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- IgorUnchained, on 06/29/2009, -0/+28It is funny what Iran will riot in the streets over......and what Western societies have been putting up with for years without raising their voice.
Even Honduras had a coup to keep the president from instituting dictatorial powers. I wonder when people are going to get fed up in the west enough to at least organize a decent protest. - GovernmentsGun, on 06/29/2009, -2/+28Very similar to free speech zones here in the US.
- mytealjacket, on 06/30/2009, -1/+22I was roped in just like this at a protest about 4 years ago here in the states. They trapped us like that for about 2.5 hours and wouldn't let anyone leave.
People had to pee on the street. - rawnzilla, on 06/29/2009, -4/+24***** the police.
- pigfister, on 06/29/2009, -0/+19There was accounts of police provocateurs at the G8 whom were witnessed by an MP.
http://m.digg.com/world_news/G20_police_used_under ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/10/g20 ...
fta: An MP who was involved in last month's G20 protests in London is to call for an investigation into whether the police used agents provocateurs to incite the crowds.
Liberal Democrat Tom Brake says he saw what he believed to be two plain-clothes police officers go through a police cordon after presenting their ID cards. - SalmonGod, on 06/30/2009, -2/+16You mean you can leave those zones when you've got all that free speech out of your system. They're not optional if you wish to continue protesting. Nice try.
You've seen pictures of them, haven't you? They look like giant cages. The people inside look like prisoners. - pigfister, on 06/29/2009, -9/+22FTA: "They said frontline officers must be given discretion to allow some people to escape highly-charged events."
so the police get to choose who to let out of the kettle!
Buried for sensationalist headline!
BTW the policemen involved with Ian Tomlinson's death still have not been arrested!
watch google "taking liberties"
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3351275 ...
watch schfilms "Oon the verge" (free download) the film the police tried to ban as it shows them colluding with a weapons manufacturer to silence peaceful protesters.
http://www.schnews.org.uk/schmovies/index-on-the-v ...
EVERYTHING IS OK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGA9ZUEa3ZY&fea ... - banski, on 06/30/2009, -2/+15I'd rather have the police kettling me than tea bagging me
- SalmonGod, on 06/30/2009, -1/+13In Greece a cop kills a kid in front of a few witnesses and the entire country is shut down for weeks.
At the same time in America a cop executes a man helplessly pinned to the ground in front of dozens of cameras, millions of people watch these videos online, and we get a few news stories and windows smashed.
So disappointing. - zyklon, on 06/29/2009, -1/+11Kettling is almost synonymous with entrapment.
- Protonz, on 06/30/2009, -3/+12The police are protecting the politicians. The politicians are not going to limit their power.
- positron, on 06/30/2009, -2/+11in theory
- SalmonGod, on 06/30/2009, -1/+9My personal thanks for having the guts to put yourself in that position.
- EddiePotato, on 06/30/2009, -1/+8They should start tickling activists instead. Total submission within 30 seconds.
- EddiePotato, on 06/30/2009, -0/+7But I've been waning for years!
- SEN5241, on 06/30/2009, -1/+7For a second there, I thought the headline said,
"Police told: stop 'killing' activists."
I thought this was something good about to come out of Iran. - LuckyScofield, on 06/30/2009, -1/+7They are the police, of course they suck. There is a reason 'Police State' is a bad thing. It's what you get when you give someone a gun and power who got picked on in school.
- SalmonGod, on 06/30/2009, -0/+6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Grant#Analysis_ ...
"The District placed Mehserle on paid administrative leave following the shooting, but Mehserle resigned the Wednesday after the shooting."
"On January 5, 2009, Mehserle's attorney postponed a scheduled meeting by BART investigators, seeking to defer it until the following week. BART Police administration and investigators did not allow this and commanded him to attend an investigative interview on January 7. Mehserle did not attend. Instead, his attorney and his BART Police Officers Association union representative arrived and submitted his resignation letter."
"On January 30, Judge Morris Jacobson set bail for Mehserle at $3 million.[3] A week later, with the help of fundraising from the police union,[44] Mehserle posted bail.[45]"
"Before Mehserle retained Rains, Rains told the Associated Press that it could be difficult to prosecute Mehserle for murder because the law discourages "second-guessing and hindsighting" of police officers, who tend to be favorably viewed by juries.[60]
Mehserle is facing up to life in prison if convicted of first-degree murder.[61]"
So basically after the incident he was offered a free vacation. Instead, he quit and eluded investigation into the incident. Finally he was arrested, but his fellow officers raised $3 million (!!!) so he could walk free. He's on trial and could be severely punished if convicted, but it looks unlikely.
If you've watched video of the incident, there should be no doubt in your mind of what happened. This guy is getting a pretty royal treatment and will probably avoid punishment despite having obviously murdered a father as he was pinned to the ground, defenseless. If this kind of evidence were mounted against a common person, they would already be serving their sentence. - reallytoughguy, on 06/30/2009, -0/+4Why has this comment been dugg down? Sure it's written in CRUISE CONTROL, but it's a pretty fair assessment of one of the reasons why police use kettling tactics. Although I would add that the main reason police use these tactics is to demoralise and intimidate protesters. The fact is when people are intimidated and scared they are much more likely to kick up a fuss. This is a delicious bonus for police, who can then arrest a bunch of people, thus justifying their presence at protest rallies.
