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- sublimer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+46Hope you guys add the list.
and no, it won't blend! - treetree888, on 10/12/2007, -1/+41just because they see an IP within a range that blocks them means nothing. That persons computer could simply be shut off, and would not raise a red flag, as you seem to think.
Yes, I am a PG2, and internet privacy fanboy. //lockdown - haker0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25they are being integrated into the P2P blocklist used by PG2
unfortunate timing i suppose that the update servers are down today
phoenixlabs cannot verify the authenticity of any unofficial lists so PeerGuardian users should use them at their own risk
-haker0
phoenixlabs staff - rbrowder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23So...for the sake of sounding dumb. Do I just go into PG2>List Manager>Add
Then put something like MPAA Tracker, the following URL:http://www.sublimestylee.com/other/mpa_trackers.p2p , and then Block? - AmishJedi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Because they were discovered only recently?
- rsampaio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18I've been using peerguardian forever, saves a heck lot of my bandwith!
- Sakumi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21I mean is it even legal to put a file online, call it something (that it's not), have someone download it,l then sue them for downloading it, when it in fact wasn't even the real 'illegal' file in the first place? What grounds is the lawsuit on? I just don't get the point of what they're doing here. Fake trackers, and fake torrents, do nothing but.. waste bandwidth.
- sublimer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12i was on my site www.sublimestylee.com and saw that there were 66 users currently online. normally its like 6-7. so i thought someone was playing a trick, until i checked digg again.
thanks for making this my first front page item! - whiterabbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12No problem.
- rarkai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Yup, that is all there is to it.
- HeatVision, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Awesome, thanks.
- gdragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Yes it is legal. It's the same as an undercover cop selling baking powder and then arresting the guy who buys it for "intent to purchase cocaine". What the MPAA and RIAA are doing is called a "muddy water tactic". If the lake is full of crap, less people want to swim in it. It's a very affective technique on those that can't tell what a fake file/tracker looks like.
- rarkai, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Correct PG link is:
http://www.sublimestylee.com/other/mpa_trackers.p2p
for people who copy pasted:
http://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-caught-uploading-fake- torrents/
like i did. - sirmasterboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Why can't you claim that you knew it was a fake file and that you intended to download the fake file, knowing all a long that the data wasn't copyrighted.
- firstaid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Hello, I am firstaid from the bluetack forums; I would like to confirm that these ip's are all in the bluetack lists but one of them if you have the current up to date lists.
66.177.58.XXX
66.177.0.0 - 66.177.127.255
Comcast Cable Communications Holdings, Inc. JACKSONVILLE-3 (NET-66-177-0-0-1) 66.177.0.0 - 66.177.127.255
The comcast range we do not block, these fake trackers can change at any time they want. For this kind of attack on p2p we have developed a list called the templist. Now our servers are down atm, but the link normally is, http://www.bluetack.co.uk/config/templist.zip or http://www.bluetack.co.uk/config/templist.gz
these kinds of reports are always welcome. If the range continues to be anti-p2p it stays in the list, but as you may know, comcast customers periodically change IP addresses so blocking them permanently is not that good of a solution. If we kept every comcast report in our main level1 list soon the whole comcast would not be able to connect, I don't think that is what anyone wants. The best way is for people to report them so we can get them into the templist or if bad for a long period of time into our level1 list. The main thing is to inform yourself about our lists, from that point you can decide if you like them or not, you always have the option to remove/add something if you want, our lists are just a starting point to block what we recommend.
Comcast has been reported before with bad torrents close to these ip's but it is not limited to these ip's. Another isp in California is sbc witch is also shown many antip2p activities.
I know people are concerned that our server is down atm, we are working on getting it back up so that people can get their lists once again.
PS: we were working on a list of allot of newly allocated ranges that had been in bogon/IANA ranges to remove them from our servers iptables shortly before we encountered our server problems. Please do not assume we are blocking people on purpose when you do not know the facts behind the case. It is common to block ranges that noone should be coming from. Sometimes it takes a while for a server admin to get them out of IPtables. Sometimes people need to be blocked for being childish and then go around saying we block everyone.
firstaid
- msgyrd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Another comment from a person that doesn't know the difference between theft and copyright infringment.
- haker0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"well, ok. But i tried to ping those ranges and they are being blocked for me already."
yes according to a source at bluetack (the creators of the blocklist that PG2 uses) 4 out of the 5 ranges were blocked by PG2 since even before this report
-haker0
phoenixlabs staff - 8fans, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8PG...it couldn't hurt.
- Syphon0928, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Ive been getting these errors recently. I hope the links get fixed.
- haker0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"Which is better, Peer Guardian or Protowall?"
from a phoenixlabs staff member my opinion is biased but i think its fair to say that PG2 is more user friendly - Onechrisn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6While "intent to purchase cocaine" is a crime that is on most books "intent to break copyright" isn't one that I've ever heard of. I think in this case you could argue that there was no crime....
- haker0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Risk? What's the worst that could happen, you block a good peer and get a slower download?"
yeah its called a disclaimer ;-)
if you give that update link to PG2 then the person hosting the list can add whatever he wants to it in the future
including but not limited to sending out an update like 0.0.0.0-255.255.255.255
-haker0
phoenixlabs staff - killinger777, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5well, ok. But i tried to ping those ranges and they are being blocked for me already.
