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- TokenUser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8How soon people forget the $1.5M (yes MILLION) bar code scam against Walmart. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1748274,00.asp
- mushoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Nah he's a ***** retard. Any moron knows that an iPod is worth more than $4.99. He could have done it with some other less noticeable merchandise several times, taking care not to repeat any given item too many times. Later on get rid of the merchandise at a profit. When he had enough cash, he could have just walked in and bought. Sure it would have been more work and taken longer, but nothing is free. Even the crackhead that steals your car stereo has to do some groundwork and some running after-wards to get the sweet rocks he so much craves.
- aggrazel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Its not amazing the security guys at target picked up on that. They ring the ipods up at the electronics counter in most targets and the cashier probably knows that an ipod doesn't cost $4.99. This kid is an idiot and I hope he gets the cavity search from a former biker dude with big hands.
- Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I get my ipods with a Five-Finger Discount.
- TheDecn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I used to take advantage of printed barcodes at Target, but not to steal. A lot of times Target will put video games on clearance but not update the price on the shelf. So I would go to Half.com, get the UPC from the listings, then generate the barcodes and print them in Word. I could then scan the barcodes at those Target price checker things to see what the "real" price was in the system. This was a lot easier than asking a Target dude to take them out of the case and scan them, they get pretty annoyed after the 5th one. I never thought to stick one of these codes on another game and get it for cheap, but wouldn't have done it anyway. Don't believe in stealing.
- TheDigger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This story is totally blown out of proportions - it's about a petty crime ($300), and the only thing different from a "regular" one is that he used a "sophisticated technical tool" called bar code generator ;-)
He deserves a second chance, especially if this is his first crime ever. I would let him with a warning and some kind of community service deal. Anything else would ruin the young kid's life...
So...give him a break, will ya? - DigitalAnarkist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"What iPod is $150?"
The iPod Shuffle. - KingJeremy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Every time someone is caught, people are like, "OMGZ WTF STUPID RETARDO!!!!" As if they are some criminal mastermind. Pretty crafty, even if the kid got busted.
- MrMysterious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What iPod is $150? Doesn't the stupid kid realize that an iPod for $150 is a steal by itself?
- matts0344, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"He targeted the female clerks thinking they were not tech-savvy
A victim of his own chauvinism...NICE!"
Not really since the female cashiers didn't catch him, the security guard reconized him. It was actually quite a good idea to go for the female cashiers. - adammerkley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I know how this kid felt, I'm sure he is honestly sorry. Having the cuffs slapped on you is a terrible feeling. He thought, as I once did, that he wouldn't get caught, and kept getting ballsier and ballsier.
- WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"I did this not knowing of the serious penalty that lies behind it. Please! Please! Please!"
Guess he does now. LOL! Hopefully they put him in with Tossed Salad Man. - evanfrey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Might work just fine at a self checkout
- TheWino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2how is the kid an idiot!? give him an A for effort!
- exorcet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2quote: "Greed, a deadly sin"
on behalf of Apple or the kid? - laughterkillsme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If a security guard says "hey you" run. I learned this in like 7th grade ohk .. pigs can't climb fences and rent'a'cops don't get paid enough to.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3what we need are people to go into random stores and slap low-priced barcodes on random merchandise.
if it's done enough, and becomes a BIG problem, then it's the store's problem and you won't get in trouble for checking out an item with a flase barcode.
"hey man -- iPods don't cost $4.99"
"geeze, you guys need to get a handle on this barcopde problem" - pocketmonster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3hmmm... wonder if this will work for beer? :)
- lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Kinda self-evident, but this'd work much better if you used the barcode of a lower-tier product If you pasted the code of a 30GB iPod barcode onto a 60GB box, even those bag checkers at the exits of a Best Buy wouldn't catch it.
- Roger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What an idiot. Shoulda made it $100, not $4.99. That scam coulda lasted years.
- halophoenix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"pretty amazing the security guys at Target picked up on this!"
what's amazing about it? What cashier in their right mind would let an iPod go out of the story when it rang up for $4.99? They'd be on the phone with their manager faster than you can pull that barcode back off! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1People are WRONG
- mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He targeted the female clerks thinking they were not tech-savvy
A victim of his own chauvinism...NICE! - orangetiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1At least make the price a little more believeable. And there's plenty of barcode makers. Corel has one in the Draw Suite.
- modifiy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"pretty amazing the security guys at Target picked up on this!" The security at target is very good. The one I worked at had one of the craziest theft detection setups around. The police would normally call our store to talk and give photos to security to have them keep on the look out for people with warrants and notify them if the entered the store. This kid was stupid for more then one reason.
A. Every register has a camera above watching ever item scanned at the register.
B. Everything that gets rung up at the register is recorded and shows up on that camera recording, so they can see if the worker "accidentally" (sometimes these misses weren't an accident and were the persons friend or something) missed the scan on something or if it was rung up wrong.
C. Cashiers at my old store I know were trained to watch for this especially with electronic items. People got caught quite a few times for trying this with PS2s and Xboxes, its pretty easy to tell when it rings up as 29.99.
D. He made the charge a felony by forging the UPC codes, which if he really wanted to steal it he should have just ran out with it(he had a better chance of doing that), if he would have been caught that way it would have been a misdemeanor since its under $500, at least in my state it is. This is really nothing new but really it serves him right. I'm glad they didn't go easy on him with the charges just because he said "I'm really really sorry!" The way he said that just makes it sound to me that "I'm really sorry i got caught because i didn't think you would really catch how sneaky i am!" - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Might work just fine at a self checkout"
That actually might work, but i only know about a few stores that have self-check out, and most of them are grocery stores.... - mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@g00mper
Public defenders are REAL lawyers. They protect your rights EVERY DAY by making sure that the government plays by the rules.
