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- doiveo, on 12/02/2008, -1/+195or "Racist laptops think all Asians look the same."
- cerealjynx, on 12/03/2008, -0/+41Two eyes, check.
Access granted. - Dietrich, on 12/03/2008, -1/+34It's got nothing to do with asians, it's the fact that if you print out the appropriately sized picture of an authorized user the web camera is stupid enough to think it's actually them.
- DiggzDE, on 12/03/2008, -3/+22Dugg for the truth. :D
Omg, look over there, its Jackie Chan! - shadowspawn, on 12/03/2008, -4/+23My pop told me: Locks don't keep thieves out. They keep honest people honest. He showed me how to open just about anything. No, he wasn't a criminal, he was a mechanical engineer. In his spare time he liked to tinker with things, find the flaws, make them better. I picked up on his knack.
I think this is just a fad, that's all, because someone in marketing came to engineering and then the board after watching minority report too many times.
There are easy fixes to this, additions that wouldn't take any more time for the end-user, and would extrapolate the difficulty in breaking it. - ParanoydAndroid, on 12/03/2008, -0/+16extrapolate: To infer or estimate by projecting known information.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. - n3demonic, on 12/03/2008, -0/+14Bad day to be a pirate. Great day to be a ninja.
- ayeroxor, on 12/03/2008, -0/+10This is a toy. Real, robust facial recognition requires the user to smile or blink to prove it's not a photo.
- Grazfather, on 12/03/2008, -0/+10Regardless I'm going to use this as proof all asians look the same.
- inactive, on 12/03/2008, -0/+7"Yeah, I'm totally gonna hold a second camera up to the side of my face, wait 10 seconds for it to register, and then log in."
You'd actually only need two cameras just slightly separated from each other to achieve the 3d, stereoscopic view. It'd be like an electronic set of eyes in front of you. None of this holding up to the side business.
And in 20 years, you'll be saying, "Yeah, I'm totally gonna lift up my hands and manually type out something for 2 seconds...or I could just look at the screen and be instantly granted access." - Mordemox, on 12/03/2008, -2/+9Dugg for the funny. :D
- jheimark, on 12/03/2008, -1/+7is anyone really surprised that a laptop's pinhole-camera is fooled by a printout of the person's actual face?
obviously, securing a copy of someone's face with a camera is much easier than securing a copy of someone's thumbprint (silly putty will do the trick). - Osirus1156, on 12/03/2008, -1/+7Hey, your Ethan Hawk!
- Jsoul87, on 12/03/2008, -0/+5I want Colbert to read this.
"Easy to fake my face? Hah! We all know you can't fake perfection..." - ElGanyan, on 12/03/2008, -1/+6That was a joke?
- cluckinchicken, on 12/03/2008, -1/+5Being Asian, I'm offended by these laptops. Who the f**k do they think they are?
- WestonP, on 12/03/2008, -1/+5The whole problem with biometric security is that we're basically using "passwords" that we're broadcasting for the whole world to see, and relying entirely on the flawed belief that someone else wont figure out a way to use that password that everyone knows. Nothing will ever be 100% secure, but I'm still far more comfortable with a good old randomly generated 8 character text password.
- Phearce, on 12/03/2008, -0/+4Maybe he meant exaggerate?
- ileftfark, on 12/03/2008, -1/+5"Are you Apu's cousin?"
"No."
"Are you Apu's cousin?"
"Yes."
"Finally!" - forcedfx, on 12/03/2008, -0/+4I think you're looking for the word exasperate.
- ParanoydAndroid, on 12/03/2008, -0/+4enumerate? exfoliate?
- PabloMac, on 12/03/2008, -0/+4Exponentiate.
- houndeyex, on 12/03/2008, -1/+5Yeah, I'm totally gonna hold a second camera up to the side of my face, wait 10 seconds for it to register, and then log in.
...or I could rattle off my password on the keyboard in about 2 seconds and be on my way. - ErickStevenson, on 12/03/2008, -0/+3I think he was being sarcastic....
- ethana2, on 12/04/2008, -0/+3I don't know why they're digging you down; my laptop has stereo mics, no reason it can't have stereo webcams.
What you said is _the correct_ solution. - nelsonuwp, on 12/03/2008, -1/+4This is what happens when you act like a jackass
- ayeroxor, on 12/03/2008, -0/+3Yeah, I'd like to get video of my target looking straight into a webcam and blinking and then going from a plain face to a smiling face and back to a plain face.
I think I'll just ask...? - alperea, on 12/03/2008, -0/+3This type of security only puts the user at risk. The bad guy won't look so weird to his buddies when he says "I want his face.... off".
- Lynxplus, on 12/03/2008, -0/+2All I read was.... "Click here for more of Dong's stories from abroad".... and then I was disappointed when the story was about technology.
- Harabeck, on 12/03/2008, -1/+3Couldnt you just use another laptop playing a video then?
- Ellipsys, on 12/03/2008, -0/+2A simple, though slightly cost enhancing fix would be a small IR sensor on the webcam as well. A picture of a face does not have a heat signature. A face does. If someone is willing to take the time to fake a properly dispersed heat signature of a human head/face, they're far above the kind of security a "friendly" access control like this can provide. Thermal image capture would be advantageous in this respect, without requiring additional measures on the user's behalf.
Okay. Fine. Want a bonus for adding this technology to laptops? True night vision porn. There. - inajeep, on 12/03/2008, -0/+2Was your father named Tempest?
- shinsplints, on 12/03/2008, -2/+4\_/
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Will this give me access? It looked better on the paper I drew it on. - int19h, on 12/08/2008, -0/+1Brainwave recognition now!
- shinsplints, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1Can you have glasses on?
- fuhcough, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1amen randpass.com
- aladrin, on 12/03/2008, -2/+3A video... In response to on-screen prompts? That's getting pretty elaborate at that point.
- Typhoon2009, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1or let's just keep using retinal or thumbprint scans.
- Grazfather, on 12/03/2008, -2/+3What if you got your ass kicked so badly you were no longer recognizable, and you were too far from a phone to call the cops, and you had to quickly send a twitter for help, but your ***** up face wouldn't let you log in, then the guy who kicked your ass finished you off?
It's just not worth the risk. - NOFXY, on 12/03/2008, -2/+3what if they just included 2 cameras so it could "see" in 3D? and then maybe asked you to say something so it would know it's not a mannequin. seems reasonable.. kinda.
- richofsilence, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1I work with biometrics, and out of the 3 main ones we use, facial, fingerprint, and iris, the facial ones are by far the least accurate. Irises all the way!
- inactive, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1Your mom is easy to fake.
</4-year-old> - ServerNotFound, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1"I guess I'll just have to continue to keep my finger clean and dry at all times." ---lol, I'm saving this quote.
- BrokenVisage, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1Close.. it's exacerbate.
- ACiDGRiM, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1if you had left off the last 71 characters it would have been funny.
- ichibanjay, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1Couldn't they just make it so instead of taking one picture for authentication, you roll your head from side to side (like when you gesture "no" with your head) while the software takes a quick video; then it can build a flattened globe-like picture and analyze that? Would be much more secure and not that much harder for the user...
- replaysMike, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1what did you say about my face?
- Harabeck, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1Getting those expressions would just require a video chat with them and then some editing. If the prompts are randomized it could be a problem to get them them to match up, but if the prompts are the same each time, it would be fairly simple.
- tylerni7, on 12/03/2008, -0/+1IR sensors that detect infrared from heat emission are very expensive and very big. They would be cool, but at least for now that isn't going to happen. At least not at a resolution where you could actually use the heat signature of a face to tell it apart from another face.
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