- BeefBaron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Which is better, Peer Guardian or Protowall?
- Aeiri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"phoenixlabs cannot verify the authenticity of any unofficial lists so PeerGuardian users should use them at their own risk"
Risk? What's the worst that could happen, you block a good peer and get a slower download? - blampen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4From the looks of it peerguardians servers are feeling the digg effect. Cannot check for updates
- m4v1s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They are not, but that does not mean that there are not corporations out there trying to protect their copyrights. Peer guradian also has completly legitimate uses, such as HTTP spam blocking, even more reason why everybody should use it.
- m4v1s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4stealing is not fun, but sharing sure is!
- CaffeineAddict, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yah, but if everyone contributed like you say ... it would open it up to the same problems that wikipedia has. I mean, we all love wikipedia ... but there are consulting firms that are payed to make sure certain pages are spun certain ways ... for instance pages that have to do with politics.
Whats to say that RIAA wouldn't just go in there and fck the list up by adding in a bunch of bogus ip ranges to the black list and a bunch of there servers to the white list? - chr1831, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5-DELETED-
- Idigg4shit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You should really give PG a second try. To see why read this study which stated that:
"Analyzing over a 100 GB of TCP
header data, we quantify the probability of a P2P user of
being contacted by such entities. We observe that 100% of
our nodes run into entities in these lists. In fact, 12 to 17% of
all distinct IPs contacted by any node were listed on blocklists.
Interestingly, a little caution can have significant effect: the top
five most prevalent blocklisted IP ranges contribute to nearly
94% of all blocklisted IPs and avoiding these can reduce the
probability of encountering blocklisted IPs to about 1%."
http://www1.cs.ucr.edu/store/techreports/UCR-CS-2006-06201.pdf
for html version try this link:
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:tyLrmIs6qLwJ:www1.cs.ucr.edu/store/techreports/UCR-CS-2006-06201.pdf+is+big+brother+watching+p2p&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3&client=firefox-a - deafmute, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4well, they tell your isp about it, and then you get a letter, which is supposed to deter you, and get your isp mad at you. if it happens again the isp with be asked by the *AAs end your service, which prevents more theft from occuring.
isps dont know the files are really fake and rather then facing legal trouble, they just end your service. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i'm a bit of a noob on this - how do i add the list? please step by step instruction - i can't find the list,which the post way above mentions off.
- whiterabbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I mine as well provide it in ipfilter.dat format for programs such as uTorrent and others:
066.172.060.001 - 066.172.060.255 , 000 , MPAA TRACKER
066.177.058.001 - 066.177.058.255 , 000 , MPAA TRACKER
066.180.205.001 - 066.180.205.255 , 000 , MPAA TRACKER
209.204.061.001 - 209.204.061.255 , 000 , MPAA TRACKER
216.151.155.001 - 216.151.155.255 , 000 , MPAA TRACKER
Add that to your ipfilter.dat file in %appdata% uTorrent directory and make sure the IP filter is enabled in uTorrent settings. - trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3PeerGuardian 2 for OSX is a great alternative for the Mac.
- LtXenodite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Good, time to add this to my list! =]
[secures area] - thebaron2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3sublimer beat me to it ;)
- sublimer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3ok. its pretty easy. im assuming you have pg2 installed and running. well, click on the PG blue circle icon next to your clock. Of go through start, all programs, PeerGuardian 2, then click on PeerGuardian.
Ok. Now, click on List Manage. It should be the second button from the top, on the left hand side. This is a list, of all the list of IP's to block.
Then, click on Add at the bottom, near the middle.
In the middle box titled Location, it defaults to the Add File radio button being selected. Change it to Add URL.
Then in that input box, put in http://www.sublimestylee.com/other/mpa_trackers.p2p
Lastly, make sure the Block is selected, not Allow. That would defeat the purpose.
Hit OK, then close out the List Manager using the X in the menu bar. You should see your lists update.
Hope this helped! - bobcrotch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Blocking ICMP traffic, that doesn't mean much really.
- tsbardella, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Firstaid - Thanks so much for this comment I sure appreciate the information. I made may donation today after I went to the site looking for why the thing failed....
- kalleanka, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I'm running SafePeer for Azureus, could someone who knows say if I'm blocking these IP:s by automatic? Or can I take steps to block those?
- jus1haz2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5wtf... no their not.
- jakefloyd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@floejoe
Where can I find these mirrors so I can download the list myself? - haker0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"hey, hacker0, is phoenix labs trying to fix the issue limited account users have when trying to open pg2?"
this is not the place to ask this type of question
if you ask on the forum or our IRC channel then i would be happy to give you the answer
-haker0
phoenixlabs staff - mrmatchgame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just loaded the ip in PG2 and in seconds detected the MPAA. Not downloading any movies but that scared the ***** out of me.
- reticentnz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://lists.blocklist.org/ has a few old lists. It might be suitable to use until the bluetack lists are sorted.
- trombonist15, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Many bothans died to bring us this information.
- sam8988378, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1you could always specifically block the IP's on your firewall
- Daniel591992, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1thanks :D
- foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1hey, hacker0, is phoenix labs trying to fix the issue limited account users have when trying to open pg2? this issue also makes it impossible for pg2 to start with windows. :(
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