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- Yatti420, on 10/28/2009, -6/+160F*** THE RIAA!!
- rkenned, on 10/29/2009, -0/+122Personally, I don't think its that they don't know anything about BT, but instead its that they only present evidence that is favorable to their desired conclusion. Companies like that aren't paid to find out what happened, they are paid to prove whatever the hell their clients want them to prove.
- FlyingSquidwolf, on 10/29/2009, -1/+95You can swear on the Internet, your mother probably isn't going to read it.
- MonochromeNight, on 10/28/2009, -2/+92Haha, awesome. Please digg this, everyone has to know about this ridicolous *****!
- Trifold, on 10/30/2009, -0/+82THESE NO GOOD KIDS AND THEIR COMPUTER BOXES!!! THEY ALL GET ON TO THE GOOGLE AND STEAL ALL THE MUSIC!!! THEY OWE US ELEVENTY BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!
- taketheleap, on 10/29/2009, -1/+47These anti-piracy organizations are effin stupid.
If you are going to build a business around something, you'd think you would try and learn all that you could about it and then keep up to date on the trends, changes, etc.
These companies are the equivalent of starting a bank and not paying attention to the fluctuations in dollar values around the world.
Idiots. - brucealmighty, on 10/29/2009, -5/+44The Sarah Palin business model...?
- smack1700, on 10/30/2009, -0/+34These guys are great, I just love that they're making millions off the incompetence of the recording industry.
And yes, consultants often just tell their clients what they want to hear. Think about Management Consultants that corporations hire. After the consultant investigates the organization and its problems, do you think they'd go into the room full of VPs that hired them and say "The problem is you're all overpaid and don't add any discernable value to the bottom line at this company."
Of course not, they'll list plenty of other problems and strategies not regarding the incompetent executives. Why? Because they want to keep getting paid. - JAGUART, on 10/30/2009, -0/+32and you want them smart because why again?
- taketheleap, on 10/30/2009, -0/+25I 100% read that in the voice of Bill Cosby.
- naner, on 10/30/2009, -1/+25I really ***** doubt it.
- pigfister, on 10/30/2009, -1/+22
lets not for get who is actually behind the MPAA - RIAA, these are the companies that need to be targeted and boycotted into changing their ways, purchase only 2nd hand media and do not purchase anything branded sony, why allow the fecktards to dictate Orwellian hardware DRM designed to take away rights not to stop piracy anymore.
Name and shame the companies as all the **AA trade group name is for is to protect the corporate globalists from bad press.
RIAA, CRIA, SOUNDEXCHANGE, BPI, PRS, IFPI, ASCAP, Ect:
# Sony BMG Music Entertainment
# Warner Music Group
# Universal Music Group
# EMI
MPAA, MPA, FACT, AFACT, Ect:
# Sony Pictures
# Warner Bros. (Time Warner)
# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)
# The Walt Disney Company
# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)
# Paramount Pictures Viacom—(DreamWorks owners since February 2006)
====================================================================
If Sony payola (google it) wasn't bad enough to destroy indie competition you have this:
Is it justified to steal from thieves? READ ON.
RIAA Claims Ownership of All Artist Royalties For Internet Radio
http://slashdot.org/articles/07/04/29/0335224.shtm ...
"With the furor over the impending rate hike for Internet radio stations, wouldn't a good solution be for streaming internet stations to simply not play RIAA-affiliated labels' music and focus on independent artists? Sounds good, except that the RIAA's affiliate organization SoundExchange claims it has the right to collect royalties for any artist, no matter if they have signed with an RIAA label or not. 'SoundExchange (the RIAA) considers any digital performance of a song as falling under their compulsory license. If any artist records a song, SoundExchange has the right to collect royalties for its performance on Internet radio. Artists can offer to download their music for free, but they cannot offer their songs to Internet radio for free ... So how it works is that SoundExchange collects money through compulsory royalties from Webcasters and holds onto the money. If a label or artist wants their share of the money, they must become a member of SoundExchange and pay a fee to collect their royalties.'"
