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- michaelstone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"There are so many dupes of this story posted to digg within the past 5 days... it makes my head spin.
Does anyone search digg before posting a "new" story?
http://digg.com/security/Microsoft_Quietly_Extends_Support_Life_for_XP_Products
http://digg.com/software/Windows_XP_Consumer_(Home,_Tablet,_MCE)_Support_Extended
http://digg.com/software/MS_extends_XP_support_to_2008"
Guess what? It means the story is pretty important, if people are going to submit it multiple times. - DoMaGe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This story does not contain the whole truth.
"Microsoft will offer a minimum of 10 years of support for Business and Developer products. Microsoft will provide mainstream support* for either 5 years after the date of general availability, or for 2 years after the successor product (N+1) is released, whichever is longer." (http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy)
In the case of XP Home, MS's policy is "Mainstream support will end two years after the next version of this product is released." (http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3221)
You should also know that Service Pack 3 for XP home is pending: "SP3 for Windows XP Home Edition is currently planned for 2H 2007. This date is preliminary." (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx)
Microsoft also says, regarding consumer products, that "Most products will also receive at least 8 years of online self-help support"... meaning hotfixes, critical security updates and newsgroup support. That takes XP Home to Dec 31, 2009 (through extended support).
As an example, Win 98 is now in extended support... and still receives critical security updates.
XP Pro, on the other hand, being a business product, is guaranteed a 10 year life cycle... 5 yrs mainstream support and 5 years extended support. Since Vista is late, and since Vista will require new hardware for most of us... expect that to be extended. - sadsac, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4There are so many dupes of this story posted to digg within the past 5 days... it makes my head spin.
Does anyone search digg before posting a "new" story?
http://digg.com/security/Microsoft_Quietly_Extends_Support_Life_for_XP_Products
http://digg.com/software/Windows_XP_Consumer_(Home,_Tablet,_MCE)_Support_Extended
http://digg.com/software/MS_extends_XP_support_to_2008 - valis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31998 to 2008 = 10 years with no revenue flow to support updates. You expect Microsoft, or any company, to support a code base for 10 years? *shakes head* What really surprises me is that most posters here expect constant updates, innovated releases, everything that is new and bleeding edge. Oh ... AND for every thing ever released to be eternally, and without cost, updated and supported.
Un-friggin-believable.
Good on Microsoft, however, for extending support for XP Home to 2008. They don't have to, by rights, but will anyway. And you think they are evil. Jobs, on the other hand, abandons systems at the drop of a hat. Not that Apple isn't good at what they do ... but they think like Logan's Run.
Think Better. Buy more updates. Be sheep and Jobs will love you. - inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"What "constant delays" has Vista had?"
You're being ironic, right? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thank you Microsoft!
- matperk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I knew they couldn't stop supporting home.
- xNaquada, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2WHo the hell uses XPHome?
RDP and to a lesser extent, GP are important to have.
To cap this off.... anyone using Windows98.....get a ***** clue. Im not saying XP is the best.... (Win2000 can give XP-P a good run for its worthyness if you dont need the xp GUI) ... but good lord.... take up linux/freeBSD if you hate M$ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Doesn't MS still support '98??? If not, they only just stop supporting it recently. What about 2000?
- Dabellah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is good news for many people. I plan on switching over as long as they don't monitor my every activity. I can't stand prying eyes...
- generalleoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Saw that coming. Never expected them to not support it.
- matperk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1when my macbook gets here in a month, i'm going to forget about windows. and i'm going to love it.
- jarva, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it's not like they have much of a choice to support their current OS
- Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Apple's support is pretty good, actually... go type "laserwriter" into Apple's support area. Lots of documents for printers nearly 9 years out of production, eh?"
Oh man, I totally agree. I couldn't believe I could still download software for my 11 year old Macintosh Performa 6200 from their site. I could even download System 7 for free!
I also needed a Windows driver for my Laser Writer 320 and bam there it was!
