had unique physical identity codes before.

    60 years later, they still carry the scares.
    • Novagenesis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Why is it every issue in the world is paralleled to Nazism at least once by its opponents?
    • Kained, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1At no point did i mention Nazism.

      I pointed out that unique identifiers were used to categorise and dehumanise a segment of society.

    • jasonuher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1specifics please. Which group and by who?

      Oh right... nazis, way to go on that one.
  • dubwai, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4Will people shutup about the mark of the beast? If there's anything more stupid that believing in the insane ravings of a member of a fringe cult written almost 2 thousand years ago, it's believing in it when you don't even know what it says.

    Seriously, believing in the apocalypse is like people in the year 4000 looking at the teachings of David Koresh for signs of the end of the world. I'm tired of this superstitious ***** being used to make decisions that affect the world.
  • dwight0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1!sad
  • shawnz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1author of second comment on that page is godwarrior to the max
  • Langford, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ignoring that it's icky and gross, couldn't there be technical problems? Suppose there separate similar chips made by different companies with different non-standard reading methods? Suppose a new feature appeared, and early adopters of the technology could not support the feature without an additional implant? Suppose incompatibilities between different systems forced multiple implants, and then the implants interfered with each others operation? People don't necessarily hang on to an expensive computer for much longer than a decade, but this thing is supposed to remain useful for life? It's most likely going to be a weird irritating lump that a person finds and pokes at in their old age, all the while remembering when it was almost useful.
  • L2006, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Why would I want the Government to track every move I make?
  • fohf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3HELL NO!
    no matter how new the technology or how 'safe' it would be or how they would never abuse it, fact is, someone will learn how to exploit it and it will have the capacity to be used against you
  • DarthTurducken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Only if I could be an Adrienne Barbeaubot!

    /Sealab
  • rideagain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hell no.
  • untzboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1God and Jesus, not to mention the Holy Spirit, can't help you from everything. Try praying when your hand have been cut off by a disgruntled jail bird!
  • JGailor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Reminds me of the articles I read about Brazillian gangs cutting off peoples hands to get biometric access to their mercedes.

    This guy was at the Maker Faire I believed. One of my cohorts suggested that he all someone would have to do is cut off the guys hand and could get access to his home without having to break in. The guy stuttered a bit and said he keeps a key on a chain around his neck that he can give someone who is trying to bio-mug him. I'm betting they're that still gonna take his hand anyway.
    • JohnboiWaltune, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Implant it in your abdomen, no way some petty crook is going to hack you open to get the RFID chip. If there is someone who hates you enough to hack you open, you have bigger problems than worrying about who wants your Mercedes or TV.

      BTW I'm not really being serious
  • Peumaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There certainly are privacy issues that need to be worked out, but I don't think this people should be so resistant to advances in this area. It's a tough problem, but somewhere down the road people might come up with solutions even the tinfoil hat wearing people would be alright with.

    For example, what if there were MEMS or some other mechanical trigger in a device that would allow you to make it unreadable whenever you wanted? That would make you untrackable unless you they got close enough to touch you.

    Also the new passports coming out with RFID in them will have similar problems. Thieves could detect that you have an RFID passport on you (without even trying to decode the message) and then target you because you're American or something. You could put the passport in a Faraday Cage type thing, but you couldn't do that to a chip inside you.
  • girls4geeks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I will have to say a big fat no while I cling tightly to my tinfoil hat :)
  • tinker123, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Another beautiful improvement to America delivered by the bush administration.

    Let us insert the chips into the dumb christian taliban and fat tax break suv driving hypocrites who elected the 4th reich
  • xsuite, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3MARK OF SATAN!!!!!
    • p1mpjuice, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Please just never post again.

      Some of us don't care about Satan and God.
  • tony23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's downright chilling how many people seem to have no problem with this.
  • hazmat007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What kind of encryption does RFID use? I think that the security risks are to high. It would only be a matter of time before someone found a way to hack them. Imagine walking around with a chip in you body that contains all of you information and it is transmitting constantly. I'm sure that somebody could come up with a device that could somehow record that signal and decode it or something. It just reeks of security issues. Oh and the Government is planning putting RFID chips in all new passports as well. I'm pretty sure that its going to happen pretty soon.
    • Genesis2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Voluntarily-implanted chips contain only the info you put into them; If you just store a userid, they are no more adngerous than leaving fingerprints on your cardoor.

      Similarly, gov't issued ones (passport) may contain only a userID, with the personal info being tied to an external database. --Admittedly, in their wisdom, the US gov't will likely put our SSN, birthdate, name, phone number, etc. all on there... *suck*
  • automagically, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If I could turn it off, and only use it where I want it to be used, and for reasons I agree with, then maybe. But the conspiracy theorist in me just doesn't see it being that simple though.
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