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- palehorse864, on 03/09/2009, -0/+36Good, I loved the worms series of games. Worms 2 was awesome, but i'm not sure how I feel about the swap to 3d.
- dextermanas, on 03/09/2009, -3/+26What Symantec really means:
"Blah Blah worm is on the loose (again)! Be afraid! Veeery afraid! Limited User Accounts/NAT/Firewall/OS Updates are useless, hence buy our software/update license so that you can stay protected from Blah Blah worm!"
(until the next variant comes along..) - Azerael, on 03/09/2009, -2/+18They would be warning us all about it, seeing as they profit profusely from its existence.
The best antivirus is your mind. Don't click stupid links, and you'll be safe. - mbonzo531, on 03/09/2009, -5/+20My money is on Symantec being behind it. What a great scheme they have going on, and I can't believe how many people dish out money for their crappy software built upon a fear that they create. Save yourself money, the trouble of backing up your documents every week, and/or the trouble switching to a lesser operating system, don't be a jackass when you download stuff. After dealing with Norton's ***** handling of the windows registry, I have done without anti-virus for 4 years on XP and Vista without a single problem or bluescreen. No anti-virus is ever needed because the majority of the people who get viruses are the same clueless people who will get scammed by those crazy Nigerians. So I figure its best for them to not have a computer anyway.
- DeathRay2K, on 03/09/2009, -1/+15Frankly, no one who really knows what they're doing gets viruses, even on Windows.
- palehorse864, on 03/09/2009, -3/+16Several good antiviruses are free dude, and work better than the pay ones. What tax?
- DamnMan, on 03/09/2009, -2/+13Depends on your definition of "Computer Literate"
Ask any tech support guy will have a horror story about some software engineer with an advanced degree that's every bit as bad as the receptionist down the hall because hes just the software guy. WTF does he care about cross site scripting, DNS poisoning, or why turning UAC off is a bad thing.
The network guy who has no problem tracking down bum UTP cabling or setting up the clock rates for ancient Cisco routers serial WAN equipment and can recite the OSPF routing protocol RFC by heart. When he goes home to look at porn though its all the same to him as a joe blow bus driver. He needs a new video codec to watch the new American Idol leaked sex video, sure why not! - Pushkin, on 03/09/2009, -3/+14BIG VIRUS COMING !!! PLEASE READ & FORWARD !!! TELL ALL FRIENDS, FAMILY AND CONTACTS!!!
- qwertydvorak, on 03/09/2009, -2/+12From Symantec: Our crap is worthless. Update Windows, and hope for the best. Who pays for this crap ? The amount of money they rake in, they should be able to handle viruses better. Just avoid viruses and don't run antivirus software.
- LucasKane, on 03/09/2009, -4/+14If you have your windows updated you'll be protected
- Torx, on 03/09/2009, -1/+11No *****, i would'nt be surprised if they created the ***** worm.
- DotFreelance, on 03/09/2009, -7/+17Yeah. I'm enjoying being able to run any application I come across.
- jtechs, on 03/09/2009, -2/+11norton is a worm
- pilobilus, on 03/09/2009, -3/+11From Symantec: "Downadup, also called "Conficker," has infected an estimated 6% of PCs worldwide . The worm spreads by exploiting a four-month-old vulnerability in Windows, by brute-force password attacks and by hitchhiking on USB devices like flash drives."
If you are using a Microsoft operating system, updating to the current service pack and installing effective antivirus software (like AVG) reduces your risks. But if you are using a Microsoft operating system, you are not "protected". 40 million botnet trojans - which only affect Microsoft operating systems - can't all be living on computer illiterate home users' machines... - aqrilik, on 03/09/2009, -0/+8Boohoo Norton sucks - I don't see Symantec telling you to dl their ***** anywhere in the article. No one cares about your experience with tech support. The REAL story here is that this worm is a real threat. People who use "Common Sense 2009" obviously have no idea how malware works.
- AReallyGoodName, on 03/09/2009, -1/+9Well this worm intentionally makes itself hard to uninstall.
So I guess it does have Symantec code in it. - whytey, on 03/09/2009, -1/+7"You Need The Speed Of Norton 2009"
- orthodoxDrew, on 03/09/2009, -2/+8by paying $600 more for the computer?