Contrary to Law & Order, most criminal defendants have few resources to draw upon, and those limited resources are generally pooled to post bail. As a result, they depend on public defenders to track down witnesses, conduct discovery, prepare preliminary motions, and, potentially try the case.
G00mper, How would you like a job where your mistake could lead to someone spending years in jail? Public defense attorneys play for the highest stakes - liberty. I hope that you can appreciate that. - slowspin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The kid is a thief. Even hackers have to admit they don't like the bad rep they are getting with this kind of idiot running around.
- Jackel003, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Wow, what a sissy. His statments he made to the police show what a vagina he really is.
- VipeNess, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1kinda sounds like the LEGO GUY .. that made barcodes to put on the highpriced legos for 5.00 :) finally got caught after 3 to 4 months doing it.
- LordOfTheSponge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Idiot.
Never return to the scene of a crime! he should of at least went to a different store the 2nd time. - interiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"We're seeing a lot more computer involvement in crimes that used to be almost juvenile in nature."
Duh. Computer crime != big mafia ring. Computer crime = juveniles know how to use a printer, just as much as the next guy, imagine that! - Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How the hell can people call this kid ingenious? The idiot A. went back to the same store again and B. "priced" his item way too low.
If he was smart he'd go to a different store each time, price the item closer to reality, and wait for a very busy time when a harried casheir wouldn't notice.
Well actually, if he was smart he wouldn't be risking his entire future for a free iPod. This jackass now has a felony on his record and he'll be lucky to be working at Wal-Mart. - scottperezfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My friend actually did this with great success a few years ago. But the difference is that he was subtle, and he would only swap items for more expensive items of the save category - for example, am iPod nano code stuck to a 60 GB iPod. Or a $99 printer stuck to a $299 printer. But still the same manufacturer and product.
Stupid criminals get caught. Good ones don't. - tp8181, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Another reason RFID's will be here in the future.
- irrision, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow that guy sounds like a real whiner. "Please just let me go home..." "I just want to sleep in my own bed tonight.." "Leave me alone..." This guy deserves what he earned for stealing. I don't think he's remorseful for what he did just for getting caught. He's in college I'm sure he could have just got a job and contributed to society... crazy idea I know...
- mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's more than just jail he has to worry about. Even if he pleads guilty, this could ruin his life. Welcome to the internet age, where your every move is preserved for posterity and accessible through a search engine.
Colleges and grad schools, along with potential employers can easily find information about people, and forgery is precisely the type of thing that haunts a person forever. Behave in real-life and online... you never know who's watching. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4$4.99...for an iPod?
Seems to me if he was going to fake a barcode, he'd at least drop the price below what it was worth... - RabidPuppet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1low level hack. like switching a price tag. boring...
It would have been an IMPPRESSIVE hack if he figured out how to update the store's price assigned to the real bar code.
Now that would have be feat to BRAG about (while in prison). - mpeters13, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Say what you want. At the age of 19!!!! Not at 12, 13, 14, where adults can just "AWWWW poor little guy?" AGE 19!!!??? I'm 20. He's not as crafty as some of you think. And it's even more embarrassing to hear he's an Electrical Engineering major. I would hope he already had some predefined notion of -FSCK- Common sense???
Technically, he's of age to be be charged as an adult. Wtf is wrong with this kid? Does he think please "please please, I listen to linkin park, i wanna lay in my bed tonight" is going to help? I'm no Christian, but "thou shall not steal.." seems more and more obvious these days. We're in an age where huge conglomerates are willing to sue 12 yr old girls for downloading Britney Spears. Sigh. - master_of_fm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Cyber Crime was cool, but they always seemed to be doing stories on kiddie-porn that always bugged me
- jk_baller23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If the cash register attendant didn't know that an iPod is more than $4.99, then Target needs to hire smarter people, lol.
- B111, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This has been around forever. Only reason its "news" is because it has the word iPod in it.
- pbjorge12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0adammerkley said "I know how this kid felt, I'm sure he is honestly sorry. Having the cuffs slapped on you is a terrible feeling. He thought, as I once did, that he wouldn't get caught, and kept getting ballsier and ballsier."
http://phillysfun.com - TheDigger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Vektuz, you're wrong - everybody deserves a second chance. Especially a young stupid 19-year teenager like this... I'm not saying to let him unpunished at all - but to go to trial for a big time forgery crime is totally outrageous.
For God's sake, we're not talking about Frank-*****-Abagnale Jr. here, get real people! - datr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"DUMBASS!" - scorwitz
Ditto. - pbjorge12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0adammerkley said "I know how this kid felt, I'm sure he is honestly sorry. Having the cuffs slapped on you is a terrible feeling. He thought, as I once did, that he wouldn't get caught, and kept getting ballsier and ballsier."
I know the feeling...It's horrible. Once I made that mistake I knew I would never do it again and I didn't...I say give him one more chance... - tecmec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've done this before...but it was on a computer fan a princess auto. i took the barcode off a cheaper 80mm fan and put it on the led 80mm fan i wanted...it was something like a 75% discount...i think i payed about $3 for the fan.
- blurtheimage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The kid thought that the cashier would see the $4.99 and think it was $499..
It's still too big a risk though..
Dumbass kid. - thehig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I love it! Now that he is caught he just wants to make it go away."I want to sleep in my own bed please"
Tough luck.
If you can't do the time don't do the crime. -
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