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- jbus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17News flash! A random defense contractor finds yet another way to rob us of our tax dollars. In other news, politicians stumble over each other to approve funding.
- macman81, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19Wanna hear a cynical joke? War on terror.
But seriously, this isn't good. A) There is little to no terror threat and B) It's just granting more social power to Big Brother.
P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A! - thetaco82, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12arkmtech, that reminds me of something that happened on September 11th. It was my senior year in high school, and the library had set up a huge projection screen with a live news feed playing on it. There was a very large group of students standing around the room, clearly not interested in going to class (no faculty complained, of course), and I heard one girl say, "[shaking her head] This never would have happened if Clinton was in office..."
Erm, excuse me, IT DID! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing
Was she actually stupid enough to think that an operation of that scale was researched, planeed, and exectuted in less than a year?
arkmtech, do you really think that the United States' Middle East policy has only been unpopular for the last six years? Wake up. Read a history book. - dougmc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Making an effective faraday cage of any size at microwave frequencies is very difficult. A hole even a few mm in size would be enough to let a signal in strong enough for a cell phone to work.
Well, making a faraday cage would be easy. But to make it in the hold of an airplane, where stuff is put in there all the time, and the plane shifts and flexes and such in flight? Not so easy.
And of course, for every terrorist device this device finds, it will find 1000 harmless cell phones, and every single one will probably need to be searched for as if it were a bomb (because it just might be.) It just doesn't sound practical ...
... or effective. If I were a terrorist, and I knew that powered cell phones were detected in the luggage (and they probably know now), I'd just use a standard radio receiver to detonate my bomb -- no signal to detect. Or a timer. Or a one-way pager. Or an air pressure sensor -- detonate when the altitude-pressure reaches 4000 feet. Yes, this might close a hole in the dam -- but the dam is still crumbling around it. - fufubag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Drood,
In Iraq retard.
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050307-121323-4533r.htm
There's just one citation, I don't have time to google things like this for you. - fufubag, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7ifrkr is right.
You will have to come up with something besides "Bush sucks". You realize that Congress voted to go to war right? They had access to much of the same intel as Bush did. But they are even worse. Why? They turn tail like cowards when things start to look bad. Why didn't they speak out against this war from the beginning if they were against it? Anyone? Because their lives revolve around guessing which way the wind is blowing, just like you morons who aren't smart enough to come up with anything besides "Bush sucks". - acceptab1euname, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@thetaco82: Thank you.
- fsjonsey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I think the intended idea is to help detect IED's in Iraq. Install a mesh network of these along roads, and is one cell phone remains stationary for too long, it could be checked out to make sure its not a bomb. And to all those who dont know how cell phones are used as detonators, look at this link
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=14925&only - cheekybastard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5What if they use a pager instead of a cell phone? Lame. Stick to keeping snakes and explosives off airplanes.
- grozny, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8From technical point of view - lamest thing I've read for awhile.
Waste of my money. Can I get my taxes back, pls?
How's that for 'countermeasure' to this 'brilliant' hi-tech waste of money: turn mobile on (by isolating battery contacts with simple timed relay for example) until 'The Call'. And all that stupid tracking is useless.
Oh, wait, it could be used for smth else, not *just* for terrorist tracking.... - 23MAL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Would this be another reason that Call Center's in India keep getting cut off while asking annoying questions?
- solarpowered, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Terror is a tactic. "War on a tactic"? Make zero sense, as much as "War on Smart Bombs".
Don't fall for the "War on terror" label. If you do, you've bought in to some of the propaganda.
It's "War against Radical Islam", let's call it what it is, people. - williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Granat
How did we get through the '70s, '80s, and '90s without a "PATRIOT" Act and illegal domestic surveillance. From the '40s to the '90s we faced an enemy with confirmed industrial quantities of VX, and the demonstrated capability to build 100 MEGATON hydrogen bombs (it was de-tuned to "only" 50 megatons for testing). And, in the face of that, we somehow managed to not use the Constitution as asswipe. - Drood, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"Cell phones have become a key way for terrorists to detonate bombs remotely."
I'm waiting for someone to tell me exactly WHERE these terrorists are doing this...
Come on folks. If you're going to post scaremongering ***** like this, BACK IT UP! Show us several cases. If it's a "key way" it shouldn't be that hard. - arkmtech, on 10/12/2007, -25/+27I have a solution too: Oust Bush from office!
- amalagaura, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You fool, don't you know that if we hadn't elected Bush we would have been all blown up by turbaned suicide bombers who were conveniently let in to the country by Democrats?
- GhostFreeman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Great! Someone managed to hack the CDMA and GSM standard to where the interception of data is now easily doable! I bet they'll make a whole standard around this!
