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- Shakermaker, on 12/10/2007, -0/+35He probably just wanted to play Chess....or Global Thermonuclear War.
- purag66, on 05/13/2009, -2/+24what else is new
- fulibs, on 12/10/2007, -1/+20I used those chinese trojans once, they are really small.
- mcflynnthm, on 12/10/2007, -0/+17The only winning move is not to play.
- KewlerKid3, on 12/10/2007, -4/+21Serious. It's plausible that this happens on a daily basis. This is like saying the US government funds terrorists.
You don't wanna believe it, but its damn well true. - Corey1982, on 12/10/2007, -6/+21Good to know that we have such excellent security experts working for our government.
- kent1146, on 12/10/2007, -0/+14Leave any computer system crammed with valuable information up and runnign long enough, and it will be compromised. The only thing security can do is to make it so difficult to get in that it deters most people from trying.
- inactive, on 12/10/2007, -2/+12The plot of Live Free or Die Hard is not news.
- doctorfungi, on 12/10/2007, -3/+13I seriously doubt that any highly sensitive information would be kept on computers connected to the internet. The hackers probably only managed to access employee records or something.
- directive0, on 12/10/2007, -2/+12ugh... here we go...
- dombi, on 12/10/2007, -0/+9I am almost 100% sure that this happened because Jack is in prison for a DUI. CTU probably could not stop the attackers. Not even in 24 hours. Crap! They need to ask for Chloe's help.
- exinco, on 12/10/2007, -0/+8which hacker? black or white hacker
- inactive, on 12/10/2007, -3/+10The government are incompetent at cyber security and the government doesn't fund departments with enough money to defend against these kind of attacks.
- banzai26, on 12/10/2007, -2/+9There are some really good security people working for the government - the problem is the management are a bunch of crony hacks that don't listen to them....
- williamdyer, on 12/10/2007, -1/+7Depending on who it is, you could be very very wrong. The level of security in government operations is highly variable.
- Ninnux, on 12/10/2007, -1/+6So the hackers gained access to the visitors list at ORNL, which I would assume is stored on some BS server outside of their intranet. And?
- blast_flame, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5So...
...do they have energy shields? :P - williamdyer, on 12/10/2007, -1/+6The sad thing is, you can't even get a blowjob by a hot Russian hooker for revealing state secrets anymore. They'll just spearphish you with a free subscription offer to the AIPAC newsletter or something. At least the Democrats would demand sex. Except for Larry Craig. Ewww.
- valkyries, on 12/10/2007, -1/+6kinda old news, but important.
- Hattrick, on 12/10/2007, -3/+8For those of you who don't realize that there is a cyber-war occurring every single minute of every day, wake up. China and other nation-states are actively attacking US labs and defense contractors as we read this post. We have been lucky that only small pockets of personal info has been gleaned so far but it may not be the case tomorrow. Encryption, Avionics, propulsion, nano devices, advanced weapon systems, etc. They want what US tax dollars are being used to develop. Blame whoever you want, it doesn't change the fact that this has been going on for years and will continue as long as important sites use the Internet.
- inactive, on 12/10/2007, -1/+6This happens all the time. In germany they had chinese trojans on government notebooks and servers.
- sjbdallas, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3All the security in the world won't help when you have some moron opening attachments, plugging in their ipod, bringing in crap from the outside they know they shouldn't etc.
- rrife, on 12/10/2007, -1/+4I currently work at ORNL and I've done work LANL, I would consider neither of them "military research facilities".....both do work with nuclear materials used for the military, but overall the amount of work for military use is pretty minimal.
- josephhallett, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Well given that it wasn't themselves trying to hack themselves, not white hat. From reading the article it seems they found out about it, and knew what was copied.
Most probably grey hat, if it wasn't anything more than some kiddie with a script. - DemonWasp, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Yes, well, the problem is that users aren't omniscient. There are a lot of legitimate uses for the power that users have, but they also can leave the system open to attack. So, when an attack fools users, it can gain the access that their account has. Fortunately for this group, they were being smart, and the compromised users did not have access to the more sensitive data, so nothing critical was lost.
