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- humanerror, on 05/21/2008, -12/+141Get on the ball, UK. We've had this in America for years.
- JDenigma, on 05/21/2008, -9/+122It looks like the Brits now need to have "V" rise out of the ashes. We could also use some of that V spirit here in the states.
- BigManOnCampus, on 05/21/2008, -5/+88Obligatory:
Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot... - angusm, on 05/21/2008, -1/+74It's stuff like this that makes me wonder about representative democracy. You can be sure that no one in Britain phoned up their MP and said "I'm really worried about crime and terrorism. Could you please start recording all our phone calls and logging everything we do on the Internet? And sprinkle about a gazillion surveillance cameras over every built-up area with a population of more than 100. I realize that it'll cost a lot, but perhaps you could use the money you were planning to spend on schools and hospitals. Lord knows, we don't have any use for them. Oh, and please be sure that you log every single web page ever visited by anyone - that'll make me feel so much safer. kthxbai."
When a government does something like this, it's not about what we want, it's about what they want. And once the wheels are in motion, it's an uphill struggle to organize enough people to lobby enough of their representatives to get them to vote against the proposal (and against the wishes of whichever of their campaign donors has a vested interest in selling the technology to the government). In the case of any US administration, they'll probably go ahead and do it anyway.
When did democracy become a constant battle to opt-out of whatever insane violation of our basic rights our so-called representatives have decided we need this week? And why do we stand for it? - QGYH2, on 05/21/2008, -1/+70I'm sure Google can help with the logistics..
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- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -2/+43Considering the British governments past record with losing data, I can't see this ever happening and, to be honest, the ISP's and human rights lawyers will put up such a fight that it won't be worth it.
We've put up with a lot of surveillance ***** in the UK over the last ten years, but this is just a little too Orwellian for it to be considered properly.
Never say never though - kevdotbadger, on 05/21/2008, -1/+40Awesome! I hope they fall for my meatspin trick links i post to all my friends via email.
- Shogi, on 05/21/2008, -4/+40I believe he goes by "Anonymous" these days.
- wynja, on 05/21/2008, -2/+38Because Britain is not to be outdone by Communist China for surveillance on it's citizenry.
- nemock, on 05/21/2008, -2/+36I thought this was called "echelon" and it was deployed decades ago...
- chrissku, on 05/21/2008, -1/+26I thought the govt. was supposed to work for the people, not against?
- shiny100, on 05/21/2008, -2/+251984 aint a ***** instruction booklet!
- Dumbledorito, on 05/21/2008, -1/+22There could be an up side to this. If the NSA, while spying on me, could tell me where I put stuff I've misplaced, it wouldn't seem so bad. Similarly, if the government would filter all the stock and medication spam I get and hang up on the unsolicted sales/charity calls that annoy me, I might tolerate them reading the e-mails I get forwarded by ancient relatives.
(for those who think I'm serious, please envision a flashing "SARCASM" sign above this post) - PhonicUK, on 05/21/2008, -1/+19That settles it, I'm moving to Iceland.
- drewpost, on 05/21/2008, -1/+18Funny thing - I was over by Orwell's house in Notting Hill the other day and I saw no less than 8 CCTV cameras within view of his front door. Thought that was rather ironic
- jcannonb, on 05/21/2008, -0/+16For your computer lets do TrueCrypt and use a OTR chat program like Adium for Mac, or Pidgin for Linux/Windows. Keep your stuff to yourself. Do everything encrypted.
- Carl306, on 05/21/2008, -2/+18Just make it a point to say something along the lines of "terrorist," "bomb," "GW is a dumbass" at the end of every phone call or email you communicate through.
For that matter: terrorist, bomb, GW is a dumbass. - Double-Z, on 05/21/2008, -0/+15Welcome to Labour's new vision. Tax the people, spy on the people, limit the freedoms of the people.
- hiPpymIck, on 05/21/2008, -3/+18im worried UK & US will both just end up with the worst of each others security worlds
eg
youll import more of the idea of cctv surveillance
UK'll import more of the idea of internet snooping
i think those national security types are just egging each other on and - as theyve been flavor of the month since 9/11 - theyre actually getting whatever they ask for.. no matter how stupid or excessive the idea - 7952, on 05/21/2008, -0/+14Oh but they do. You just have to be one of the right people.
- drkeclpse, on 05/21/2008, -3/+17It's the fact the information is stored anywhere at all that's the problem, not who technically should have access to it and under what conditions blah blah blah. If you honestly believe a government willing to monitor their citizens in this way will abide by its own rules and not simply go into such a database for ***** and giggles, you're sadly mistaken. It's sad to say but I imagine that there won't be the big uproar there should be over this, and I don't imagine the U.S. is too far behind.
