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- Rotzooi, on 01/02/2008, -5/+88Norton is the biggest piece of bloatware crap that ever slowed down my computer.
There's a reason the most download file from the Symantec website is their 'NortonRemover'. - thesauce, on 01/02/2008, -8/+84Our key to beating viruses and spyware is to educate internet users to avoid clicking "You won a free donkey douche! Click here to claim your prize!" I worked as a computer technician for almost three years and now I work in IT. I'd say 90% of the problems we encountered at the shop I worked at were spyware/virus related. They would all deny they went to porn sites or clicked stupid banners too. Every once in a while, someone would admit to visiting shavemytaint.org or trying to box a monkey in a small white flash ad.
Then again, how we will be able to keep such great stores as Best Buy open by giving them ***** of money to reformat our computers? Think of the loss! - norsurfit, on 01/02/2008, -12/+53Solution: Never go to a web-site that ends in ".ru"
Russia and Eastern Europe are crime and virus havens... - Nobiting, on 01/02/2008, -3/+39"You can't hack my *****, I got norton."
- inactive, on 01/02/2008, -0/+30The only reason nothing get past Norton is because Norton doesn't leave enough RAM for anything else to run.
- smackhero, on 01/02/2008, -5/+33most malware out there is in some way or another related to spam advertising. if it's not to create browser pop-ups on your computer, it's to turn your PC into a zombie for sending spam. and while trojans/worms/viruses are illegal, many types of invasive adware/malware programs that create browser pop-ups are still completely legal.
a large part of the problem is our capitalist/pro-business culture. individuals downloading music/movies for one's own private consumption is illegal, but a multi-million dollar corporations using malware to advertise/sell products or spyware to conduct market research is a sign of entrepreneurial spirit.
americans often like to blame the problem on other countries like russia or china, but 99% of the advertised services/products in spam e-mails or malware pop-ups are by U.S. corporations. if we held those companies responsible for the use of these underhanded advertising/marketing methods then there'd be no more money in spamming and the malware makers wouldn't have any monetary incentive to do what they do. - whiteknives, on 01/02/2008, -7/+28The best Anti Virus/Malware software is lesser known and free. Since people fool themselves into thinking that money buys protection for their valuable information, they flock to whatever software is the most popular. Of course, hackers are going to write programs specifically designed to infiltrate computers running Norton, McAffee, etc. I recommend AVG or Avast!
There's a much simpler solution: 99% of the time, you can avoid getting malware by avoiding websites that use the words "free" or "naked." - geekchic, on 01/02/2008, -12/+31I wonder what the creationists say about malware evolution.
- hagerman, on 01/02/2008, -1/+20I believe they call it intelligent design now.
- inactive, on 01/02/2008, -3/+22With the new and improved combination of Common Sense V1.0 and any decent free anti-virus, YOU TOO CAN BE FREE OF MALWARE!!!
- arbulus, on 01/02/2008, -2/+21Norton is as much of a virus as the stuff it claims to protect you against.
- inactive, on 01/02/2008, -6/+24I don't, and never will use any kind of anti-virus software. Although I download large amounts of various content, I've never got a virus/trojan/etc. How? Just follow these five simple steps:
1. Never run an executable if which you are unsure of its source.
2. Don't go looking for cracks online... ever.
3. BitTorrent --> Private Trackers.
4. Always remember: ".ru" == malware hell.
5. Firefox (win)
/$0.02 - ChiRolla, on 01/02/2008, -1/+15I believe you forgot the sarcasm tags for all the literal readers.
- benroy, on 01/02/2008, -4/+18I hope you're being facetious. I'm a computer tech and before I even attempt to address the problem at hand, I remove/uninstall ANY Norton/Symantec software. This is a common practice for many technicians. The key to a healthy computer is 'less is more'. Only install software you know you need or will use. It's not a contest to see how many search assistants and registry optimizers you can pack into your anemic, Celeron-powered, spam-flinging victim of a computer.
The best Antivirus is NOD32 anyway. - Spanq, on 01/02/2008, -0/+11Yes it is, you ignorant boob. You must not have read the second or third page.
- MindTrigger, on 01/02/2008, -1/+11You are preaching to the choir. It's the other 95% of computer users out there that don't know what the hell you are even talking about, who are the problem.
- Jawshie, on 01/02/2008, -4/+14I love Linux as much as the rest of you but please stop with the "just install Linux" comments. The idea of this article is not to convert people but to make people aware and to take proper precautions. The unfortunate reality of the situation is that even if we do not want to, often times we must use Windows or Mac or whatever OS to get the job done. Fanboyism doesn't cut it in the professional world, results do.
- Waskonator, on 01/02/2008, -3/+13Bill Gates had sex with a fem-bot on top of a Ouija board. Everyone knows that...
