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- iamtad, on 04/16/2008, -0/+44That's coding by the lowest bidder.
- Tyfud, on 04/16/2008, -1/+33Bah, and they wait until 2days after to tell us. I was going to send off for 10,597 credit card applications.
You know those sex offenders have got to have some serious credit limits. Ice cream and candy's not cheap. - Olfster, on 04/16/2008, -1/+30Ok I will let everyone in on a little secret. Your SSN is not secret. Ever own a home? Ever been part of a civil case with a creditor to which you gave your SSN. Ever filled out an application and supplied your SSN. Here is my point, walk down to your local court house and just ask to see some civil cases, anyone can do this. Better yet walk to the recorders office and look at recorded mortgages but load of secret SSNs there. Your SSN is not secret. Your address is not secret, your name and location is no longer secret. Welcome to the USA where states like Wisconsin let the whole world, crooks included, know who you are in the comfort of your their own home/country.
- superchunkWii, on 04/16/2008, -1/+23I am completely dumbstruck at the level of stupidity in the group of people that created that website.
- Jmkdsmboy, on 04/16/2008, -2/+20Man, Oklahoma has had a couple of rough months lately.
- Midtowner, on 04/16/2008, -0/+15This is pretty bad... but really, Oklahoma's access to public information beats the living hell out of most other states. In fact, right now, not only can I look up every single inmate in the prison system (for free) and be able to see what they were convicted for, see a recent photo, etc., I can also look at all the court dockets. I can see everything filed in cases. I can download images of court filings (again, for free). Oklahoma's online policy, except for when the programmers screw up, is very forward thinking. I don't have to rely on the newspaper to tell me what's going on in a case -- I can see for myself without having to go to the courthouse, pouring over the court file. Sunshine is the answer. Online access to public records is a good thing. The social security numbers? That'll be fixed. Encourage your own states to look at what we have here. It's good stuff.
- gigitrix, on 04/16/2008, -2/+16OK this is just sick. You just know they should have tried a DROP or TRUNCATE statement....
- RomeyRome, on 04/16/2008, -2/+14People wonder what I don't want to work for the state. I don't want it to lower my IQ.
- codyodell, on 04/16/2008, -0/+11.. in square miles
- elizabethb221, on 04/16/2008, -4/+14I'm so proud to live in Oklahoma...
- DivisibleByZero, on 04/16/2008, -0/+10The Texas sex offender registry is currently offline for maintenance. Want to bet they had the same bug?
- jer2eydevil88, on 04/16/2008, -2/+11Nothing will ever top the Tuttle Oklahoma City Manager versus CentOS emails.
http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?sto ... - Wiini, on 04/16/2008, -4/+12I agree... it's pretty poor programming but by the letter of the law, this guy hacked the site by passing manipulated string input to access non-public information.
Just because someone made it 'easy' (most the dummies on Digg couldn't do it) doesn't mean Oklahoma "leaked" anything. way to go, hacktard. - xxgigavirusxx, on 04/16/2008, -0/+7its ok!
Cause they have clean water! - NetPyro, on 04/16/2008, -0/+7You mean why? Why you don't want to work for the state?
- amdforever, on 04/16/2008, -1/+7Who the ***** exposes a SQL QUERY IN THE URL?
That programmer is truly a stupid, idiotic, and incompetent human being. - Wiini, on 04/16/2008, -2/+8Yeah.. Good call.... It's JUST like that. just like an open directory in which you have to submit a simulated SQL Query and alter it's query to match what you hope to be the database' internal structure.
Again, hacking. That's like saying "It's an open directory if I brute force it!". Dumbass. - InfamousAtheist, on 04/16/2008, -2/+8True - but the average douchebag (and there are plenty of them in OK and other rural states) doesn't necessarily know how to protect their credit. You and I know how to place fraud alerts, or hire a service to do it for us, with the credit bureaus. Joe ***** probably doesn't because it can be a major pain in the ass, particularly for someone who doesn't know much about technology and finance. The ***** state of Oklahoma (and retailers, and anyone else who stores such info) should be held liable for any damages these people suffer since the state failed to protect the information necessary to commit identity theft.
I would like to see some other method of identification used or stricter limits on the ways creditors can issue loans, open bank accounts, etc. in people's names. Our SSNs were never intended as an identification tool and now that they have turned into that, the whole system's ***** up and we see people's lives getting ruined because of it. - RomeyRome, on 04/16/2008, -1/+7See. Those 2 years I worked for the Federal Government have already taken their toll.
- howser2007, on 04/16/2008, -2/+7Oklahoma...always on Digg for something we do wrong.
- tchynerd, on 04/16/2008, -0/+5You know you guys DID vote Bush governer
- Midtowner, on 04/16/2008, -0/+5Yeah... someone set off a bomb in downtown OKC. That's hilarious. I heard it go off and knew people who died there. *****.
