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- Malakin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's easier to just turn off autorun.
- amigiac, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Putting anything into a CD drive apart from a CD is pretty stupid. No Digg for bad advice.
- dodger2020, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not to mention that even a small piece of tape could make the disc off-balance. That could potentially make it a VERY noisy disc and even screw up the cdrom drive (rare but possible).
- yensed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I remember doing something similet to this Back In The Day to Tapes so you could copy the tape to another one.
- mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They might as well make it official and say that purchasing a CD is only purchasing the physical disc itself and a revocable license. That is what a "play-based" model would be.
License vs. Ownership
A movie ticket is a revocable license. You paid for the right to watch the movie.
Ownership
You buy a soda. The soda belongs to you and cannot be taken back.
Originally, music was ownership - you buy the record/tape and the right to use it how you please (with certain copyright limitations). If your record got scratched or your tape was eaten, too bad. You OWN it.
If the industry wants a "play-based" model, it had better be willing to provide free replacements, as a license would require.
Personally, I think someone needs to invalidate "shrink-wrap" licenses (whereby you agree to terms that you have not read) - hyperation, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Almost like the other Sony DRM crap where you just use a marker and mark part of the cd to disable the security.
- hemidurango, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So, we just add a tax to tape, like Canada and other countries charge on blank CD media and then give the proceeds to the artists. :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1But what about people who purchased these albums specifically for the advanced features? While that piece of tape is good for joe blow who wants to immediately rip the cd to his harddrive, it doesn't solve the problems faced by the average user. I have friends and family members who still purchases CDs. They shouldn't have to deal with this garbage.
- digason, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Remember the Celine Dion 'next gen' copy protection"
The fact that it's Celine Dion should be protection enough. - Llan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why does it say the DRM is controversial? I think everyone but Sony is against it, so where's the controversy^^
- mrkoje, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1On another note regarding autorun... I heard, I think from TWiT, that when the EULA pops up, the DRM software is already installed but just waiting for "so called confirmation" to run.
Autorun sucks... I like to be in control of my computer. - jhd121, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Can't you just decline the license agreement and avoid installing the DRM software?
- Snarfy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's the same as the magic marker trick. The tape will keep the software from installing, but if the software is already installed it will still recognize the CD as protected, tape or not.
Also, there are two standards for enhanced CDs. Audio session then data session, or data session then audio session. If you use a magic marker, and depending on the type of enhanced CD you might wipe out the last audio track. Also, attempting to magic marker the data part of a data/audio CD will result in a completely unreadable CD as the TOC is located right before the data session.
AFAIK non of the DRM'd CDs use the data/audio method (they are all blue-book "CD-EXTRA"), but they could... - WraithFX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So, what your saying is that you bought a Celine Dion and then wanted to know how to break the copy protection?
- shawnwaite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe someone should make an "insert" for the CD carosal, and ever time you popped a CD in it would "mask" that portion of the disk. -- just thinking outloud.
- j0c1f3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0when will ppl learn....all we have to do is eliminate the fn middleman who is taking all the money anyways. If Google/MS/Apple would just take some of the pocket change they have and just buy all the music companies. Then offer the music at a much lower rate, everything would be fine but, instead we keep feeding those fn greedy bastards who keep suing soccer moms for what their 8 yr old child does......as long as we keep allowing greedy people to be in control....we must expect this behavior.
- bordo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Works great! Just put about a half inch of scotch tape around the edge of the CD, colored it black with a Sharpe and stuck it in. Windows saw it as a plain data CD. Eat it Sony.
- Livewired, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I put a CD in my drive that had a small chip taken off the side. As the 52x drive wound up, the cd exploded. Pieces came out the front. There are still chunks of broken CD in that drive. Don't put unbalanced discs in the drive!
- Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can't I just use my sharpie?
- moose_diggs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Its all a buncha BS... the movie and music industry knew all along their products were going to be "stolen".. they hoped on the digital bandwagon in order to upsell old and stale content and somehow make it brandy new** ..so now they want to figure out some way to "license" its products..pffft gimme a break...the pirates and consumers have always been 2 or 3 steps ahead of the RIAA and they always will.
BTW .. yes the marker trick will work but as previous posts have stated its not the most reliable..and HELL NO I never purchased listened to or actually touched a Celine Dion CD.. I was refering to the supposedly at the time "uncrackable" copy protection HA HA HA - unclejesse0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Technology foiled by simple lo-tech thinking once again!
- Pebcak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Doesn't this mean that tape should now be illegal per the DMCA, since it is a tool for circumventing copy protection?
- MossFly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i thought this old news... i could swear Leo did this on Techtv.
bchow you are right that Non-DRM disc are the way to go :) avoid the Dumb DMCA all together.
And Buelldozer a Sharpie could kill your cd if you are not careful
and you guys right disable Autorun!
to those of you who need one now how
remove any cd from the drive because the icon will stay "as it is" Once autorun is off.
start > run type "regedit"
the key is in the cdrom folder and its Autorun double click it and change the value from 1 to 0
and restart
here is the path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesCdrom
good posts people - c.trinity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"""But the analyst advised that, instead of limiting what users can do with music they have already purchased, record labels should focus on tracking this use.
This would enable a "play-based" model where users are charged a fee based on how they consume music.""""
WTF?We pay for the music and then be charged again?
What kind of crap is that?
I will start listening to the wind instead. - kris2per, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Who knew the old technique still works!!! Did that procedure way back but the drawback is that you can't get all the tracks of the album!
- kikta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It amazes me that Sony even tries anymore...