- Brianguy2000, on 01/02/2008, -26/+36Nothing can slip past Norton!
- MioTheGreat, on 01/02/2008, -1/+11You know, #5 may or may not be true anymore. WIth Protected Mode IE (A feature which other browsers should have began implementing the moment Microsoft announced it.), it doesn't even have user-level access to your system. If the IE process is completely hijacked by an exploit, it can't even delete an icon off your desktop, let alone install software on your computer.
- SonnyW, on 01/02/2008, -0/+10Your ass is not a reliable source of information.
- Pelapp, on 01/02/2008, -6/+15So if everyone used linux, there wouldn't exist any viruses ?
- implied, on 01/02/2008, -1/+10Yeah they would never sell code to anyone outside of Russia or Eastern Europe either!
- geekchic, on 01/02/2008, -1/+9Once Norton has bloated your computer - your boast will also appliy to legitimate computer usage as well.
- Happytired, on 01/02/2008, -1/+9So I shouldn't continue to go to porn sites? That's the best part of my day. :(
- inactive, on 01/02/2008, -0/+8Forever, eh? Clearly you're an idiot.
- Gzero, on 01/02/2008, -0/+8AVG has one of the worst detection ratings.
- vibrokatana, on 01/02/2008, -2/+92007-12-19 01:23:11,403 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['88.208.78.83']
2007-12-19 17:54:43,499 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['216.255.8.4']
2007-12-20 04:25:45,726 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['212.160.143.210']
2007-12-20 09:40:15,242 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['72.21.42.122']
2007-12-20 12:31:14,463 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['210.245.188.86']
2007-12-21 00:33:16,112 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['61.134.65.61']
2007-12-21 16:19:14,236 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['194.29.203.144']
2007-12-21 22:55:13,978 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['65.169.184.2']
2007-12-22 07:36:15,325 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['217.64.100.162']
2007-12-22 17:08:53,442 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['66.240.255.58']
2007-12-22 17:10:53,448 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['201.234.135.7']
2007-12-23 21:01:54,150 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['85.38.203.19']
2007-12-23 22:03:24,519 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['72.232.196.98']
2007-12-23 22:31:54,464 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['76.197.19.59']
2007-12-24 16:42:56,711 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['60.191.231.74']
2007-12-25 02:32:59,373 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['211.72.242.109']
2007-12-27 04:29:33,770 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['218.104.164.138']
2007-12-27 05:20:34,717 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['212.160.143.210']
2007-12-27 17:33:15,398 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['76.252.94.131']
2007-12-27 18:47:16,180 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['210.245.188.86']
2007-12-28 00:24:45,968 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['59.56.181.4']
2007-12-28 03:20:16,951 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['222.184.250.36']
2007-12-29 18:55:00,071 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['61.172.200.171']
2007-12-30 22:34:35,442 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['200.171.41.226']
2007-12-30 22:54:35,732 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['66.166.56.233']
2008-01-02 01:21:08,864 - denyhosts : INFO new denied hosts: ['201.63.19.74']
ownd, they are welcome to try but they get banned lol - antechinus, on 01/02/2008, -2/+9Utter and complete *****. If you run a Linux box which is connected to the net and you have port 22 open, have a look at your log files. You will probably be horrified to see all of the automated login attempts. There is a huge net of root kitted Linux boxes out there whose sole aim in life is to break into other Linux boxes and root kit them.
You do know how to read the log file of a Linux box? - benroy, on 01/02/2008, -1/+8I like to abide by the K.I.S.S principle. Keep It Simple Stupid. Too many people think nothing of clicking 'OK' to any prompt thrown up onto their screen. Would you let every person who knocked on your door into your house? 90% of the time the software in question was WILLFULLY INSTALLED, it's very rare that an 'infiltration' occurs. Even NOD32 can't protect against ignorance.
- Tetraca, on 01/03/2008, -0/+7Never go on the internet without using NoScript.
Never go onto sites you don't trust.
Never accept a cookie from a domain foreign to the one you are currently browsing.
Never install an application from a shoddy or poor source.
Never install shareware.
Never install shareware.
NEVER install shareware.
Never trust a source which has an installation program for a background or screensaver.
Never download and install a toolbar.
Never so much as view ads from tribalfusion or caselmedia.
Never play an ad game.
Never use Internet Explorer
Never use an administrator or root account unless you are installing an application. Even then, use "run as", "sudo", or "su" if possible.
In conclusion:
Never be stupid when browsing the web, and you'll never get a virus or so much as a piece of malware. Alternatively, you could continue to do these things, but use an operating system nobody cares about in the ad world, like Linux, Haiku, or eComStation. - Bulletbillx, on 01/03/2008, -0/+7Avast!, kaspersky, and NOD32 are good anti-viruses as well. Get spybot and adaware for the spyware.
