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- minusonebit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+141If actually true and not just clever lawyering, someone should also get rid of the ADA who is prosecuting the case. What a waste of taxpayer money.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+94"She could face up to 40 years in prison."
Wow. People have murdered others and gotten nowhere near that. This is ridiculous. - Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -11/+96Really, when most the people in the school and legal system don't understand, let alone really even use computer, what do you expect? They don't know that popups are malicious content that infects your computer. They think that it is content that you, personally, decide and choose to add to the computer on your own. They just don't get it.
That being said, this isn't going to change until people who grow up with the technology are working as "officials." The sad part..? Well, there will be something else they will totally be stupid and ignorant about.
When people get old, they'll stop reading places like digg. Stop watching intelligent TV. Stop educating themselves in general since they've "grown out of it", in there oh so high and mighty (but nonexistant) maturity. So they become stupid, but think they still know it all:
"Oh my, popups, you're such a pervert for adding those!"
Well, yeah... Welcome to America I guess. - Shirk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5840yrs for porn pop-ups,
Less than 5 for killing someone...
Strange. - theMurdocVolta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+58Become a Firefighter or a Cop.
The pay is way better, and you're less likely to be shot or sued. - shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -4/+55"If it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that they were just popups, then there is no way that they will get convicted."
assuming the jusge even knows what a popup is.... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+50is anyone ever going to want to teach in this country ever again? I'm more afraid of becoming a teacher these days than a god damned cop or firefighter.
- drvelocity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+47Step 1: Appeal and win.
Step 2: Impeach this ***** judge. - dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -7/+52What a crap legal system you people have in the US. Who wrote your laws? The Klingon high council?
- tuxidomasx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+46step 3 got convicted for looking at porn
- theMurdocVolta, on 10/12/2007, -3/+44Umm, yea.
Your story sounds like *****, but thanks for playing. - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+46I bet her, and hopefully the school, will be switching to Firefox after this.
- DrMic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+38"If it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that they were just popups, then there is no way that they will get convicted."
Uh, no. The accused is to be proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt, not have to prove their innocence. Tho onus is to be on the prosecution, not the defense. If there is reasonable doubt of guilt, then the verdict is to be not guilty. - bennies, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34So to reduce your jail time, if your pc shows porn popups you better kill the kids.
- green1152, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34First of all, up to 40 years is a really really long time, even if she is guilty.
Second of all, I wouldn't be surprised if the kids had already seen some kind of porn before. Whether it be internet or rated R movies. It's everywhere.
I'm on her side. - unloud, on 10/12/2007, -8/+40It's not mine; but if I say why I'll be called a fanboy and dugg down.
- ElliotShoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26spyware, the bane of my existence
and obviously her's - ePlus, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33Step 4: ??
Step 5: Profit! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27"Wow. People have murdered others and gotten nowhere near that. This is ridiculous."
I agree, She *should* have murdered the kids. - MasteRR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25"I bet her, and hopefully the school, will be switching to Firefox after this."
The problem is that most of the time the person who has the power to make a decision like that doesn't know what the hell Firefox is. - NoNameHere, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24The school system is broken. The legal system is broken. That makes this... beyond broken?
- giveer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Bypass Blog, Original Source:
http://www.norwichbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070106/NEWS01/701060312/1002/NEWS17 - pezholio, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Your school is gay? I didn't know schools could have a sexual orientation. My whole world view has been shifted with this talk of gay schools. Next you'll be telling me that cheese can talk...
- Ystig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20Article: "they convicted Amero, 40, of Windham of four counts of risk of injury to a minor, or impairing the morals of a child"
"Impairing the morals of a child?" Really? Is that actually on the books as such? - cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21"Our officials are all retarded, I bet I know more about a computer then any politician combined."
They know more about grammar. - mcraigw, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18
The lesson to learn from this, if you are a teacher, is: If your PC becomes infected or some kid has surfed porn on it, rather than report it, just format the hard drive and tell them you don't know what happened. - mbthompson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13If this is true, then Kevin Rose is next with that pop-up on The Screensavers. All the kiddies saw that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJY0FjiOkjM - MadOtaku, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17What happened to step 3?
- MasteRR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10'"If it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that they were just popups, then there is no way that they will get convicted."
Uh, no. The accused is to be proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt, not have to prove their innocence. Tho onus is to be on the prosecution, not the defense. If there is reasonable doubt of guilt, then the verdict is to be not guilty.'
Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way. A lot of things don't work the way they were designed... - pathy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10How is it her fault that the machine was infected with spyware?
I'd say it's even LESS her fault if they come up without her opening a browser. - dpknc84, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13"stop reading places like digg"
I refuse to acknowledge that blasphemy sir. - theMurdocVolta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10the "IT Team".
When I was a Senior in High School, myself and two other Students were the IT Team, Oh yea there were two EMPLOYED IT staff members but they didn't do *****, because why do the work when a student will do it for free.
My point is that a schools IT Team doesn't do ***** unless the network goes down, and even then... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12@CBTF Do you really think that S&D will protect you all the time? No its not, its a great program and works damn good but you still can't get 100%.Saying one program will save your system is complete bs. And bashing mac isn't going to save you hell they didn't even have to run that bs at all. But I guess you don't know nothing about computers do you.