- sneakerelph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Doesn't this mean that tape should now be illegal per the DMCA, since it is a tool for circumventing copy protection?"
yeah, just what i was thinking. ILLEGAL! dugg! - Psykus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0While autorun is generally a bad idea, turning it off breaks certain features of other programs. Like iTunes for example, if you have autorun turned off, it can't detect when you put in a music CD, you have to manually go back to the desktop and then to iTunes for it to recognize the CD.
- moose_diggs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Remember the Celine Dion "next gen" copy protection ???
It was bypassed by using a marker on the edge of the CD I think??
Digg, brings back memories - bossm4n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If tape will work, wouldn't a Sharpie work as well? I agree that using tape is a bad idea. How long before you fry your CD drive?
- Trjn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Is it just me, or wouldnt this mean that the marker around the edge solution would work on the DRM CDs as well? I mean, they say the tape is to cover up the data layer, so surely the marker option does the same.
I'd try it, but I haven't got a single legitimate CD in my house, much less a Sony one, and to be honest, tis not worth the money to find out. - longofest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Permanent marker will also work on this too. It is the same idea. Make the data track unreadable so the computer skips to the music track
- mattcohn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Putting anything into a CD drive apart from a CD is pretty stupid. No Digg for bad advice."
Then use a Sharpe instead. This is the same workaround that came out a couple years ago... just tape (or draw) over the data portion of the CD, Mr. Computer Head won't be able to read it, so it'll just skip to the music and play it like an ordinary audio CD. - Bananas21ca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I dont get why they are worryed about people copying cd's, I can just get the same music off the internet without the stupid DRM. Just making criminals out of everyday citizens.
- riot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0who is promoting these 58 day old articles to the main page
- longman2g, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0does anyone else out there see why sony did this? millions of their songs are being stolen and they are trying to do something to combat that. They did something probably illegal and shouldn't have done it, but the idea of charging for how you use the songs isn't a bad one. You don't own the rights to the song, you buy the right to play it on your own devices not to send it to all of your friends or burn it to 10 cd's and give it away.
- NickelSax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Let's make it easier. Force all who make OSes to add a feature to their OS that when a cd is inserted that contains data and audio tracks, it blocks the data track by defualt and tells the user that there is a data track, tells them if the data track has autorun on it, and gives the user the option to:
Block the data, block the autorun but allow access to data, allow the autorun. And have a setting to remember the option for that cd, for all cds or just that one time.
Include in this prompt that the data track(s) could contain potentially harmful software and advise that if it was bought as a music cd to block the data.
While it may cause a slight annoiance to some, it will provided some protection to the masses from things like this rootkit... - joejoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I could be wrong but Turn off Autoplay may not work. If you look at the Note section in the GPO it states.
"Note: This setting does not prevent Autoplay for music CDs."
I don't have any Sony CDs w/DRM to test. Just putting it out there for those that may think there are safe by tuning off autoplay. - Kashey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Permanent marker will do the job better.!
- Eric4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0My brother has had problems ripping a CD with DRM. We managed to find a VERY old CD-Drive that didn't read the DRM. We can rip any DRM CD now without problems. It's very slow, but hey, at least it works.
- nyno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Man, this proves once again that ducktape fixes everything."
It's duct tape, man. Just imagine what the animal rights protectors would do if the tape were made of ducks... - hellsyeah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0known about this for a long time, just use a magic marker around the edge.
- VesperDEM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The problem is trying to retrofit audio cd tech with protection. It's like trying to retrofit MP3 files to have protection. No matter what you do, either the file won't be an MP3, or it won't be protected.
There will need to be a new audio format in order for it to be safely protected, not like that helped DVD's any. :)
What's the saying? "Data just want's to be free." - longofest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Man, this proves once again that ducktape fixes everything
- Kericr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have turned to piracy as a form of protest. I simply refuse to buy CDs from artists whos music I enjoy (or even not so much) who also agree to allowing the record labels to put this crap on their disks. The Foo Fighers are a perfect example. I have every CD of theirs sitting on my hard drive, and I never listen to any of them because of the DRM crap they put on their disks.
- Wolfman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0All I have to say is... AllOfMP3.com, whether or not it's legal, sticking it to these *****, is what we need to do.
- hax0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0someone needs to write a program for lightscribe drives so you can put one of these discs in the drive upside down and let the lightscribe laser burn out the DRM! I wonder if that's possible.... but I agree with above, better to just not buy any copy protected discs, or any Sony products for that matter.
- PseudoCyborg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How old is this technique?!!?! Boo-urns.
- orangetiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Bust out them exacto knives kiddies, it's arts & crafts time. Why not just make a template, or use that clear cd scratch protection stuff, make a template, and off you go. just like martha stewart, but in a black zipper hood.
- mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Here's the best idea possible:
Support your local indie artist. Buy your CD's direct from the artists at shows that you go to. Artists make their most money through touring and it's a great way to show your appreciation.
The best artists are those who view sharing as free airplay. Sony (them again!) already admitted to payola earlier this year. MTV was originally a legal payola model, which is why all the smaller artists were on shows like 120 Minutes and Headbanger's Ball, shown in the 1AM to 5AM timeslots.
If you really want to get at RIAA, it's real simple: don't buy CDs from large labels.
Also, if you must buy large-label CDs, find a good, used CD store. Your money will help a small business owner AND you will have the satisfaction of not fattening too-fat fatcats.
Officially, I do not advocate bootlegs. But if your "friend," who RIAA might like to call a bootlegger, lets you "borrow" his/her CD for, let's say...forever, and you "donate" some money to your "friend," why do we really need to talk about boots and legs.
BOYCOTT LARGE LABELS!!! SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL ARTISTS AND RECORD STORES!!! -
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