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- code_of_life, on 10/12/2007, -1/+78in short (from page 3) "The mythical Honda override exists: It’s a series of presses and pulls of the emergency brake. Each car, it seems, has a unique override code, which correlates to the VIN."
"Then I grabbed the emergency brake handle between the front seats and performed the specific series of pumps, interspersed with rotations of the ignition between the On and Start positions. After my second attempt, Honky’s hybrid engine awoke with its customary whisper." - gamabunta, on 10/12/2007, -2/+60@ JasonHilton
It's also another reason for the insurance company to deny paying up. - xgravix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+51There is no way to perfectly secure a device that people other than yourself interact with. This includes computers, cars, refrigerators, pretty much anything you can think of. If somebody else is able to access it, it can be destroyed, hacked, driven away, whatever, regardless of the "security" you have installed.
You can deter, but you cannot completely protect. - ilikedginger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+49You mean obnoxiously loud car alarms weren't the end of car thieves? I'm so behind the times.
- thesparrowband, on 10/22/2007, -5/+51you can protect with a chair, alot of coffie, and a shotgun
- DigitalWorld, on 10/12/2007, -12/+57Umm, this isn't Slashdot folks.....
- Eeqmcsq, on 10/12/2007, -2/+46"I had just jacked my own car."
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+45not true.
My sprint phone is crime deterrent! - inactive, on 10/22/2007, -3/+44"My sprint phone is crime deterrent!"
Ever dealt with Sprint's customer service? That's criminal activity right there! - Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+41You guys are giving the insurance companies too much credit. They know the cars are stealable, they're just happy to use any excuse not to pay.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -7/+46Security courtesy of Diebold.
- barc0001, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39The thieves already know. But telling the world how it's done just might put pressure on those ***** insurance companies to honor their policies. Keep quiet about it, nothing happens, create a public ***** and they can't ignore it any more. Remember the Kryptonite locks with the Bic pen? Kryptonite did nothing until it got tons of publicity.
- Darmichar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+36When will the makers of anything understand one simple thing.
If a human designed it, there is an equally skilled human that can 'un-design' it.
Nothing is sacred and nothing is 'safe'. - bean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31You might also feel ripped off by your theft insurance rates considering your claim is likely to be denied because your car is 'unstealable'.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32Nothing beats Trunk Monkey for auto theft prevention.
http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Workshop/TrunkMonkey4.wmv - afaik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30Yes this does work, to start my car you press up up down down left right left right Accelerator Brake Accelerator Brake start.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32Guess what? A sequence of keypresses can also give you root access of any OS. Oh no! Now every joe-six can hack every computer system!
Oh, wait...I guess you actually need to know what the sequence is. Whew! - LeggNet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Yes, very well written and worth the time to read it.
- bieber, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29Nasty newspeople, spreading dirty knowledge. No one should be allowed to tell people things like that, of course. I mean, just imagine if what might happen if people just went around teaching other people whatever they pleased!
- rakslice, on 10/12/2007, -16/+41Perhaps. But competent insurers are in a position to figure out what that risk is, and they've done that -- and they know it's non-zero, no matter what they tell you; don't fool yourself.
As much as I'd like insurance company shenanigans to be news, there's really no need to mince words here: IF YOU OWN A CAR WITH AN IGNITION KEY TRANSPONDER SYSTEM, AND YOU HAVE AUTO THEFT INSURANCE FROM A COMPANY KNOWN TO HAVE DENIED CLAIMS ON THE BASIS THAT A VEHICLE HAS AN IGNITION KEY TRANSPONDER SYSTEM, CANCEL YOUR POLICY AND TAKE YOUR BUSINESS ELSEWHERE!
It's that simple; there's no point in paying for a policy that has no value to you. - misterjangles, on 10/12/2007, -17/+40@Madh2orat Can't you at least save the M$ rants for a Linux thread or something?
- kent1146, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Pshaw. Everybody knows that the easiest way to steal a car is to just walk up to it, and press the triangle button. Grand Theft Auto teaches you all you need to know about life.
- thesparrowband, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23very very well written article
- rakslice, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24@bndocksnt
And for that I apologize. I was just hoping to help some people out of trouble down the road, if it's any consolation. - mikedpirone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19The parts from a Honda bring in good money because there are so many of them on the road. Ever heard of chop-shops? Most car theifs (in my area at least) steal cars for chop-shops who then pay them for the car, strip all usable parts from it, and sell the parts to body shops or repair shops. Why do you think the Toyota Corolla was, for a while, the most stolen car. Because there are many of them on the road and the more on the road, the more that are going to need repairs, the more money chop-shops can make.