- MrFurious2k, on 03/09/2009, -1/+6I've been using Symantec Antivirus (Corporate Edition) at our workplace for the past 8 years (we’re a small business under 100 people). Each year it seems like it has been a little more expensive than the last and each year the product gets a little more resource intensive. Symantec Endpoint protection is what finally killed it for me. While the product legitimately has an excellent management system from the administration side of things, it's a pain in the butt more often than not. Weird glitches occur with scans and heavy overhead for file operations really make some older machines downright unusable. The kicker is the number of times it actually fails to protect the client. Considering all the penalties of the software, at least you’d think it’d do a good job of protecting us. Wrong. Our renewal comes due this month and we’re switching to another vendor.
SEP added spyware protection, but it's terrible. You're lucky if you detect the most common types of malicious malware/spyware, but even when you do you often can't remove it. The beauty of this is that I sometimes get users that call who complain that SEP has detected and quarantined a piece of spyware but hasn’t actually removed it. They’ll keep getting the same message indicator opening over and over. Unfortunately, SEP didn’t detect the spyware until it was on the system and then it can’t properly remove it. It keeps quarantining files, but never removing the process. Consequently, I’ve had users have performance loss simply because their drive is filling with quarantined files and a constant battle between SEP and the malware. It’s ridiculous.
The final straw for me was Antivirus 2009 (malware). You know, users really ought to know by now not to click on every damned message they see. However, they do no matter how many times you tell them not to. Consequently, I have to rely to some degree on my AV/anti-spyware protecting the desktop. SEP didn’t stop AV2009. In fact, it just let the damned thing install and I had a number of users complaining about their system going crazy. So what was the fix? Well, I downloaded a freaking FREE piece of anti-spyware software to remove it. At that point, I was asking myself why the hell I was paying for SEP when I could get free stuff that was more effective.
After 8 years, I’m done with Symantec. If they want to be a first tier AV vendor, they need to do a lot more than write articles warning about malware. They have to actually defend against it. - raydeen, on 03/09/2009, -0/+5AVG Antivirus Free Edition. It checks for updates daily, integrates with Outlook Express, IE, and Firefox and has never let anything bad through on my machine or any of my customers machines unlike Norton and McAfee. Oh and it's free. So what is this tax you speak of?
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 03/09/2009, -0/+5Clearly you haven't seen too many "illiterate home users' machines." It's fairly common for someone to have multiple infections. I've seen systems with dozens, even hundreds, of unique infections.
It turns out that a lot of people who don't know what they're doing REALLY don't know what they're doing. It doesn't help that a lot of trojans, once installed, will proceed to download a bunch of other trojans and botnets. - macmcraeart, on 03/09/2009, -3/+8symantec - a large corporate organization that is losing its ass and has no reason to exist without viruses or worms.
- tomwhughes, on 03/09/2009, -1/+6Natural selection at work?
- darkharmonics, on 03/09/2009, -0/+4Actually you dont have to click anything to be vulnerable to a worm. You are correct that most people just need to be more careful to avoid protection. You still need to make sure you install the latest security patches and have a regularly updated virus scanner.
I just schedule mine to run updates and scans while i sleep. - inactive, on 03/09/2009, -2/+6Something's been identified by symantec?
- palehorse864, on 03/09/2009, -1/+5I got the sarcasm. However, I was subtly implying that there was no tax. I wouldn't think of it as the most clever thing. It's sort of like people talk about the Mac tax or the Apple tax in other posts. You know how people will say "What problem" when someone else thinks there is a problem, but they feel it is a non-issue.
And, download Avast antivirus. It's a good antivirus, better than Mcafee and Kaspersky (Both pay antiviruses) in my opinion. Which pay viruses are you talking about that are better than it and which free ones have you tried? Which ones have you tried recently and what are you basing this on? What do you feel are the benefits or drawbacks of various antiviruses?
Also, one thing I am genuinely curious about why you put a one word sentence on the end of your last paragraph. burrito. - astrotrain, on 03/09/2009, -0/+3"Unlimited free scanning and free 30-day license to remove detected malware"
Okay it finds it, then you need to purchase a yearly license to remove it.
Thats the same ***** %80 of "Free Scans" companies do, they lure you in, make you
think you have something, and then offer to remove it ONLY if you purchase the product.
I call these "Snake Oil" apps, and should be outlaws for luring users into Scareware
tactics to make the user pay. - Azerael, on 03/09/2009, -0/+3The Atari handheld or the deodorant spray?
- simpletim, on 03/09/2009, -3/+6Absolute crap. Totally untrue. You have no idea how malware works if that is your advice. or you are browsing the web on lynx.