The only truly secure system is one you've cleverly replaced with a tasteful flowerpot. - m4csrgh3yk3v, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Plane hitting the pentagon did it for me.
- stizz, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3do a google search. Look for .doc or .xls filles. Use the keyword "Classified", now narrow your search to .mil and .gov tld's. Still think they don't keep sensitive stuff on computers hooked to the internet?
- Thedarklord187, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2no he's just the byproduct a stupid fish monkey having butt sex with another stupid fish monkey and theyre created by the spagetti monster
- inactive, on 12/11/2007, -0/+2China just built a new fighter jet. It's called the Type-22 Paptor.
- gnick, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Actually LLNL and SNL have similar records with regards to leaks, infiltration, incompetent security, etc. LANL just has the worst PR. When there's a breach at Sandia or Livermore and the press asks about it, the response is: "There's an internal, classified investigation into this incident and we can't comment further." LANL shoots itself in the foot by detailing everything they know about the incident and making the story interesting enough to print.
The reason that congress is criticizing them so strongly over the security problems is that the other weapons labs are smart enough to cover up their dirty laundry. - gnick, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Umm... LANL is one of the 3 main United States weapons labs. Supporting the weapons complex is why they're here. Would you consider the Manhattan Project non-military?
- ubergeek09, on 12/11/2007, -0/+2This isn't a surprise. Hackers always have been smarter than the people in the government that are in charge of computer security.
- thecatcantalk, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2That's funny, my old roommate's dad worked at LANL, designing tactical delivery systems for nuclear weapons, for thirty years. I guess designing rockets to vaporize foreign capitals has "minimal" strategic significance. Although it's worth noting that the "security experts" at LANL were the guys who let the Rosensteins give our nuclear secrets to the Russians, and whom have never, ever demonstrated any competence at protecting their facility against foreign or domestic spies. Which is why LANL nearly lost its privileges, repeatedly; LANL's been infiltrated by spies again and again...while its data security teams have been guilty of gross dereliction of duty, for decades. Being staffed by New Mexicans is no excuse for such incompetence.
- simpleid, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2right... e-mail filters, why didn't we all think of that. you must be pro.
- simpleid, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2actually the gov't has great security experts, no one alive is capable of protecting a machine 100%, and as above mentioned, management usually isn't that great. gov't know how to find talent, they don't know how to manage it.
- MrViklund, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Why do they even connect these things to the Internet?
- digitalhair, on 12/10/2007, -3/+4unacceptable.
- inactive, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1dugg up. But, are you so sure that is all that has been taken so far? If the returns were so low, would they continue on, now for so many years?
- cybrguy, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Shhhhhhhh, were supposed to pretend that there is nothing of value there. This way teh spies won't notice. As a side note, PNNL > LANL :P
- ByteGuerilla, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Or Global Thermonuclear Chess =/
- Atomic1fire, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1thats why the government should start thinking like hackers
start cracking other governments for practice and figure out how they do it - look4alec, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Might a true infiltration be undetected and/or unacknowledged to the public? All I see in this article is the mention of China without one bit of evidence linking it to the attacks that the article is reporting.
- SuperGreen420, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Unclassified data? Screw that. I want me some classified stuff. Are there aliens or what?
- blakeage, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Why is it so easy to "plant" a program on a user's system from an email? Every story is the same..."the hacker accessed the user's computers when a user clicked a link in an email". It's always the same story...the computing world is too damn vulnerable. /rant
- superharmonic, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Data or it didn't happen. :|
- gnick, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1No, they didn't - This was a yellow-net breach. This was just some of the same sensitive information that could just as easily been stolen from a commercial institution.
- Ducksa, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1If all they stole was personal information and SSNs, why go for such a high-profile, "well prepared" target? You'd think they would go for the DMV or something.
- Thedarklord187, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1your mom's unacceptable....in bed oooo feel that burn
- Thedarklord187, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1your a dumbass hackers dont need emails to infiltrate systems thats dumbass scriptkiddies who use email and p2p networks hackers on this level are the few true hackers that still exsist they were born from the Dos programming era
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