Terrorist attacks are not punchlines. - tj111, on 04/16/2008, -0/+4I woulda just done something like "DELETE FROM registration_offender_xref x, sor_last_locn_v lastLocn, sor_offender o, sor_location l WHERE o.social_security_number = '###-##-####';". Just rinse and repeat with some selects to check and you can clear your record.
- reyalp, on 04/16/2008, -1/+5The way the rest of the world feels about Americans is the same way Americans feel about Texans.
- goflyers, on 04/16/2008, -0/+4It would be interesting to see what privileges were granted. The mistake was bad enough as it is but if the account had more than SELECT privileges then you have to think that not only are the web developers incompetent but also the DBAs and probably the whole department.
- 2oonhed, on 04/16/2008, -1/+4.........in the butt.
- Olfster, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3As an identity theft victim myself I grant you there is no doubt that the system is f'up, but people should not be conned into having to guard there SSN through products sold by companies such as the Big three and their special chosen minions. The identity theft prevention market is a fraud perpetrated by those who sell and spill the details themselves. The sooner we all realize that the quicker lawmakers can amend their prior errors in law and hold them truly accountable. Good points.
- imdandman, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3We also passed a bill last year that lets the public know exactly where every single one of their tax dollars are going. Whether it's tax credits for companies or state appropriations. We have some of the best open records laws anywhere.
And yes, state contracts usually go to the lowest bidder - but one screw up doesn't make the whole system bad. - roflomg, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3Damn. We could use Brad Edwards right about now...
- Olfster, on 04/16/2008, -0/+3All the more reason that only specialized people should have access to this information at the appropritate level. There is the possibilty now that some people will be labled sex offenders and have no idea that they are labled as such even if they are not such. They also may never become aware of this. This only show even more so why public information placed on the internet can be more damaging than helpful. This is the major problem with the Wisconsin system. You may never be considered for a living wage job or position again and never be able to determine why. The scarlet rose gets a shade rosier.
- NeoNevermore, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2Incompetent indeed. I doubt that there are any IT security staff in that department. And if there are any, they should find a new profession.
- roflomg, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2...in alcohol content *hic*
- DivisibleByZero, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2Yeah, the law needs to catch up to speed a little bit in these cases. What he did was probably technically illegal, but given the circumstances it was the only way to stop the bad code. In the end, the negligent coders should be the ones held accountable.
- Dysl3xicDog, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2you forgot to add
/SARCASM - Corr0sive, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2At least we have a city in the top 10 best drinking water...
- InfamousAtheist, on 04/16/2008, -0/+2That's how most states do business... How do I know this? I sell them software.
- DivisibleByZero, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1The original query string retrieved the social security number, but didn't actually display it. So there was no guessing about the database's schema, just a re-ordering of values so that the SSNs would be in one of the displayed columns.
- PDAIsAOk, on 04/16/2008, -2/+3Dammit home state, stop screwing up
- solid12345, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1As usual Oklahoma is being ***** on because we are in the news for something negative again. Nobody ever said what a bunch of hicks those people in Massachusetts were because they had a 15 billion dollar bridge kill someone and go half a decade past schedule. Incompetence exists everywhere.
- solid12345, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1Exactly, I think as a citizen I have a right to know if I am living next door to a felon or a sex offender and what he looks like. God knows how much stuff never get reported in the media as is.
- 2oonhed, on 04/16/2008, -1/+2Canada is a place where all the people have pac man heads and when they talk? The entire top half of their heads move up & down, up and down.......oh and they have been poised to attack America for quite some time.....any day now.......any day.
- sheebz, on 04/17/2008, -0/+1I would be very suprised if the web site used live data. If it did, that would be an epic WTF. More than likely, that data is aggregated via feed/snapshot, so I imagine you would have to do that every time they updated their records. But who knows, looks like they definately have some morons over there.
- roosterjm2k2, on 04/16/2008, -1/+2Considering it was sex offenders, I wouldn't feel bad...
- solid12345, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1 I actually enjoy Oklahoma, the property value is low, it is more quiet, Tulsa is still more cultural than Kansas City, Joplin, and even Dallas.
- CarzorStelatis, on 04/16/2008, -1/+2Damn, I was expecting to find a story about stolen submarines :P
- mcse2k3, on 04/16/2008, -1/+2Who cares if the offenders had their information available to anyone? If someone wants your SSN and information bad enough, they will get it. It's not a secret anymore!
- Olfster, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1I just want to clarify some of the comments that I replied to. When I say that the information should only be available at the appropriate level, I do not mean blocking publicly available information. I mean making it a little more difficult for the thieves to get at. Not placing the information online for the world to access. Whether that be criminal records or property tax assessments. I know of numerous county level systems that do not allow public Internet access to their information. You have to walk in and get the information.
- killbert24, on 04/16/2008, -4/+5Quick... everyone in Oklahoma cancel your credit cards, change your name, and move to Canada.
- Dumbledorito, on 04/16/2008, -6/+7Oklahoma, where the fraud comes sweepin' down the plain
And your credit score will sure feel sore
With fifty charge cards maxed out in your name! -
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