- ih8regs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9What obviously needs to be done is get porn popups on the Judge's computer to get her sent away.
- djm101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"Impairing the morals of a child"
...what to say. I can't believe there's actually a law against that. 40 years in prison, that's like 4 times as long as paedophiles get in the UK and I'm pretty sure they RUIN kids morals. - Myonosken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8That's messed up. Excluding the poorly conducted trial, 40 years?! How on earth is showing a kid porn worth more than if you'd beat him to death?
- Stevethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The ignorance of some people is phenomenal. I can't understand why people complaining that our society is *****, if 90% of the people are fools what do you expect to happen?
- RonaldLewis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is rather strange. Female teachers are sleeping with underage males and suffer few consequences (oh, a slap on th wrist, ya know?) Yet, this female teacher is being scorned for porn? Now, this is just sad. Why not apply this to the women who are escaping accountability for their sexual acts?
- davesphone00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6First of all, it was a seventh grade class. They're about 13 years old, right? Second of all, she's a substitute teacher. Hello? First thing that comes to my mind is, "Let's play a prank on the substitute teacher." Hopefully some kid will come forward and admit to setting the teacher up.
- snurfle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Well, no more than 7 of them...
- Cerebral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6If the teacher really DID NOT install some software or visit a site that did infect the computer then he should counter-sue the hell out of the County, Shoolboard etc.
The school obviously failed to provide enough protection to the computer either via Content(web) Filter, Firewall, Antivirus, system admin lockdown etc.
The anti-argument would be that if that were the case then more computers would become infected. This could be countered by looking at what updates ALL computers have on the network. I do not believe that the public school system pushes out that kind of stuff. The school would then have to make the case that they do provide provisions against all of these things which if he has spyware/viruses on his system then clearly this is not the case.
The other downside is that this case will set a new precedence that can spell more bad news for teachers/schools. I can see it now where a teacher gives a student a bad grade and so the student visits some warez sites and infects the PC with spyware and well... you get the picture. - Shirk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@3dom
There are teachers who are caught having sex with underaged students who are only sentenced 1-5 years. Now I'm not a parent yet, but I'm pretty sure that someones child seeing an Internet pop-up isn't on the same level as statutory rape. Unless this teacher was raping then killing children, there's no way in hell a 40yr sentence should even be an option. - LavaHot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You're less likely to be shot if you're a cop than if you're a teacher? Comon Chewie, that does not make sense. What has happened to this poor woman is what has destroyed the lives of many professionals. Search Youtube for "Farm Sluts"
- Pareidoliatic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Terrible reporting. As is usual with these types of stories, there simply is not enough information given to determine if the teacher was in any way responsible for exposing the students to pornography. The obvious questions are all unanswered.Where was the computer located? When, and why, did the students have access to it? When the pop-ups started appearing, why didn't the teacher simply turn it off? And finally, if this teacher was "guilty" of viewing inappropriate material on the school computer, how in the name of common sense is that in any way worthy of FORTY frikken years!?
- socalrob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This right here is a case that shows why people in America, besides the fact of the low wages, are hesitant about becoming educators. Something stupid like this happens and all of a sudden your facing 40 years in prison? I had aspirations of becoming a teacher when I started college, and any last shred of thought towards that has gone out the window.
- zodiac101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I remember something like this happened in my web-design class
My teacher was showing us how the Whitehouse website was designed so he went to the .com site instead of .gov while the computer was hooked to a projector, at the time the .com website was a porn site and boy were we suprised XD - Pareidoliatic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Ahem. The so-called police "expert" claimed that someone could have visited those sites only by clicking on the links. Even assuming that he was correct, which is simply frikking WRONG, he still can't prove that the substitute teacher was the one visiting those sites, unless he actually witnessed her doing it. In order to prove their stupid case though, they would STILL need a witness who saw the teacher visit the site in question, and then actually call the students up to look at said site. The contention is ridiculous on its face, as their own evidence says that the viewing was inadvertent.
What's next , prosecuting an accident victim whose clothing has been torn with indecent exposure? This is what happens when religious fundamentalists gain political power. This poor woman is being made a scapegoat by the hypocritical hysteria mongers who generally have the most to hide. - franklinbluth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@ thirdprize, I sure hope the teacher wasn't thinking that while on those sites.
- Sl4sher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Agreeing with Murdoc.
Myself and 4 other students were the IT team. One of the paid techs only fixed PC's in the library, and the other actively tried to sabotage our work. There were about 500 pc's in our school, and we had neither the ability nor the infrastructure to monitor all or any of them for problems. Due to time restriction we had to work on full classrooms of PC's, so a problem like this would go ignored for a month or more while more important problems like say replacing machines that still ran DOS with XP boxes could be dealt with.
The kicker: This was a TECHNICAL HIGH SCHOOL, and considered one of the best in BROOKLYN. - iliketokick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The worst part is that this was an innocent substitute teacher who wasn't even using her own computer.
Wrong place at the wrong time, I guess. -
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