- DigitalWorld, on 10/12/2007, -8/+26Hellllloooooooooooo, I'm a caaaaaaaaaaarrrr... gasoline makes me run, back seat! Trunk space! Helllloooooo, let's go for a riiiiddeee, oil is my blood! Seat belts! Radio knobs! ...
- DaveRocks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18I just read this issue of Wired at work today (shows how much "work" i really do) and it was a very interesting read. Insurance companies really are oblivious to the fact that people are smarter than the car companies.
- Ebeniz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14because your title sux
- borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17"I had just jacked my own car."
If you know how, why not? - BlindIrishman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14How about a Ford Pinto with a dented rear bumper?
- Ibox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Just buy an 80's model Chevette, I promise no one will steal it, and if they do, your out what?, 100 bucks. and they get decent gas mileage
- Mynnx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15You forgot to close a tag, man. I'll do it for you:
</shameless_plug> - Darmichar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Could you please post a picture of the coil wire on an HEI system.
You know, the system 99% of gas powered vehicles have used for the last 20 or so years. - SirFistalot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I own a car that isn't worth stealing. I think that's a great anti-theft method.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I am going to say the insuance companies are stealing the cars and then not paying up for it. hence making a cool profit.
- adamchristopher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Seriously, the 91-93 bodystyle are the worst. I have had mine broken into three times, and an ex girlfriends about four times. Its a joke.
It is nice, however, to be able to just bend my winow open when I lock my keys in the door. - blackmath, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16My car got stolen about two years ago. An early 90s honda accord. They are SO EASY to break into. The local news station even had a segment on how to do it one time! It was found the next day but all ***** up.
- lolwtfhaha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"Thank you for telling thieves how to bypass anti theft devices."
Idiot-- the THIEVES are also the ones that have access to the VIN database: The Employees of Honda. They already know about it, The only people that didn't know are US, and now we can do something about it-- add a Club, car alarm, pull the ignition coil wire, add a better security system, etc, . This is the same argument against software security disclosures. - Poco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Why do you care which story is more popular? Are you that insecure?
Wasn't the point of submitting the story to get everyone to read it? Is that not the final outcome? - ptrcd003, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8So true..also make sure the cop is outside the car before you decide to jack it.
- sapo916, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10No need for Car rentals, just steal a cheap asian car when you need a ride.
- sapo916, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Yeah, insurance companies will use any excuse not to pay up. They call you a criminal when in fact they are they criminals, gotta love them.
- signal15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Insurace companies are bastards and will ***** you any which way they can. I turned in my roof twice for major hail damage and was denied both times. It was very obvious it was damaged from hail, and all of my neighbors got their replaced. The adjust said it was from people walking on it too much.
Finally, the third time, after a tornado came through I got it replaced. But it was only because my insurance company hired 3rd party adjusters because all of theirs were out of town doing work for Katrina. The adjuster told me that those guys work on a "reverse" commission and get paid on how many claims they deny. - silentdud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9This is a very well written article and its interesting. I am actually reading it closely.
- punkrockxtian, on 10/12/2007, -27/+34@ Madh2orat
I HATE people like you. Whenever there's a chance to (or even when there isn't) they always bring up the ongoing war between Windows and Linux. That comment had nothing to do with the article in anyway. If you want to bark about your opinions, that's what forums are for. People like you make me shake my head and gladly click the bury button. - Ibox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6http://www.thepartsbin.com/sitemap/honda~ignition_wire_harness~parts.html
- spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7To be fair, the Corolla was also known to be a very easy car to steal.
- robbeh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"... you find interesting articles in about _half_ of the issues!"
Sounds like a reason to unsubscribe (and read it online). - sshack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Glad I drive a 60's era MG. Too much technology in these new cars, I don't like it one bit.
BTW: My security system is a battery disconnect with removable key. No many theives
keep those with me.
Also , the new aston martin has a similar thing. A "secret" battery disconnect button in the boot. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6VW/Audi have an "Immobilizer" system, VW is at version #4 now. I'm what one might consider an expert on the systems. With about a $650 investment (plus a laptop), I could drive off with a VW R32. The hardest part, to be truthful, would be getting around the steering wheel lock because VWs use a different lock pin system. If you try to force a locked steering wheel, a collar will slip, but nothing will break, so in the end, the steering wheel is still locked. But once you get past that, I can "hotwire" a VW in 1 minute without issue, fire up the engine and drive off.
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