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- bobthebruce123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I would be very surprised to learn that there were 435,000 genuine risks to our security, worldwide. There are a lot of false blips on the radar screen; torturing people will only provide more, and real terrorists will slip through the cracks.
- kodak543, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9yeah, it seems they dumped every foreign sounding name on their hoping something would stick. Hell, even Yusuf Islam [formerly known as Cat Stevens] is on that database, and all he does these days is charity work. I've even heard of cases where babies and toddlers get on that list, Americans should be asking why after billions of dollars, this system is still fatally flawed.
This database is something used to make regular americans feel that the government is doing something about the terrorist risk, when in reality, nothing is being done. - nunbot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6sounds like terrorist talk!
say hello to my new terrorista database! - SlvrEagle23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5These days, we call those "PCs". The government probably just bought them with Windows preinstalled so they were cheaper, then installed something else.
- Dhalsim007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Haha....sounds a lot like the Digg story submittal system! :-)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I made a negative comment about Bush once and my Terror Score went up 100pts.
Also, my credit card interest rate went up.
DAMN YOU BUSH! - david76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Let's not be overly pedantic. There are lots of reasons people will Digg one submission over another. So it's not the end of the world that there are duplicates.
- Meowbiusfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Hey,My Dog Sparky is on that list.
I know because the RIAA is sueing him for illegal downloading too. - williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I check mine at freeterrorscore.com! Inaccurate terror scores can cause you to be unnecessarily served halal meals if you are "detained." Check your score now! Free!
- clanky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Terror_database_fixes_some_problems_but_0325.html
- DickBreath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wouldn't it just be simpler to have a database of everyone who is NOT a terrorist?
- Leomarth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2We just chain you down and gag you, in the name of your safety. Yes, yes of course you still have your freedom.
- tomboy501, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5oops...I just noticed I duped on this. Same link to WaPo too...I wonder why dupe check didn't catch it?
oh well, please bury mine and digg the original: http://digg.com/world_news/Terror_Database_Has_Quadrupled_In_Four_Years - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2just watchin' the TIDE fall...
- TheGilmanator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@SlvrEagle23
More specifically, they're HP D530s, which, through my experience at work, have a tendancy to kill their hard drives pretty frequently. The case doesn't handle heat very well and bad things happen. - johnlandes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Is Denny Crane still on there?
- NoSpaceForRent, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Last summer I went to celebrate turning the big 21 in Vegas with my dad and and some friends. Both me and my Dad were stopped because we were on the "Watch List"
It was all very odd. Since we had bought our tickets online, we went to the much shorter Express Lanes where all you do is swipe the credit card, get your printed ticket, get the printed bag tags, apply the tags and leave the there bags instead of waiting forever in line. We got a nice little message saying please wait for attendant. We didn't think much of it and were talking until we noticed no one else had to wait for an attendant. Someone finally came, asked to see our IDs, typed some stuff on the computer and told us everything was OK. We asked what was going on since no one else was waiting and she said this stuff happens all the time. We were on the watch list, but it is nothing to worry about, usuallly it is just having a certain name will throw a flag. We were fine and she said we wouldn't have any problems on our return flight. On the way back there were no issues.
A couple of things...
Our last name is Garcia, a fairly common hispanic last name
If you are the Watch List all you have to do is show a driver's license
Getting off the List is just as easy as getting on it
Hurray for national security - elipabst, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just recently read an interesting article about the CDCs large scale computer surveillance program that was implemented after 9/11 to spot clusters of illness that may represent the early stages of a bioterror attack. The system is designed similar to this one where it just culls large amounts of raw data and tries to make sense out of it. Apparently the whole thing is also a total clusterf*ck and is prone to false positives, to the point where congress is already talking about scrapping it after having spent hundreds of millions. My favorite part was how a medical coding error caused a bunch of cases of congestive heart failure (CHF) to get entered as CCHF, the code for Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever which set off all kinds of alarms and had them thinking a major attack had just occurred in somewhere in New Jersey.
- synaesthesia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I always thought a Wikipedia-style terror-intel directory would be a miracle for the Intelligence community. Imagine if instead of covering everything from Pokemon to Ancient Greece, the articles were of various terror members and suspects, including links to their associates and suspected actions. Entries could only be made by members of the intelligence community (FBI, NSA, CIA, DoD-components, etc) and would include citations to intel-reports, state the name of the person providing the intel, and have an icon or symbol that designated how sure the author was of the intel's accuracy.
- elipabst, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@NoSpaceForRent "Our last name is Garcia, a fairly common hispanic last name"
I heard something (I believe on NPR) about a large number of very common hispanic surnames being on the terror watch list. I can't for the life of me figure out why they'd want to do that because of the absurd number of false positives, but it's their show I guess. Interesting that all it takes is a simple flashing of a state drivers license, especially since the 9/11 guys all had valid IDs as well. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Last I checked, just because you have a sticker on the computer, doesn't mean that is what's installed.
- digbird, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This is another "damned if we do; damned if we don't" situation for the Intelligence Community. In the aftermath of the September 11 attacks, the IC gets blamed for failing to connect the dots (i.e. piece together the scattered evidence of the plot). With great fanfare, various experts on national security proclaim that we need to think out of the box and do much better with intelligence analysis.
A few years pass without a terrorist attack in the US. People feel more secure. News of this type of database leaks. People freak out --as some of the comments here indicate). Maybe the database gets shut down or effectively hobbled.
Meanwhile, the terrorists have been plotting another attack. The IC fails to connect the dots. The attack succeeds. People scream about why the IC let them down.
And it goes on and on ad nauseum. - isopod, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7Not only is the idea of this database scary... look at its implementation: There are four _Windows_ boxes shown in the photo.
Who else has read-write access to this data besides the US Government ?!? - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4You would be surprised if there were 435,000 out of 6.6 Billion? That is about .006% of the population or about one in 16,000. Seems reasonable to me.
- npsken, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2It's not that insecure, relax.
- McTendo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Buried. Zero Dark is better then Tide.
- bananaguyc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1The poster is calling this a dupe people. Please bury as such.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0"........and has created serious concerns..."
Yea...right. Exactly WHO has "serious concerns"?? Let me guess, the "Hate America First" crowd like the ACLU or People for the American Way. They are ALWAYS on the side of terrorists.......


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