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- goat77, on 10/12/2007, -6/+46If you don't know now, you'll never need to know.
- redxii, on 10/12/2007, -23/+53Remove WGA v6.06
http://www.ubuntu.com
... sorry, had to do it. Just wanted to get it out of the way. - TheOneGreatX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31which makes next time that much more fun and interesting.
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -4/+275/10 of my friends have absolutely no problem using WGA *with* a pirated version of XP. No problem downloading and installing SP2, or DirectX, or any of the downloads now "protected".
Anecdotal evidence works both ways. - jefffm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24My valid Windows XP cd key doesn't pass WGA.
Refuted. - kimos, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23Read the page... It talks about valid uses for this tool.
Phoning home is complete BS and if most people actually understood what that was all about they'd try to stop it too. Not to mention all of the valid keys that are reporting as invalid. - teh_toaster, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22The exe: http://www.firewallleaktester.com/tools/RemoveWGA.exe
- spitfire6006006, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22what good wouldn't it do?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19Um. WGA..is gone I thought.
CBTF: Actually 5/10 of my friends that have a legal XP Key cannot do updates, or couldn't before. They had to install cracks. So no, it's not just for people downloading Windows XP. - 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19By circumventing every attempt Microsoft makes at making people not use its software without paying you're just guaranteeing that their next method will be even more debilitating and intrusive.
- kikibun, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23What rational do people have for putting WGA on there machine. At best, your apps will conue to work (i.e: it does absolutely nothing); at worst, your OS refuses to boot. What possible gain comes out of that?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14You just have to get a CD key from a known good corporate source.
I own XP Pro, but I use a pirate copy because I change my hardware about so much and don't like having to contact MS once every 6-8 weeks to explain why I need yet another activation code thingy! - dharm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13"Orrrrrr, you could buy a license."
ya, and still be plagued with numerous false positives which give you the annoying wga block crap - gbm85, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Microsoft themselves have said that about 50% of users with an invalid key have no idea and no malicious intent.
- rushfan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11If people would refuse to allow themselves to be intimidated by ridiculous EULAs and just tell software companies like MS that they can stick their product up their butt if they're going to reserve the rights to do whatever they want to your computer, crap like this WGA wouldn't happen in the first place.
- dharm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10according to MS themselves, 1 out of 5 PCs fail WGA
of that 20%, 20% of them arent due to piracy. (thats 4 out of 100 PCs)
at my work, we have legit copies on some of our workstations. On one, wga kept failing, so we ended up installing a crack to get rid of wga... instead of having to call MS several times. - heavyd14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Well, it was a "critical" update, it wasn't very clear as to what it was, and many people have their computers set up to automatically update. So really, they didn't do it by choice.
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"Legal, free, works until next summer."
I can agree on the first two points, but I'm having trouble imagining Vista "working" in the truest sense of the word. - citrusfizz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8you know.... you could keep windows xp... no one, even Microsoft, is forcing you to upgrade or migrate
some food for thought - MaXsteri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6'Yes...you are right---20 out of 100!'
Reread the post. To me it says 20% of 20. Which is indeed 4 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I use pirated copies of windows, yet I have a legit copy for each computer.
The reason I use pirated copies, is because I dont like the bundled ***** that is sold with my computers. I like to have a raw copy of windows, and piracy is the only way to do it.
= - Flagg3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@citrusfizz
"you know.... you could keep windows xp... no one, even Microsoft, is forcing you to upgrade or migrate"
At least until they decide to stop releasing security updates for it, making an upgrade mandatory.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
People who pay full price for Windows XP this year, could potentially have a product that Microsoft will no longer release security updates for 2 years from the release of Vista.
This is how Microsoft forces people to upgrade now. At my company we were forced to upgrade our Windows NT Servers. Not because they stopped working, but simply because Microsoft refused to release security updates anymore. You can't even pay for support. They have already cancelled mainstream support for Windows 2000 as well, and will cancel paid support in 4 years.
So yes, Microsoft does force people to upgrade to products that they don't want, or need. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6a lot of crappy techs have reformated peoples pcs and have used a pirated key just out of laziness.. after all not long ago it didnt matter. Now a lot of people who have real xp are having problems.
It isnt pirates this really hurts as they can easily find ways arround it.. it is the normal legal user that is most likely to have problems, - shawnz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7well, if you remove WGA, all you're doing is breaking it until you try and get another windows update -- unless you mean WGA notifications, which are a whole other thing. no where did i see "notifications" here.
- tokyoturnip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4How about using the method as detailed by MS on how to disable?
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=921914&SD=tech - BarleyWind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Nope there are cracks that allow full updates.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Well..that's interesting because (at least a month ago) no one with a blacklisted Windows XP key could get into Windows Update without a crack. So those 5 friends must have had a crack.
I am sorry my "evidence" wasn't scientific enough for you. - heavyd14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You need WGA, but you don't need the WGA notifications, you can just hide that, and use the tool from this article to remove the notifications "Tool" you already have it.
