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- scottc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18The submitter picked a poor source for a good story. Read it here instead: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/07/fbi-patriot-act.html
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+17http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/07/fbi-patriot-act.html
- hambend, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14No. Now stop being unamerican.
- jeremyduffy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12You're premature. The title isn't worded well, but FBI did issue thousands of bogus National Security Letters which are supposed to only be used for emergencies. Because of several procedural violations, several people in the FBI could be facing criminal charges. Alberto Gonzales is also catching heat for saying to congress that there had been no abuses of the Patriot Act when in fact he had a report of FBI abuses sitting on his desk several days before appearing.
http://www.jeremyduffy.com/?s=fbi - jellygraph, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14How ironic that its the FBI's job to break the law...
the future we all feared has come to fruition... a dystopian future, with a secretive, totalitarian government and mindless droid sheep in the public bleeting "how dare you question the government? its their job to prevent another terrorist attack."
it just gets worse and worse... and there are those of us who said what was going to happen, when you decided to wage war and pass laws open to abuse... and we were right... all along. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13Social Engineering.
- dBLiSS, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14Ok, so you don't trust the inquirer. The wired article seems legit, as well as cites sources.
- SigmaDraconis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10You mean, "Now stop being a terrorist."
- mahler, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10truly shocking .... and unheard-of
I trust our government will take the necessary steps to make sure this doesn't happen again. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I love this post from the wired article:
"Congratulations MM and Mike in Dallas for successfully demonstrating the idiocy of the two extremes: "***** the Man" and "Submit to Authority", respectively. You'll find your prize, an autographed copy of "The Truth", if you look somewhere between your two arguments."
Posted by: BJR | Jul 10, 2007 7:05:33 PM - cybortrip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6by reading your comment, i can only infer that you did not read the article, which if that is the case, next time keep your flames between you and your boyfriend
- EztliNahua, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8I haven't seen them be inaccurate yet. I've seen plenty of articles with heavy speculation, that has turned out to be true.
And if you click the link, they actually have the letters. - gotamd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7I like the Inquirer. They make no representation about being unbiased and impartial and they give the news (or their news) some humor. I see nothing wrong with the Inquirer so long as you keep in mind that they're not the most "professional" of journalists and some of their stories may be wrong. I've found that most of the time, however, they're right.
- greenmountain, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4For those unfamiliar with the Inquirer, I suggest reading it, it is great fun, irreverent.
Example
"Mozzarella Firefox is a big cheese in Europe
Firewidget cheese slices Interwibble Exploder"
Now, is there a reader who is going to confuse that with the New York Times?
Which is of course, an unassailable, reliable source of...
nevermind.
Another, capturing thier humor and relentless cutting through the ***** attitude, both of which I really like:
"Internet is "a great tool, abused to smear Dasani"
Says Coke, as it keeps quiet about Aspartame" - faskill, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Carnivore has since been retired ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/15/fbi_retires_carnivore/ ). Granted it has been replaced with a faster, smarter, leaner, meaner machine... And who needs a system to monitor computer chatter when you can just grab a person and detain them indefinitely without trial or charge?
- kapsar, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I completely agree with you. It's so surreal that we hear the announcements that we do in the airports. It's exactly like it would be in a dystopian future. A few weeks ago i flew out of Houston and i heard this announcement. "Do not make jokes about airport security, or security matters, you can be arrested and held for questioning." I was just thinking you've got to be kidding me, that's ridiculous. We don't have to worry about the terrorist winning when we are constantly bombarded and reminded about them, and can't make wise cracks, even if they are REALLY funny about security. The terrorists have won. People are afraid to fly, afraid of the government, and afraid of the terrorists.
- phoomp, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Larry Mefford, *Assistant Director in Charge*
An Assistant Director is high enough up the food chain that he represents a significant chunk of the FBI. If the *Director* of the FBI does something, would that *still* be only "one person ... not the FBI in general"? - greatkingrat85, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2It was Jack Bauer, he gave them his word that thousands of people will die if they didn't.
- sputnike, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I refuse to believe that staff from CTU would lie... Your telling me that Jack Bauer and Chloe Obrien lied to the ISP's? They wouldn't need to, they'd just either hack it or go in guns blazzing... fools. Burried as inaccurate.
- blindcydeee, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5Sigh... the Digg headlines just don't hit you as hard when you know the Bush administration is still in power.
- NiX0n, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I choose The Weekly World News for my tabloid fix
- tomis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Really, unless they're at your door with guns drawn, would anyone in their right mind actually comply with anything the government asks them to do? It's quite clear this isn't a government for the people by the people, and the job of police is only to "serve and protect" the continued power of the government over the people.
- twtmc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Ï love that guy who ate a lot of mustard powder and can now see the future. His articles are awesome.
- OBKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1http://digg.com/security/FBI_agents_abused_Patriot_Act_to_get_personal_data
- 8177, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2We protect the ***** out of you.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1There is another form of it. I worked for a wireless provider... helped build out their network. I was told to leave the access for the FBI open, rather than require a warrent. They were supposed to contact the liason and have them open a ticket for me to provide access. Instead, it was/is open 24/7/365. This was a directive from the VP of Operations, who worked closely with lobby groups to ensure there were no blockades to getting cell sites deployed and various other things.
- MacEnvy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I've never seen you post something that wasn't presented as "AMERICA BAD". I may be firmly against the policies of the current administration, but I also think that repairs are possible to our broken system.
Where do you live, that you can sit on your high horse and proclaim greatness? Just curious. I'm sure we could find some stuff that's pretty bad about any country, but few of us would equate that to "your country=completely bad", and repeat that in every post made.
Why the interest in America if it's so awful? Why not just stay out of these threads then, if it's all an affront to your national sensibilities? Just making a point here. - OBKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1http://digg.com/security/FBI_agents_abused_Patriot_Act_to_get_personal_data
- MacEnvy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Yeah, if only President Clinton hadn't pushed that damn PATRIOT Act through Congress ... oh, wait.
- HannahMerry, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Of course this is a fake article. The government is here to help you. Just go back to what you were doing. Everything will be fine. No need to research this article and see the actual declassified .PDFs that took me 30 seconds to link to. Trust your government, the media lies. Everything will be fine.
- faskill, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Al Gonzo can't be held accountable for what he is unable to recollect.
- NiX0n, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2http://digg.com/politics/FBI_Patriot_Act_Abuse_Documents_What_Special_Project_Lives_in_FBI_HQ_Room
- faskill, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1People who don't not trust the inquirer.
- ladyreward, on 10/11/2007, -6/+5Kind of a loose end story
- joebob, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1When did they make the pretense of telling the truth?
- incongruity, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I fail to see how this disproves my point in the least... I'm not defending President Bush -- I think the current administration has done much to hurt individual liberty and damage our country, but my point is that it certainly didn't start with this administration and your comment is exactly what I was talking about -- if you think this ends when Bush leaves office, you're either insane, stupid or both.
- faskill, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1...is a form of hacking, where people employ tools to persuade individuals to allow certain or all accesses to a particular system or inner-workings. It seems as though social engineering is a little different here. I go down to my local Starbucks and chat with the manager stating that corporate says their wi-fi network doesn't meet security guidelines and I need to perform updates on it. The manager allows me to make these "changes" although I'm in no way associated with Starbucks or their network providers. That is (perhaps not the best example of:) social engineering. If a man wearing a suit donning a legitimate badge of _pick your own federal organization_ with a letter that is federally backed stating that I must cooperate or suffer imprisonment, fines, etc., believe you me, I shall be complying forthwith.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1THE FBI LIED - IP ADDRESSES DIED
- faskill, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1ur mom has a loose end... oh snap!
- incongruity, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Oh, whatever, I'm sorry, but a lot of this crap started before the current administration and writing it off as just yet another of the many crappy things they have done is just setting all of us for a lot more trouble as the next administration will just continue the same sort of practices if the people don't speak out in a big way. Doubt me? Look back at carnivore and echelon -- both started before the current administration and both largely ignored or even praised as crime fighting tools by the public at large. Nothing was done so the government thought it could get away with more... and they have. Thinking there's a meaningful difference between the recent presidents when it comes to you rights is just silly...
- sonic007, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0We should be allowed to download music its right!!!
- jav1231, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Ah, more censorship by digg users. Yeah, you guys are all about free speech.
- faskill, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1I didn't agree with you the first time.
- Error601, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1The Monday morning nut bag conspiracy article?
- Fairly, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1I buried this as lame because it has no relevance if you're not a loser living in the US. ;)
- awtripp, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Did anyone read the Wired article that the ***** Inquired links to? There's a little more depth there. Dugg down for linking the ***** inquirer article and not the Wired.com write-up.
- HPCELarry, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Who trusts the inquirer?
- incongruity, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Oh, whatever, I'm sorry, but a lot of this crap started before the current administration and writing it off as just yet another of the many crappy things they have done is just setting all of us for a lot more trouble as the next administration will just continue the same sort of practices if the people don't speak out in a big way. Doubt me? Look back at carnivore and echelon -- both started before the current administration and both largely ignored or even praised as crime fighting tools by the public at large. Nothing was done so the government thought it could get away with more... and they have. Thinking there's a meaningful difference between the recent presidents when it comes to you rights is just silly...
- willgill, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Story open ended and relating to one person within the FBI, Larry Mefford, not FBI in general.
Buried as grossly misleading and inaccurate. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -12/+6I saw the title and was like 'well duh' then I saw the source ( inquirer.net ) and decided I couldnt quite digg it
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