- Orlong, on 01/02/2008, -2/+9Ill switch to BSD/Linux when the day I can play Crysis, Bioshock, WOW, LOTRO, etc... on it. Otherwise I have to stick with Windows. Too many of the Diggheads on this site always scold people who dont use *nix, not realizing that they actually want to do things that are actually fun like play games, watch TV, edit photos with something better than Gimp etc...Ive tried Linux and and STILL cant get a driver for my X-FI Fatl1ty edition soundcard so its useless to me
- DestroyFascism, on 01/02/2008, -4/+11Norton is a POS! use Nod32
- SonnyW, on 01/02/2008, -0/+7Malware isn't evolving. It just appears that way to test out faith.
- reaper, on 01/02/2008, -0/+6fear of strangers?...
No one said we dislike these guys! - tendonut, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6actually, www.gamecopyworld.com and (using FF) www.serals.ws are completely clean. (Don't even THINK about it under IE) Keep that in mind. Other than that, you're dead on.
- Scira, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6Wow no one on digg gets sarcasm anymore.
- monkeyrun, on 01/02/2008, -1/+7Norton could almost qualify as a Virus.
The only thing stopping that is that you are paying money for it. - MioTheGreat, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6Viruses and Spyware, as I've said countless times, don't have much to do with the security of the operating system beyond the default privileges given to processes. They're just executable code. It's the job of the OS to execute things you throw at it.
What is a big problem, however, is exploits in the OS that allow for remote execution and privilege escalation. In this regard, Vista is a little better off than OSX, based on their respected security records. - MrTea, on 01/02/2008, -0/+6know what'd be more affective than antivirus apps? An improvement of user intelligence; "duhhhh, oh look an attachment in the email from my business partner in the middle east, what can go wrong? *click*"
- orblivion, on 01/02/2008, -0/+6"Just" install Linux is annoying, agreed. It presumes that I know what you're using your computer for, and obviously Linux isn't ready for *everything*. But I would still certainly say "Consider installing Linux". It's ready for a whole lot, and getting progressively better. It's a possible option, I would want to make sure that people at least know it's a possibility, and how it's actually pretty capable. And the more people that use it, the more we'll get better software on Linux, and the more we'll get Windows to do nice things like IE protected mode (which I never heard of before this thread; I'm a Linux user and I say kudos to MS for that. I'll have to look into it).
- hawkspur, on 01/02/2008, -1/+7We all know you don't have a girlfriend.
- subxero37, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6Yeah, screw useful sites like http://pinouts.ru/
Hmm, this calls for top-top-level-domains, .useless and .useful. That way, it's www.google.com.useful, and www.msn.com.useless.
Then you can just filter all .useless domains. Easy as pie, other than the fact that I can't bake a pie... - kidal25, on 01/02/2008, -2/+8Just use NOD32. No ***** and no problems. It doesn't slow down my computer. It's the best anti virus I have ever used.
- Hermmunster, on 01/03/2008, -1/+6I had a nice family in my shop the other day. Mom, Dad, 2 kids (older son, and a daughter). They obviously are a religious family and focus on family. No porn, no extraneous programs, have Norton Internet security, etc. But they were infected with a rogue program. How did they get this program installed? What caused it? Did they download something? Did they install something? Did they visit some odd site?
None of that. It came down as a codec when they visited a web site. That program then downloaded the rogue software and kept prompting them with Windows Security Alerts. He made it clear that he had not responded affirmatively to the prompts. He did not go to their website and purchase their software. None of the programs he used got rid of the rogue software.
What can I say? He didn't do anything wrong, but he got infected. In my shop I get hundreds of computers a year that are infected. Actually, I have to say the majority of them are infected. This is not the case with stupid people. Those of you making this statement are even dumber than those you claim are dumb. The people that get infected are just average people using their computer to do those things they thought they should be allowed to do. The computer is a complex piece of software/hardware and not everyone has the same level of detailed knowledge. There's nothing wrong with this. - shredswithpiks, on 01/02/2008, -1/+6use more firefox
- sremick, on 01/03/2008, -0/+5If you've never run a scan, how do you know you're not infected?
- inactive, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5Granted , most malware infestations are a result of a problem between the keyboard and the monitor, but now these guys have written malware so smart, that researchers who mess with them get DOS'ed, as soon as they mess with them! One of the best ways i have found to prevents malware, is to have the infestee, run with limited privileges, or if they must have porn, boot off a Damm Small Linux CD and go to town...
- tendonut, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5You're doing it wrong. There has to be a fairly large * next to the last word
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