That's just good support. Why can't Microsoft do that? - mrkuhn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yay! (maybe).
- theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"There are so many dupes of this story posted to digg within the past 5 days... it makes my head spin.
Does anyone search digg before posting a "new" story?"
Yes, I did search. None of those articles got to the front page, and this actually affects a lot of readers. I thought it was worth another shot to get this to the front page. Apparently 40 or so people agree. - michaelstone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Apple would never support an OS for that long."
Apple actually releases their OSes less than two years apart, instead of what will be 5 years from XP to Vista. Misrosoft really has no choice, especially since Vista is not getting much public hype. Not too many people are saying they're going out and buying Vista immediately. - spacebar14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@jozer99: well said :)
Sounds good -- when I told my dad that they would be cutting it off hes like "WUT?!"
He'll be pleased now :)
PS: I hope I used that @ symbol right -- I've never used it on Digg before. Just observed it being used. I assume its to show someones username, right?? - Jozer99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Stop complaining about dupes. People do two things well; being stupid and complaining. Obviously, we can't stop people from being stupid and posting dupes. You CAN stop complaining though. Remember that stories get to the front page because YOU digg them. If you want dupe-less coverage, settle for a more conventional news source, with all the slow updates and biased coverage that entails.
- SaintStryfe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Apple's support is pretty good, actually... go type "laserwriter" into Apple's support area. Lots of documents for printers nearly 9 years out of production, eh?
And as for OS X - It made one hard cut so far- it cut off most pre-G3 systems in offical support (though an easy hack made it so some more machines supported it)
After that, though, Tiger supports macs dating back to 99.... Panther (Still offically supported) goes to late 97 and 98. I can't ask much more then 8 years of support. - Digital.Totem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is a duplicate, but I've not commented on the others. My plan is to switch to Linux for all of my productivity as I pretty much already have, and keep a tight installation of XP Home and a 10g partition to install and play my current games on. When games stop supporting XP I'll start reading a lot more.
- CoolSilver, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1once support stops. I'm going full linux.
Converted my server. Workstation in duel boot.
I'm not buying DRMed Vista - dhakbar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Converted my server. Workstation in duel boot."
It must get noisy, what with all the fighting. - JohnnySoftware, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Not sure what Apple support is at the moment but in the 1980s and 1990s, it was a rigid 7 years of full support from the time the product shipped. I do know that Apple is supporting Mac OS 10.3 and 10.4 now. They might still be supporting OS 10.2 as well.
People posting that Apple support ceases as soon as a new product ships are exaggerating. Just wanted to clear the air on this point.
By contrast, I bought Virtual PC 5 just several years ago and I stopped being able to get updates for it a couple years ago. It came with Windows XP Home and it sounds like I won't be able to update that soon either. Virtual PC and XP Home are both Microsoft products. - sourgrapes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"nice weak ass addition of "due to constant vista delays". What "constant delays" has Vista had? I recall one delay a long long time ago... and from what I"ve seen of their "beta's" they're more than on schedule for a release before december 2006. Next time just paste something out of the article instead of making summaries that are unfounded."
I'd rather they take their sweet time and release something close to perfect than hurry up release another xp full of holes.
"Apple actually releases their OSes less than two years apart, instead of what will be 5 years from XP to Vista. Misrosoft really has no choice, especially since Vista is not getting much public hype. Not too many people are saying they're going out and buying Vista immediately"
That's because Apple finally copped out and admitted it's hardware is crap. Their hardware was starting to look like something you'd find in the toys at Toys-R-Us. Now everyone wants to see what Mac OS is all about. Unfortunately people are superficial (including myself in some cases) and like the looks of Mac. Once they find out the number of applications running on that OS and how often they are updated, they'll "think different".