- Escamillo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Actually, there are other things that now require a Windows "validation check" before you can download them; various SDK tools, WMV encoder tools, etc.
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I don't support piracy. I use a legal copy of XP, courtesy of my school's license with MS. I've never had a problem with WGA.
- skatingrox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Bleh. My father got XP as a result of a site license at his office. No trouble with updating/WGA here either. It seems corporate/educational keys always pass the WGA test.
- SYSDmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3at the moment you cant use the windows update website, but critical updates will still automatically be downloaded, so really...theres no downside to running a pirated copy, unless you really want ie7 or wm 11...but other than that pirate away
- salmonmoose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Except, going by the post, 3D is needed, being a 3dsmax user I'm bound to windows, and DX, and DX 10 is only supported by Vista, so I am going to be forced to use it.
And as 3dsmax doesn't run on WINE nor an intel apple (yes they're not 100% compatible) I can't switch.
Mind you, I don't have any problems in Windows (since, I actually pay for decent hardware) so my urge to switch is pretty slim. - richbradshaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You can get WGA to run under wine, if you are having problems running it.
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The mafia style "your computer may be at risk" messages (AKA "thats a real purty computer you got there... shame if something should happen to it") force you to upgrade.. eventually the upgrades will stop..
It's built in obsolescence - I'm not being cynical, It's simply an unfortunate standard marketing practice for poor practice companies like MS. - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6If MS don't get rid of their DRM, I'm not getting vista.
It's straight to linux - Maya is now on linux, so it really only leaves the adobe/macromedia (adobecromedia?) monolith to migrate now - but i'm sure M$ has some sort of axis of eveil with these guys... - t4inted, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"People who pay full price for Windows XP this year, could potentially have a product that Microsoft will no longer release security updates for 2 years from the release of Vista."
that's gonna be a loooooooong time :) - MegaSilver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Exactly.. how many other people here have gotten calls or emails from friends and family about how their computer says they may be a victim of software piracy and how do they stop the message. "You're the 'computer guy', you know how to fix it, right?"
- volcompimp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What momma doesn't know won't hurt her - The Waterboy
I like to think the same goes for my relationship with Microsoft. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2it isnt pirating. long as you are licenced you can use any media you choose. you can call microsoft up and they'll ship you replacement media for like 15 bucks.
despite the crap dell gives its new machines, a clean install with their cd does in fact do a clean xp install, nothing else. unfortuantely none of the drivers work either so it takes another hour to install all of that ***** as well. - doolittle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@shawnz
There is always autopatcher.com, the most convenient tool for a fresh XP install is now a monthly security rollup for those who don't trust MS anymore.
Next month is a "full" autopatcher version, with the current release you have to get April, May and June updates installed respectfully. - citrusfizz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4or you can completely state the odious which has been discussed all ready at least 5 times now..
some more food for thought - TheFast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It would be too easy, and Microsoft just can't have it this way. Nope, they've gotta have their notification update harass even the people who actually do have a valid license. So no, getting a new and completely valid license would only result in someone wanting those notifications to go away even more.
- heavyd14, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Ok, so you download a clean copy of TPB, but what is stopping you from using the key slapped on the side of your case?
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1'BRILLIANT!'
Its odd to see Microsoft though to offer the evil they put into the millions of Windows
users systems.
Its like saying 'Here Mr. Fox, I'm not giving you the key to the hen house, but if you
should happen to need it, here is a key maker.' - shawnz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1TheFast: you're generally meant to decide if the article is worth clicking from the title and description.
- heavyd14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Again, that is only WGA, not WGA notifications. They are not the same.
- volcompimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Consider this... You have a laptop with a license key on the side for home and you've got a pirated copy of XP Pro which you've either downloaded or someone gave you but the home key doesn't work. Do you use the volume license key or waste time and bandwidth searching for and downloading a pirated version of XP Home so you can use your key?
- LordSkywalker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3This isn't as good as MuBlinder.
- doolittle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@flagg3 wrote "People who pay full price for Windows XP this year, could potentially have a product that Microsoft will no longer release security updates for in as little as 2 years after the release of Vista."
For XP Pro, that is not true. Read the MS Lifecycle FAQ @
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy
"17. What is the Security Update policy?
Microsoft has not changed its Security Update policy:
Business and Development software
Security updates will be available through the end of the extended support phase (five years mainstream phase plus five years extended support phase) at no additional cost for most products. Security updates will be posted on the Windows Update Web site during the mainstream support phase, and during the first two years of extended support. In the final three years of the extended support period, Microsoft will continue to post important and critical security updates on the Microsoft Download Center Web site."
So XP pro is patched until 2012.
However, XP home is a different story:
"Consumer, Hardware, Multimedia, and Business Solutions products
Security updates will be available through the end of the mainstream phase."
You are correct for XP home, it will stop having security updates 2 years after Vista's release. -
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