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- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -11/+134what the *****
- karamba_kid, on 10/12/2007, -10/+81I was watching that F'ing moron Gen. Michael Hayden on CSPAN the other day and that idiot didn't even know that the 4Th Amendment mentions the need for Probable Cause to conduct a legal search or seizure. He thought it was just reasonable suspicion. That guy needs to rot in jail along with George Bush. Ahh here found it on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_V._Hayden read the transcript under warrantless searches. What a ***** *****!
- strangerzero, on 10/12/2007, -11/+81Is American becoming a dictatorship?
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+67What the ***** indeed. It makes me sad that these companies comply with the government without even notifying their customers.
- 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -1/+61If there's money involved, expect the worst.
- sspooner, on 10/12/2007, -7/+66No, but people are getting dumber.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -5/+61Stellen Sie Fragen Sie insulant Schwein nicht! Nur macht, was Ihr Wut eerrr Präsident Ihnen erzählt!
Don't ask questions you insulant swine! Just do what your furor eerrr president tells you! - bobgoat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+53http://digg.com/security/NSA_Wiretapping_Case_Dropped
They have. And the government threw out the case, citing 'national security'. - lemorex, on 10/12/2007, -10/+61It's not like it's a surprise.
They read your email, too. - alienfluid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+52the media forces them to believe what is told to them. the american people need to wake up and take back their real freedom. exercise your constitutional right damn it, stand up!
- coredump0x01, on 10/12/2007, -14/+63Everyone loves a lunk-headed, truth-ignoring product of red america!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+53It is not "becoming" a dictatorship. It already is.
Just open your eyes and see the evidence.
But just like in Germany in the 30's most of the big media keep telling you that
everything is alright, so don't bother thinking about it, the government is in control
and "is taking care of things(sic)".
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - imjustabill, on 10/12/2007, -4/+49from the Wikipedia article:
QUESTION: Jonathan Landay with Knight Ridder. I'd like to stay on the same issue, and that had to do with the standard by which you use to target your wiretaps. I'm no lawyer, but my understanding is that the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution specifies that you must have probable cause to be able to do a search that does not violate an American's right against unlawful searches and seizures. Do you use --
GEN. HAYDEN: No, actually -- the Fourth Amendment actually protects all of us against unreasonable search and seizure.
QUESTION: But the --
GEN. HAYDEN: That's what it says.
QUESTION: But the measure is probable cause, I believe.
GEN. HAYDEN: The amendment says unreasonable search and seizure.
The person in charge of the NSA from 2001 untill last year did not know the 4th ammendment. I hear canada is nice this time of year. - Fawkes, on 10/12/2007, -5/+49Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
- alienfluid, on 10/12/2007, -6/+46please tell me you're kidding.
it's not only about the actual act, but the precedent it sets. would you like them to listen to your every conversation, read your every letter, interpret the movies you watch, the books you read? is it okay to arrest you on grounds that you read "the communist manifesto" in the library? where does it stop? once the ball is set rolling, there are enough weirdos in this world that will demand more on the pretext of security. as someone said, "we do not deserve security, if we are willing to give up our freedom for it". would you want to live under a dictatorship if it guarantess you security? no, this is not hypothetical, it's pretty real outside of America.
and no, i'm not a tree-hugging leftist either, i just want me privacy ... well, private. - atezun, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44Considering it's far easier to read someone's e-mail than bug a phone conversation, what exactly makes you feel the NSA wouldn't stoop to reading e-mail before bugging phone lines?
- nigel40, on 10/12/2007, -7/+44I hope a bunch of people get together to sue the phone companies and the bush government.
- TopherT, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39Wtf do you think total information awareness was? And don't think for a second that they actually scrapped that. While there isn't anyone actually reading your email, rather an algorithm trying to identify you as a 'terrorist', the whole deal feels rather big brother.
I always took a I have nothing to hide point of view, until I heard about government infiltration into peacefull protest groups in the 1960's. I might not be much for activism, but I sure as hell support people who are willing to put that kind of time and effort into peacefull protest for reform. - robschraer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+40.... plz tell me you don't really think that. How can any American stand by and watch as their freedom is stolen away from them little by little in the name of "safety"
- circusbred, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38One thing I would like to know.... How the hell is this happening?
- GamingFox, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37Remember President Nixon and the Watergate?
Nixon got busted sending his men to break into democrats' headquarter at Watergate so they can plant bugs and read their files. President Nixon did that so he can learn what democrats are up to and use it to Nixon's advantages over democrats in the Congress by using the information to sway democrats to vote in his or republicans' favor.
Imagine President like Nixon with the information of MILLIONS of Americans including politicians and law enforcement people in his hands? I shuddered by thinking about it. - TopherT, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37@Bitdrifter: This isn't a partisan issue ***** (god help those who can only think in red and blue), i'd be just as pissed if I saw proof that clinton was pulling this kind of thing.
- bobgoat, on 10/12/2007, -7/+38Common contempt and apathy like this for the liberty and freedoms our fore-fathers intended for us is exactly why we are losing them.
What if drinking was outlawed? Then would you care? - 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33FTA (at that link): National Security Agency refused to grant Justice Department lawyers security clearance.