But I gotta say, Apple made the transition look like a good thing rather than drawing attention to the fact that Apple was wrong all these years with their hardware. I guess the timing was right with the iPod and all. Hype does magic. Imagine if Microsoft admitted to being wrong in something as big as that. Everybody, including the shareholders, would be egging the "big bad Microsoft". - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0and : http://ezbuzz.blogspot.com/2006/01/first-windows-vista-security-update.html
- mattvirus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0what a pity, i was hoping XP Home would die a brutal, painful death.
darn you Microsoft, darn you to heck. - theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Wrong category: This article has little to do with security."
There's no Microsoft section, I figured security updates was the next relationship. - astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0.. and in 2008, you can still purchase XP Home for an incredible price of $100 just like Windows 98.
Looking at prices for older Microsoft OSs for older PCs, and I was amazed that WIN98 is still going
for $100+...
Damn shame, Microsoft states they don't support it, but still pricey as hell.
Uncle Bill is still trying to get the best of Both worlds I think for his Vista... the look of MAC and the stability of UNIX....guess what.. he'll never do it. - sadsac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Stop complaining about dupes. People do two things well; being stupid and complaining."
Ok, you've convinced me. Five posts of the same story is cool with me now... no more complaining, unless you count this last one now. - matcrawf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i have already dugg this on the front page before.. this is getting lame. .how can people support the guy that submits the same article OVERand OVER and OVER
- buddapalm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wrong category: This article has little to do with security.
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kinda odd that XP Home was going to get the boot this year, when 2000 is still being supported and XP is well into its prime (I work on 2000 workstations and its Windows Update still fetches new updates now and again).
- MrBubble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"That's because Apple finally copped out and admitted it's hardware is crap"
Actually, that's not true at all. Apple's hardware is considered excellent throughout the industry. IBM and Motorola slowed down towards the end and they couldn't supply Apple with fast chips that could be put in laptops and other small form factors. Apple made the right choice by switching, but that doesn't mean their previous chips were pathetic. There must be a reason why Microsoft and Sony are both using them in their gaming consoles. I am typing this on a 1.6Ghz G4 PowerBook on which I routinely edit video, run Photoshop, and listen to iTunes. I don't think you really know what you are talking about. - tekmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"Yes, I did search. None of those articles got to the front page, and this actually affects a lot of readers. I thought it was worth another shot to get this to the front page. Apparently 40 or so people agree."
So instead of posting a new one, why didn't you just digg one of the old ones? =P - canucksin2006, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1here are so many dupes of this story posted to digg within the past 5 days... it makes my head spin.
Does anyone search digg before posting a "new" story?
http://digg.com/security/Microsoft_Quietly_Extends_Support_Life_for_XP_Products
http://digg.com/software/Windows_XP_Consumer_(Home,_Tablet,_MCE)_Support_Extended
http://digg.com/software/MS_extends_XP_support_to_2008
There's no point to argue. No one bothers to search. I probably wouldn't have none about this if it wasn't duped, but if people who dupe so much just digg the original post then there wouldn't be the need for dupes. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0woohoo...
- saleens281, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0nice weak ass addition of "due to constant vista delays". What "constant delays" has Vista had? I recall one delay a long long time ago... and from what I"ve seen of their "beta's" they're more than on schedule for a release before december 2006. Next time just paste something out of the article instead of making summaries that are unfounded.
- embraceware, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Good news that XP home support is extended - bad news: maybe this was done because of another Vista delay that we don't know about yet. I predict Vista done and shipping on new PCs for back to school 2007 - not this year. We'll see :)
- Midnightbrewer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0"Apple actually releases their OSes less than two years apart, instead of what will be 5 years from XP to Vista. Misrosoft really has no choice, especially since Vista is not getting much public hype. Not too many people are saying they're going out and buying Vista immediately."
I'm a loyal Mac user, but I'm not afraid to say that Apple support for legacy anything is historically really, really bad. Regardless of how frequently they release an OS, they typically stop supporting it practically the day after a new one is released. This is a big no-no in the IT market they are trying to sell their servers to.
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