- ka0tic, on 03/09/2009, -0/+2People just need to use common sense. Hell, I've been without a virus scan program for a while now and I'm perfectly fine whereas my friend who "had to have one" is still getting infected.
Also note: That 2mb file of a 3 hour movie isn't "a miracle and a technological breakthrough compression wise". People that fall for those files deserve the worms. - torressr3, on 03/09/2009, -2/+4replace "even" with "especially" and you got it right
- inactive, on 03/09/2009, -4/+6ha!
- Biscuitz, on 03/09/2009, -1/+3Or don't have IE on your computer either, it installs ***** without your knowledge, even when you don't use it.
http://www.spywareguide.com/product_show.php?id=63 ...
Read up on it.
Notice
Mirar Toolbar is a Internet Explorer toolbar that has been reported to stealth install. - inactive, on 03/09/2009, -2/+4Error!
please install codec.exe to watch.
(pushes close)
Error!
you can't close this window! Using IE I have already hijacked this browser and our worm has already inserted the boot script. When you reboot your AV will fail to load in time and the Rootkit will be installed.
To bad HAHA!
signed
Hackers.ru - MrViklund, on 03/09/2009, -1/+3Return of worms? Aaaa really...
- GOVATENT, on 03/09/2009, -0/+2Everyone says use a free anti-virus. Its not all that easy. For some people who operate a business which relies on windows, they are not legally entitled to use most of the free anti virus software out there. Sure clam a/v works, but it is only on demand scanning. I recommend all my clients (home users) to install avast free. As for business I send the way of the NOD. And for anyone that wants to listen, I advocate trying linux.
- Dagolith, on 03/09/2009, -0/+2Don't push "close" to geto ut of those situations. Use Alt+F4 newbie. Why click on the element of a suspicious dialog box? lol
- palehorse864, on 03/09/2009, -0/+2Don't forget Avast. I'm using that now and it works so much better than the pay antiviruses. I tried Kaspersky as well, which is also a pay antivirus, though I wouldn't recommend it.
- simpletim, on 03/09/2009, -0/+2The Atari hand held deodorant spray.
- inactive, on 03/09/2009, -3/+5Symantec needs to stop making these worms.
- Vosona, on 03/09/2009, -0/+2It gives you a free 7-day trial and gets rid of it.
- foofightrs777, on 03/09/2009, -1/+3When I would go on the web in class I used to do so in lynx. Then, I ended up with people who sat behind me coming up to me and asking me who I was hacking and could I do hack xyz for them. Lesson: to most common people terminal based progams == hacker.
- GOVATENT, on 03/09/2009, -0/+2You got it all wrong. Symantec stole from virus writers.
- whytey, on 03/09/2009, -1/+2It should be illegal for them to make a comment like that
ESET would just laugh at them - gvibe06, on 03/09/2009, -2/+3Using Internet Explorer in Windows is like leaving your car parked downtown overnight with the doors unlocked, the windows rolled down and the keys in the ignition, then wondering why your car is gone in the morning.
Have you ever wondered just how many "undiscovered" exploits exist in Windows? I mean you only really know about those that are found and published. So update Windows until your blue in the face, still does not mean you are secure. Case and Point - Windows 7 Beta has already had TWO security updates and still leaves the UAC unpatched (despite it being patched in every version of Windows since 2000). What does that tell you about how much Microsoft cares about your security? - luchid, on 03/09/2009, -0/+1@raydeen: Except AVG is not free if you use it in your "customer's" machines.
- klowngoblin, on 03/09/2009, -0/+1antivir is at the top of the detection charts, guess what, its FREE.
Eset AV being an extremely close second (i use eset personally) - jgtg32a, on 03/09/2009, -0/+1AV would have been cheaper
- klowngoblin, on 03/09/2009, -1/+2Norton is a Virus in itself letting other viruses through,
the IT people before me at my job were stupid enough to purchase symantec for their file server, it did do a ***** thing when this trojan hit. useless peice of *****.
symantec should die just like bose and monster cable. - Dagolith, on 03/09/2009, -1/+2You can't embed binary into a jpeg. No picture will give you a virus. There may be a hitbox over the picture, or something like that, but you can't put an executable into a picture.
It's not just "Significantly less" it's 0. I don't even use AV software. I run a check for malware about twice a year. Always clean.
Once again you CANNOT get a virus by opening a jpeg. I think what you did was open up *****.jpeg.exe -
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