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- geoken, on 10/11/2007, -26/+102Sometimes I think MS is unfairly attacked in these pieces. They come out with a new OS, which is excluded from most of the recent security bulletins I've seen, yet their current performance is still bieng judged by their last-gen OS. I think articles like this should specify what OS they're talking about (ie XP or Vista).
- wildfire, on 10/11/2007, -3/+76Malware = software installed by idiot trying to get free porn/games/movies/money
- catfish182, on 10/11/2007, -15/+78blah blah blah MS sucks
blah blah blah apple blows.
Who ***** cares already.
I use at home XP, Vista, OS 10
They are all fine cuase i dont do stupid ***** on the computer. Some things suck on each while other things are cool. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -10/+57It isn't unfeasible to run XP sans virus scan. Use FireFox with adblock, browse cleverly, and you're set.
- HunterTV, on 10/11/2007, -0/+37"don't visit filesharing sites or porn sites"
Okay, just calm down, let's not talk crazy talk. - Reziarfg, on 10/11/2007, -5/+40What the hell are you talking about? Challenge me?! None of my XP machines have had any of that bloated virus protection. I just surf smart and use decent browsers. The big faux pas of windows was so closely integrating their browser with their OS. While I disagree with having users setup as administrators by default, their operating system isn't that defunct.
- petereality, on 10/11/2007, -3/+36how many times must we rehash the same old arguments
- everfresh59, on 10/11/2007, -4/+32I gave up with Windows and OSX and went back to Pencil and Paper v.3.453
- supermanred, on 10/11/2007, -51/+78Anyone who knows anything about OSes knows that Windows is insecure at its core. It's like making a building out of styrofoam. No matter what you do to fix the patches, some other ***** is just going to show up with a knife or spoon and get in. OS X and Linux are like buildings made of steel and concrete. You need a rocket launcher or a Knight 2000 to get through the walls.
And yes, I challenge anyone to set up a Windows XP box WITHOUT ANTI-VIRUS. Patch it so its up to date and I'll set up an out-of the box OS X machine right beside it (without patching the 100 or so security holes) and we can surf some ***** on the internet and see who goes down first. - fatdog789, on 10/11/2007, -10/+34I don't run antivirus. I don't run a firewall. I don't run any security program. I use Windows XP. I'm still virus free.
Hell, my mom's computer doesn't run any security and it's still virus free five years later.
How is this possible?
Common ***** sense: don't visit filesharing sites or porn sites. That'll cut out 99% of the ***** out there. - trunkster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+23You would think a hacker would want first blood for a major OSX worm if it was possible.
- petereality, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20how many times must we rehash the same old arguments
- jimic79, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19did you use the word rewrited? just checking...
- modifiedbears, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16This the same antivirus industry that bitched and moaned when Microsoft was taking steps to make them obsolete?
- eliasg, on 10/11/2007, -8/+23Let's see...
Windows = Users are Admins by default
Mac/*Nix = Users are NOT Admins by default, and in most cases the root account is disabled. - HunterTV, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15NERD FIGHT!
- juiceman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13YAWN............
- tdowling, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Yeah, I have to ask too: how do you know that you're virus free if you don't have software checking for viruses?
- mysteri0usdrx, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13holy sh1t a reformat every 2 months?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Why is Digg ***** up so badly with all these double posts?
- sp1keNARF, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11"t gets is a fresh reformat every 2 months"
lol - pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10it was nice not having mac vs pc debates on the front page for a while. oh well.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14Nicely done! Piss off Mac and PC users at the same time; apparently not a successful tactic... Too bad you left Ubuntu and Ron Paul out...
- FunkyNuts, on 10/11/2007, -9/+19Not to turn this into a mac vs. pc argument, but your comment isn't based on a single fact, nor do you qualify or quantify your claim about macs having "many more bugs than xp". Given Microsoft's dominance in the market for over 15-20 years, I would think they'd have worked out the major flaws by now in the core of its operating systems. Instead, it is repeatedly a day late and a dollar short when it comes to security. Microsoft's OSes are riddled with security flaws, yet they do nothing about it because, simply put, they don't have to. Their business plan is to get the product out on time and let the users find the holes. You say there are millions of users banging on windows working out the kinks. The problem is, it should be MICROSOFT working out the kinks, not the users. If I'm paying up to $700 for Vista Ultimate, I don't WANT to depend on the users to find flaws. I want to be sure Microsoft hasn't put my data at risk.
Don't you realize how wrong it is that you have been conditioned to expect that sp2 is even necessary? Shouldn't Microsoft get it right the first time? I'm not saying it has to be flawless, but a new flaw discovered every week? Additionally, an OS doesn't have to be without bugs, but it does have to handle errors gracefully. That's just good business, and that just isn't Microsoft. - Kazbaeden, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10If it's the OS's problem, how come others have written secure browsers and stable, usable media players for windows?