- SilverBlade2k, on 05/21/2008, -1/+14Tracking and monitoring EVERYTHING removes our freedom of privacy. It is only *my* business of who I call, what site I go to, and what is in my e-mails. No one else's
1984, anyone? - wellyuk, on 05/21/2008, -1/+13Have left already.
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -1/+13I respect what Anonymous is doing, but imagine if instead of focusing on Scientology they focused on our corrupt government.
- blackjack75, on 05/21/2008, -0/+12I don't see how being invaded by alien lizards is going to help.
- aflaks, on 05/21/2008, -1/+12Big Brother Is Watching.
- eigenweasel, on 05/21/2008, -1/+12The last honest man to enter the Houses of Parliament.
- widdershins, on 05/21/2008, -2/+13If this happens, I'm leaving the UK. Seriously.
- cambob76, on 05/21/2008, -3/+13If you never do anything 'wrong', you don't have to worry!!! MWAH HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
- CharlesDance, on 05/21/2008, -0/+10I don't mind CCTV, all it can see and hear is anything anybody could, it doesn't violate any privacy rights and hasn't tried to infiltrate my life or change my political affiliations in any way and has came to the aid of friends more than a few times. What people don't mention when they bring up stats on CCTV is that the majority are put up by private business owners to stop people stealing kebabs.
As far as internet monitoring goes, i tell people i watch horse porn anyway. - GeekyGerge, on 05/21/2008, -0/+10I can never see that taking off.
C4, Balaclava, Infidels. - Disregard, on 05/21/2008, -1/+11It's reassuring to know that our government is too utterly inept to pull off it's worst 1984 fantasies.
- UltX, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9Something, something, something...darkside...
- ZaZ2137, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9Me neither, also:
Dirty bomb, USA, democracy, infidels, assassinate bush, anthrax - EuphoricAgony, on 05/21/2008, -2/+11Too slow. Only encrypt what needs to be encrypted. The government wants to look at my e-mails about Midget sex and string theory, let them.
- AgentVladimir, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9Yeah but we have special electronic counter-measures called H.O.O.D.S.
- Feralvision, on 05/21/2008, -1/+10England prevails
- decadence, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9Step 1: Filter out all emails containing the word 'enlargement'
- drmangrum, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9Good luck with that. There is so much data floating around, by the time it actually gets analyzed it's out of date. Trying to create a catchall system is a fruitless endeavor.
- Computer_Kid, on 05/21/2008, -1/+9How are they possibly going to store and sift through Terabytes of data each day?
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8There's a good time?
- roho76, on 05/21/2008, -2/+10I actually had respect for the UK at one point. I just don't understand how you guys put up with this *****.
I was talking to this guy at work today and he actually gave me the "well as long as your not doing anything wrong you don't have anything to be worried about." pitch. Where does this logic come from I just don't understand. I told him that he will see it diferently once they mistake him for a terrorist, and they are so certain that they got the right guy they torture him. He replied that that would never happen. I just looked at him and snickered.
I thought about giving leads to the DHS about people who think it is OK for this stuff to happen. Maybe it will change their minds because they obviously can not think rationally enough to make an educated decision about the effects this could have on us as a society. - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8The cameras may monitor me, but they don't gather any of my personal data
- richnojutsu, on 05/21/2008, -1/+9I read an article last night about "Police State 2.0" in China. The tech the Chinese are using (high res cameras disguised as street lamps, facial recognition software, etc) all come from US and European contractors in the "security" industries. It doesn't surprise me that it's trickling down into the governments of the West now, it was only a matter of time.
- nikomo, on 05/21/2008, -1/+8They'll run out of storage space for the 1TB harddrives in a week.
- wellyuk, on 05/22/2008, -0/+8Paranoid? Daily Mail? You really don't know me. It's because of the Daily Hate and it's nasty fascist readers that I've left the UK. The continued invasion of privacy and lackadaisical attitude by many UK residents on issues like this.. not just this but as a whole, are just a few reasons to stop me from changing my mind and coming back to the UK.
I was just getting fed up of living in a country full of people who are content bending over and taking whatever the government and corporations give them. I'm considering writing to the advertising standards authority and telling them that "Great" in Great Britain is most definitely false advertising. - JohnP, on 05/21/2008, -0/+7LOL, you wont get anywhere with facts mate. Substitute hyperbole with fact and this article wouldnt have gone past 10 diggs.
Its a stupid idea in my eyes, why use taxpayers money to do the job of the telecommunications companies? They should (and are) be obligated to keep records on hand. Im more than sure this is the fatal flaw that will kill this idea within months. -
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