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/24/14132 - Tbags, on 10/30/2009, -0/+16you kno digg blocks it unless you sign on, you don't have to censor yourself
- merreborn, on 10/31/2009, -1/+17Even if his mother is going to read it, who ***** cares?
- samurimaster, on 10/31/2009, -0/+15Probably his mother
- Redzin, on 10/30/2009, -1/+14If there was any consequences for swearing on digg, I'd have known them by now. ;)
- inactive, on 10/30/2009, -0/+12Good. The less they know about piracy, the less they can do to stop it. I'll be worried when the RIAA partners with people who know what the ***** they're doing.
- bigsheldy, on 10/30/2009, -0/+11Don't they get it? Even if they are able to take down TPB (hopefully not), they will have only gotten rid of one website. I feel like the "pirate" community is much stronger and bigger than one website and no matter what they do we will always find another way to distribute files.
- doshindude, on 10/30/2009, -0/+10It's great that they know nothing about BT, that means they don't know how to stop anyone!
- BlackJackJester, on 10/31/2009, -0/+9I like the Y axis on those graphs. The first one doesn't have one, and the second always adds up to 100%. These outfits are jokes. They're basically marketing companies that sell ice to Eskimos.
- iBleeedOrange, on 10/31/2009, -0/+8Alright gramps, i'll get off your lawn.
- TheVirus, on 10/30/2009, -1/+9So the people that are behind this will learn to note waste their time and money on a fight they cannot win. It's false claims like this that cause court cases to fall in their favor and cause the prosecuted to pay tens, even hundreds, of thousands of dollars.
- hotdigg, on 10/30/2009, -0/+8> These anti-piracy organizations are effin stupid.
No, they are effin smart! They have figured out an easy way to pirate actual money from big media! :) - Vaiper, on 10/30/2009, -0/+6It's nice to live in a world where someone can boss everyone around and write rules regardless of whether or not they know what they are talking about. It pays to be a tool.
- RK5000, on 10/30/2009, -0/+5It looks like the RIAA is getting swindled . . .
- srt4b, on 10/31/2009, -0/+5WTF when I loaded this page Chrome suddenly downloaded "http://web.maikongs.net/lepwprquo/xd/pdf.pdf" and Microsoft Security Essentials cleaned it right away.
Anyone know where that came from? - antbs, on 11/08/2009, -0/+4dude you got it wrong it's ***** THE RIAA!!
- aaron117, on 10/31/2009, -0/+4ftw.
- dragon0196, on 10/30/2009, -1/+5No.
- ISellSigals, on 10/30/2009, -0/+4They are so clueless.
- bdbr, on 10/30/2009, -0/+4Reminds me of all the laughter of the incompetence of the prosecution in the TBP case...but they still won. Keep in mind, they're generally presenting this so-called "data" to people who know even less than they do.
- Blaqjak, on 10/31/2009, -0/+4Same thing happened for me. Using Chrome and MSE too.
- Charlie1er, on 10/31/2009, -0/+3What?? The end of Napster totally means the end of piracy!
/s - Charlie1er, on 10/31/2009, -0/+3Don't copy that floppy!
- nyxerebos, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3It's of some concern that these people will be charged with collecting evidence for use in court and RIAA shakedowns. They're not just incompetents, they're incompetents with money and power behind their futile crusade.
- Iceman21, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3Yeah another effort idea that will fail like every other.
- Rioracer916, on 10/31/2009, -0/+3Oh, you mean like the U.S. Congress?
Don't get me started, it makes the bile rise up my throat thinking about how people who are willfully ignorant of technology make crucial decisions about its future. Net Neutrality comes to mind. - tomato1324, on 10/31/2009, -0/+3yay so now that the pirate bay is down and bittorrent usage has apparently dropped by 80% </sarcasm>, that means the RIAA can take their heads out of their asses and focus on more important things like say, how bittorrent has helped raise concert and music festival attendance by like, a million percent.
