21 Comments
- misterpony, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Privacy pitfall?!? Is that NYTimes spin or stupid indifference?
This isn't a pitfall, it's a total disaster--and a scam if the credit card companies knowingly issued these without encryption. The cc issuers should be recalling every one of these immediately and paying for ID theft protection. What a bunch of idiots. - stevesearer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Call me crazy, but I've never thought that swiping a credit card was very difficult to do. Why do people want to change?
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"You just wave your dongle and it magically knows what you bought, apparently."
There's a good joke in there somewhere.... - Feanor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Umm this isn't that kind of privacy...this is the kind of privacy that keeps your money from being stolen from someone within a few feet of you. They don't have to steal your wallet to get your private information, all they have to do is stand there and let their little device do all the work. So, unless you go around with your credit card information or SSN written right on your shirt, I think you would appreciate a little bit of encryption.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5giving up my bank account is a little more serious to me than giving up my privacy
- anasazi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i have some pretty thick paperback books, and then again i have some very tiny paperback books.
what a crappy way to describe a distance - GnuTzu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Under the guise of less regulation, the government is more likely to write laws that protect corporations then they are to protect consumers.
So, don't hold your breath for any laws that would make corporations liable for identity theft--even in the face of blatant negligence.
In fact, corporations will use new technology as an excuse to escape the regulations that currently exist and place all responsibility on the consumer.
The only hope is for people to stop buying products with poor security, but I don't see much hope for that. Microsoft has long been criticized for its poor attitude towards security, but I still find myself forced to use Microsoft products just so that I can earn a living.
Eventually, everyone will have to have the new credit cards, and the consumers will have to suffer the consequences. Corporations aren't likely to bear the burden for any of this. - sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Even if this technology was as insecure as the authors contend it may be, you DO realize that the burden of cost falls on the credit card companies right?"
Only if the fraud is detected. Many credit card users do not thoroughly review all their transactions after the fact. If the crook steals small amounts they could slip through the cracks in many cases. - nrbelex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Hahaha, you didn't even bother to change the title:
http://digg.com/security/Researchers_See_Privacy_Pitfalls_in_No_Swipe_Credit_Cards - gharding, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The commercials make it look so easy, like you never have to ring up your items. You just wave your dongle and it magically knows what you bought, apparently.
- testcase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Geniuses.
You know, it puzzles me how large organizations can spend millions of dollars on product development over the course of years, and yet still make such *basic* mistakes.
If anyone has an answer to that question, I would like to hear it. - testcase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Move to Linux.
- fronkman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2what a stupid FUD article. you people do realize that "old style" credit cards have you name, CARD NUMBER and expiration in "plain text" embossed on the surface of them right? Your name and last 4 digits of the card are also printed in "clear text" on the receipts that people seem to toss in the garbage on the way out the door.
- mousky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have to agree with you. This 'research' was funded by RSA, you know, the encryption company. Besides, how many people hand over their credit card to a complete stranger? How many people give their credit card information over the phone?
- stevesearer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Commuting 4,000,000 paperback books to work each morning when my car gets 2,500,000 paperback books to the gallon is not fun
- ElBruelsio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@ cliffzdude
So if I buy a car that has defective breaks that cause me to get into an accident I shouldn't worry because I can sue the manufacturer for the cost of my hospital bills, right? Everybody should keep buying their car because it has a built in iPod port and leather seats, right? - mogoi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1That guy on the left looks like David Foley. He does!
- cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2The article states a concern regarding the security of your credit card on such RFID enabled credit cards, NOT IDENTIFY THEFT.
Even if this technology was as insecure as the authors contend it may be, you DO realize that the burden of cost falls on the credit card companies right? Each and every one of my credit cards offers a $zero dollar liability for fraudulent use. I've had credit cards stolen out of my mail box and somehow activated. My liability? Zipola. Nada. Not a ***** cent.
Something tells me this article is more hype than reality. Think about it, you are by law limited to a $50 hit if your card number is stolen, and MOST credit card companies now limit your liability to ZERO. Given the risk to the issuers, I think I'll lean toward thinking this article is pure hype for now. - ElBruelsio, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0This is true. However I don't wear my credit card on a chain around my neck, do you?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -17/+1Giving up your privacy is no big deal unless you have something to hide. I suspect most if not all privacy advocates are breaking the law in some way.


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