- rstarr, on 10/11/2007, -9/+19I call shenanigans.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -9/+17What do YOU know about Windows NT internals? What version of windows is most secure than any Unix, if you can point at least one then a I shut the ***** up.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10His point is that Microsoft code is used far far far more often then Apple code. That there are more people to find , identify and correct bugs.
The number of security problems is only higher because there are far more people using Microsoft products. There is more functionality and more software interacting with the platform.
I will also add that the extreme majority of these problems are related to people's stupidity. Answering Phishing email, purposely executing malicious code they think is safe, etc.
If you have a basic understanding of safe computing, it's almost impossible that you will get a virus on your windows machine even if you don't have an anti-virus.
But hey... go ahead... download those screensavers. What do i know. - wjackson, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10"The Mac maker has plugged security flaws that could have resulted in OS X customers being "owned" by basic actions such as visiting a malicious Web site, watching a video file or opening an e-mail attachment."
"owned"? Srsly? - thinkdifferent, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Not exactly. A virus doesn't have to be doing anything malicious on your machine to be a problem. It could turn your machine into a spam node, or could install a keylogger to get access to your financial information. The harm of both of those types of viruses (spyware) do nothing directly to your computer, but have huge potential harm external of it.
- threemagic, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10How do you know?
(this is a very important question) - foofightrs777, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10I'm guessing that none of the Windows users commenting here run their machine on a network of any size. On my dormitory network an unprotected XP machine would be infected within a minute or so. So please if your on a network run an antivirus. You don't have to go on a website or download a program for your PC to be infected.
- shaungc, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8...is a myth
- Speed, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Windows is a good (no a great OS). Many other companies manage to write great (and solid) apps on Windows, . Apple fails, not because of Windows, but because they just can't write quality software unless it's all proprietary.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Majority of these problems are simply because the Windows XP user is running in Administrator mode.
Use a guest or limited user account and most attacks fail. - chuuchdizzle, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8did they just say "owned"??.....really??....lame...
- meatmcguffin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6What kind of operating system in this century needs a reformat every two months to work correctly? Hell, my mac mini has an uptime record of more than that.
- wenwon, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11No operating system is totally safe. OSX is as close as you're going to get to having a rock solid safe system. The reason why the bad guys like Microsoft products is simply because it's easier for them to break into it and manipulate.
- scapermoya, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9this isn't the case with Vista, and i'd like to see which operating system you are referring to that has root 'disabled', whatever that means.
- TenebrousX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6that's not what that means. At all.
- JonnyTrombone, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Xyc0, don't get too excited over that. EA isn't a very good company- I know they've run one of my favorite series (Command & Conquer) into the ground.
- Gametophyte, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12Windows is the most widely used operating system on the market today; therefore it's a primary target for programmers who write malicious code. If OSX was in the same position, and I have a feeling that it eventually will be; I'm sure more issues would be raised with Apple's product.Security also relies on administrative knowledge and hardening, installing antivirus and a firewall simply doesn't cut it. I'm not in favor of any OS. That being said, you're giving users a false sense of security.
- wildfire, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12I don't -- I use Macs as well. Final Cut Pro really brings the underlying bugs running out. I submitted at least five bug reports just with file saving in FCP, especially a nasty one saving to a network share.
- Kazbaeden, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Any decent server is secured and maintained by professionals. The only kind of attacks you're going to pull on them aren't the same type that affects Windows XP, which usually find their way onto a system by downloading and installing something. Some of the world's most highly visited sites run on Windows Server and they're not dropping like flies left and right. In fact they're very stable and very secure severs.
- JonLatane, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8As a recently converted Mac user, I have something I think I need to point out to XP users who say that an XP box can remain malware-free without anti-virus.
In XP, which I used alone for 3 years (2004-2007), there is performance degredation every time you install something. Seriously. I can browse the internet in Firefox or Internet Explorer, install a legit copy of Photoshop, MS Office, the necessary power management drivers for the laptop, the necessary touchpad drivers for the laptop... well, you need to get a lot of stuff post-install in XP just to have a fully-functional system.
By the end of this, XP is absolutely *****. It now takes over 3 minutes to get the system to sleep, and then another 30 seconds to wake up. Starting a trivial application takes WAY longer than it used to. As far as system performance goes, everything is malware in XP.
On OSX, after installing iWork '06, some mouse drivers for my Logitech mouse, lots of illegal music, pirated Final Cut Pro, pirated Photoshop, and several freeware games... everything is the same speed. - strictnein, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8for number of bugs?
- meatmcguffin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5NO, YOU SHUT UP
- bIuebonics, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6@threemagic
yea, because there have never been hacked linux servers... right... - vvaduva, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9If it's still secure, why plug 100 holes then? To claim that any system is secure from an attacker is simply ignorant. A determined attacker can gain access to any system, regardless of OS. Stop spewing fanboy garbage and face reality...
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