- DaviDTC, on 10/31/2009, -0/+2I think with a new account the profanity filter is already turned off. They only have that in there to protect themselves if they need to or if it gets completely out of hand by a user.
- fattony89, on 10/31/2009, -0/+2piratebay going down didn't affect my downloading one bit. clearly these people have no idea why torrents are so popular and so hard to get rid of.
its like when the DEA celebrates of a "huge" bust of drugs all the while majority of people never notice and the busted amount is usually insignificant compared to the overall amount that gets in. - zambuka, on 10/31/2009, -0/+2And they have managed to achieve this because so many of the big media companies are still under the impression that simply slapping the words "on the internet" to the end of their business models will magically make their business viable in the digital world.
- hydrodev, on 11/09/2009, -0/+2I guess all this talking about it is a bad idea then. Maybe we should try to keep a lid on it next time
- dmage333, on 10/31/2009, -0/+2I got the same pdf download yesterday randomly, and I've been trying to figure out where the hell it came from... i'm on OSX, and use FF3.
- JohnnySoftware, on 10/31/2009, -0/+1Well, regardless of what that company does/doesn't know, RIAA is intimately aware of BitTorrent, its author, the problem abuse (and it is abuse) of it by pirates poses, and how to deal with pirates in a multilayered response utilizing civil courts, acquiring user logs through legal means, tracing Internet traffic, acquiring DHCP history to determine who probably owned an IP address at a given time, seeding of torrents with corrupt files, etc.
Meanwhile, there is a music pirate on trial in a $2 million dollar penalty civil suit.
Might be a good time to fall in line and buy songs at iTunes or pay the $5 to $20 sticker price for CDs at the store or Amazon. That, or save up a $2 million music budget.
Sure, there are consulting companies who will write up lame studies that come to the conclusion you give them but people who have been in business a while or who have followed the computer trade press for any number of years are well aware of this. These studies are taken with a grain of salt. - haikuFU, on 10/31/2009, -0/+1I was thinking about this the other day.... one of the ways they determine what IP is involved in bittorrent is to actually download the torrent and start sharing it. They rely on TCP connections from other hosts, which they log and investigate. A TCP connection is stateful and requires a 3 way handshake to become established. It would be very difficult to spoof your source IP using TCP (though it could be done if you had an ISP and an upstream provider which had some lax controls in place)
However, if bittorrent used UDP, it would be very easy to spoof packets that you sent out as coming from another source. If bittorrent clients had the option, they could make it a damn nightmare for these companies to get reliable data. Additionally, if the bittorrent clients used UDP over multicast, and clients were joining multicast groups, it would be possible to send out and receive data pretty much anonymously. The problem with that is some ISP's do not support multicast (although many major ones do), and most cheapy firewalls don't support it (so you would have to connect your machine directly to the net or get something that support multicast).
Multicast for BT would be friggin awesome. It would reduce the bandwidth required on provider networks, and allow a greater degree of anonymity for senders. - cjlesiw, on 10/31/2009, -0/+1I know, because she's too busy being ***** by me.
- Genma, on 10/31/2009, -0/+1hm oh they provide ***** evidence to support their usefulness to the mafiaa, what a surprise.
the only replacement trackers that the internets "scrambled" to find was a seamless transition from tpb to opentracker, which is still up btw. - Iceman21, on 10/30/2009, -0/+1This is not a battle, they lost whatever battle there was a long time ago, a smart group would have realized the stupidity of what the riaa are currently doing and stop doing it.
- rblancarte, on 10/30/2009, -0/+1And people wonder why anti-piracy measures are so ineffective. These guys barely have a clue on what they are dealing with, it is very little surprise that they can't combat it.
- Rioracer916, on 10/31/2009, -0/+1I wonder how many people were laid off at the RIAA due to "the economy" so that they could afford to hire those empty suits and pay them contractor rates.
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