- com2, on 06/30/2009, -0/+4Comin straight from the underground
- Mike17102, on 06/30/2009, -1/+4You should love cops, they keep people like me from beating the stupid out of people like you.
- redgiemental, on 06/30/2009, -0/+3Yes that's what all protests are.
Not civil rights or war..... - logir, on 06/30/2009, -0/+3Shouting. It hurts my eyes. Dugg down without reading.
- Cybrwolf, on 06/30/2009, -1/+4Pittsburgh is already a kettle. Boiling over!, Let's just see what happens this summer!
Me thinks some rich, elite yahoos, are going to get a taste of the Iron City's "finest cuisine." - redgiemental, on 06/30/2009, -1/+4Isn't the whole point of protesting to interrupt people's daily lives?
- GamerXR72, on 06/30/2009, -0/+3@IgorUnchained
When unemployment skyrockets and we become a police state.
And dont give me this sensationalist ***** of "It's already skyrocketing!" or "We're getting there." When I say skyrocketing, I mean 20% nation wide. When I say police state, I'm talking mass raids on colleges.
Eventually we'll get there, but we aren't anywhere near mass riots. Mabey if Obama's policies fail spectacularly and we start having food shortages and rationings, but certainly not before then.
A well fed and entertained people are a people who don't care. - bubba9999, on 06/29/2009, -1/+3Allow Free Speech and the Terrorists Win!
- EddiePotato, on 06/30/2009, -1/+3Police have had limited power in the US for over 200 years.
- EddiePotato, on 06/30/2009, -2/+3Especially if you're married to one!
- SalmonGod, on 06/30/2009, -0/+1I wish! I have two kids I have to support. It's just too much risk, especially since my 4 year old is diabetic. If I didn't have more immediate responsibilities, I would have hit the road a long time ago. It's a conundrum though, because I know lack of action by myself and countless others like me is only inviting greater long-term dangers for everyone. It kills me to sit at work every day and read about consolidation of corporate power and environmental destruction moving ever closer to the tipping point.
- LeepII, on 06/30/2009, -1/+2A man is murdered by the cops in cold blood, and they call the G20 crowd control "highly successful" WTF?
- SkaVanker, on 06/30/2009, -0/+1On another note. That has to be the worst web typography I have ever seen. Whats up with all the paragraphs?
- dienaked, on 06/30/2009, -0/+1LOL
- mytealjacket, on 06/30/2009, -0/+1Next time join me =)
- Pixelante, on 06/30/2009, -0/+0It's "afro-pot" and "afro-kettle" now.
- mikemehak, on 06/30/2009, -1/+1This is like the kettle calling the pot black.
Not really, but I like to use that saying even if it doesn't fit. - HonoredMule, on 06/30/2009, -1/+1Speak like a paranoid nutjob and people will think you are one.
Speak intelligently and offer some sources or at least material for research/background reading, and people might take you seriously. - Mike17102, on 06/30/2009, -2/+2You are confused.
People that got picked on in high school end up spending their lives on digg. - Pixelante, on 06/30/2009, -2/+0Cops are the only thing that stops me from slicing your face away, wiping my arse with it and then stitching it back on the wrong way.
- skinny01, on 06/30/2009, -3/+1But a big protest in america will be much more serious. We're full of guns and ammo, when we protest, it's going to be big, not just a bunch of yelling and molotovs. So you pick the battles. If we go to the levels of some of these other countries protesting, it'll turn into a MUCH bigger bloodbath because American citizens have much more potential to become lethal.
- Mike17102, on 06/30/2009, -4/+1No.
You dont have a right to ***** with other people. Nothing is worse than a bunch of jobless ***** on some crusade to save the Spotted ***** Worm of South Zambi shutting down a freeway to spread word about their cause.
You have a right to peaceful protest, and that means not ***** with other peoples daily lives. - nepidae, on 06/29/2009, -13/+8Killing 1 person at a demonstration is a proven method of keeping people in line, a much better option than kettling.
- Deeh, on 06/30/2009, -7/+1I was thinking about this and I thought what if demonstrators picked two meeting places close to one another, and went back and forth between them, making it difficult for police to encircle them?
- jasongbc, on 06/30/2009, -10/+2Police are *****. Every dead cop saves at least one life.
- alamedaman, on 06/29/2009, -9/+1can't talk to the pot anymore I guess
badum psh! - jgubbe, on 06/29/2009, -25/+14POLICE DO IT TO CAUSE ACTION BY THE PROTESTERS. HOPEFULL FOR VIOLENCE TO ERUPT SO THE POLICE CAN JUSTIFY THEIR CURRUPT ACTIONS AND MAKE IT APPEAR AS IF THE CROUD WAS NOT PEACEFUL RATIONAL PROTESTERS.
RIP BILLY
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