- tenken, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@Granat: Right, I'm sure it's all the liberals fault that we're stuck in an endless war which was created *just to prove a point.* Normally I don't feed political snarkiness, but good god man that is the one thing you really shouldn't blame liberals for when cowboys are doing much of it--
- wtdoor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hmmm; don't go all paranoid on us now ... This technology may possibly be two days older than sliced bread. Two companies -- Grayson Wireless (now Andrew Corp.) and True Position -- have been doing this for "E-911" geolocation since 2000-2001. While I don't know all the details of the algorithms being used, there are only so many twists to the general TDOA/FDOA solution. Not to mention that the claimed accuracy of 10 feet raises the 'BS' flag a bit given the nasty environment our cell phones operate in, particularly in an urban environment.
- williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ummm, digital mobile telephony IS data. Your phone turns it into analog audio.
- dougmc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Oh, I can answer my own question --
`The technology was originally developed to pinpoint breaches in a wireless computer network and to keep out hackers.'
It's not really Wi-Fi helping. It's a technique useful for finding any sort of RF emission, including Wi-Fi, that was previously productized and sold for the purposes of locating `rogue' access points. - Pic0, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6So they will catch the cell phone bombs at the xrays? shouldnt they already be able to do this?
- Doughboy, on 10/12/2007, -10/+11I wonder if, shortly after arming the cell-phone activated bomb, a terrorist as ever been accidentally been blown up by a telemarketer calling the phone?
- Squidly, on 10/12/2007, -9/+10Looks like a great use of technology. I hope it saves some lives.
- dougmc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4What does this have to do with Wi-fi again?
The article mentions Wi-Fi in the title, and nowhere else. And I don't see how Wi-Fi could really be usefully worked into this anyways.
Did the author need a little help to reach his buzzword quota? - acceptab1euname, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Do tell me more of this relaying through voip for free calls.
- acceptab1euname, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3thanks for posting something intelligent
- mason25, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3There's a war on terror?
- Drood, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2fufu: Wow, insults. You're so clever. Your ,mom must be so proud.
There's a war in Iraq. That hardly counts as "terrorism" numbnuts. - Granat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+69/11 and all of these attacks never happened: http://www.armscontrolcenter.org/terrorism/101/timeline.html
- Granat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5This shows you how sick the liberals are in this country; they would rather see people die just to prove that they are right. Disgusting.
- bass0, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3There is no such thing as "war on terror". What we are witnessing from the US government is actually "terror" itself.
- DukeVonMan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4this sounds almost as bad as battlefield earth was with the movie critics...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0amalagaura = Example of human-sheep-being.
- ghostwave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1How the Feds discovered this: the cell phone was pointed at a Wiley Coyote dynamite plunger. Nothing gets by these guys.
- billmania, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6I, for one, think we should bring the troops home immediatly!!! I just can't handle all this victory.
- i5aac, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Bradley Rotter, technology investor: "Our enemies are using our technology against us as a weapon against us."
Really? Wait, wait. Against who again? - TH3W1R3D, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3The government wants to make it appear as if there are millions of terrorists just waiting to blow the hell out of themselves. There aren't that god damn many of them.
- kneeare, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2war on terror
terror on war
terror on terror
war on war
what the ***** is the difference? - lrsuranger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1This won’t save anyone’s life in Iraq.
Now if this device could find a cell phone "link" from point A to a point B, with a 1k radius, and vice versa then we have something here.
Good concept though. - randal2k, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4this tech looks like another freedom bouncer and therefore i call BOGUS.
If i wish to leave my phone on then that is my right as a owner of the phone. Maybe i use it to relay through my voip for free calls? Whatever... this is another spit on freedom.
soon, this technology can also be sued to pin point and track anyone, for reason of security, then hacked for reasons of stalking.. please just take the tech and forget it was ever created. - pbtpu40, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Why not just line the inside of an aircraft, as well as the baggage handling areas as you would a Faraday cage. No cell reception anymore, now you can not detonate it. Why over complicate something. Oh this way you could also track where we are... I see.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Wi-Fi to fight War on Terror. Whats next? Install a "Norton Anti - War On Terror" for your PC. WTF, this is getting redicoules.
- Drood, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3From the article.
"Cell phones are everywhere, keeping people connected. But they're also being used by terrorists to trigger bombs."
Translation: "YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE! REMAIN SCARED AMERICA! WE NEED YOU COMPLIANT."
This isn't journalism. It's the rantings of a deranged ten year old who has seen too many movies/GWB press conferences. - vguard, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1 "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." — George W. Bush Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
“George Bush, what will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra? ‘Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us.'”
—From a June, 1992 exclusive and published interview granted by President George H. W. Bush to Sarah McClendon, the grand dame of the White House press corps at the time. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -20/+10i hate bush same as any other sane person, but can we please stop with the senseless bashing? its like you're yelling out "give me some attention please!"
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