That's contempt of court. The NSA *cannot* run the justice department, and for obvious reasons. It's just another indication as to how much the Wush administration has bastardized our government. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32This makes me so angry. I'll bet the founding fathers are rolling in their graves. We need to have our own boycotts and million man marches, but instead of for black pride or illegal immigrant rights, it's for "American Freedom". Something that benefits every american, no matter what race you are, no matter what sex you are, it will be the ultimate stand. Is asking for our own gov't to follow the laws and consitution such a big thing to ask?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34Events like this are why the constitution wanted every American to have a gun.
"People should not fear their government, their government should fear the people." - V
=) - kday, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31Why is everyone so surprised? Anyone with half a brain knew this was happening all along. If you didn't want this stuff to happen, why did you re-elect the all-mighty GW?
- neatflux, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32I am pretty sure the NSA has been watching my family, simply because there is some Arab blood in it. The Arabs in our family constantly get racially profiled and harrassed at airports. My father-in-law who is true blue Palestinian, got put in jail because he had the same name as a terrorist... but c'mon.. don't they have pictures of the people they are after? My brother-in-law has been asked in DC if his Arab-sounding last name was supposed to be some kind of joke by a burly secret service agent when he attended the Bush's 2nd inagural parade. My wife, now that she has my American last name, doesn't get stopped in airports anymore, wheras before she did EVERY TIME. I understand that your chances of being a terrorist if you are Arab are higher, but I doesnt it scare you that the best clue they have is by looking at your name?
- bobgoat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31@dude3609: http://legalminds.lp.findlaw.com/list/cyberia-l/msg46438.html
- panique, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30I think more like a herd of sheep with the role of shepherd being played by The Devil's Minion.
- Kickboy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+32We're past "becoming"
- abbott75, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27"But that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." GW Bush -- http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
- karamba_kid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26These people nominated him just yesterday for the head of the CIA! Where do they find these idiots?
- dddddd32, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24"This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations."
RTFA and stop making ***** up. - jayf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24rednecklover: Have you picked up this week's doublespeak dictionary? Edition 439.
- atezun, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25An honest man with his foot in the door can still let a murder in.
- alienfluid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26why don't you put a webcam in your room and broadcast it over the internet 24/7 if you don't care. my private life is mine, anyone snooping in is a breach of my privacy. this is an abuse of power, something that can easily turn ugly if not stopped dead on its tracks.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Oh, that's OK, then. That guy in my closet with the microphone isn't stealing my beers, either, so he's OK, too.
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25@circusbred:
Well, it's quite simple, really. You pick up what we call a telephone receiver and put it to your ear. You then dial any "phone number" in the world. Once you start hearing ringing, hang up the phone. That's the sound of the NSA listening. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24"why did you re-elect the all-mighty GW"
No one did. "Anyone with half a brain knew that."
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Now, what are you going to do about it? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25I'm tired of the ignorant Bush supporters too, but to be honest, I'm not too crazy about the Alex Jones type followers either. They raise good concerns that everyone should think about, but they will call anyone who even casually asks a question about their opinion a sheep. To me, that makes them a sheep, just on the other side. I believe the best thing is to be in the middle. We know that Bush is up to no good, and we also know that people like Alex Jones are known to stretch the truth and ignore the things that are done right in their rants. Everyone knows somebody who trys to tell a cooler story everytime you talk, or disagrees with everything you tell them just for the sake of argument. You could say "the sky is blue", and they will come out with some crazy off topic stuff trying to prove you wrong. They never seem to have a well thought out "fix it" plan either.
What I'm saying is, listen to Alex Jones, get a new opinion, but don't worship the guy. Once you heard his ideas, question them. Question both sides, but don't be an ***** with the questions. Ask questions to learn, and nothing else. Be in the middle, more open minded than either side, and sheep free! That's true freedom there. - alienfluid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21i agree.
you might not be the target now, tomorrow, that's another story. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24First they came for the arabs and I said nothing.
Then they came for the mexicans and I said nothing.
Then they came for the liberals and I said nothing.
Then they came for the republicans who didn't know it was illegal to have sex with blood relatives and animals, and there was nobody left to speak out. - jrsims, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21Let's just say that as a nation, we were ready to do what we needed to do to change this situation and wanted to take steps to improve things. Where would we begin? Encryption could be a step, but as we know, if you encrypt it means you must have something to hide - you could be a terrorist threat. How about voting?
I wonder how many of us still feel our vote counts anymore. - robschraer, on 10/12/2007, -8/+26... i have one thing to say about all this NSA wire taping crapola and the current state of these united states..... Hi big brother please take away all my freedoms so that i might have a false sense of security.....
- scratchpd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21i'm german and i've visited the us last year and it was such a cool place, nice people etc. id love to live there and would recommend anyone to go visit the us.
but WTF is wrong with your government? and why do the people tolerate it? too busy? don't care? .. - noeljohnhoward, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23(at synaesthesia) So invasion of privacy dosnt mean anything to you>? What about the founding UN document preserving the rights a men (human i mean). dosnt mean anything to you>
? - clearzen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20@synaesthesia
I hope you are joking. It's people that think the government CAN protect them if they are willing to sacrifice personal freedoms that will be the fall of this country. Do you feel any more safe today than when the towers where hit? Do you think that the government can guarantee you safety? Are you willing to flush your children's right away for false security? - bobgoat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power."
-- Benjamin Franklin - egrabosky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17And clinton almost got impeached for a bj from a fat chick???? what the ***** indeed!
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