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- malkir, on 10/10/2007, -26/+117Microsoft stealing others ideas and then claiming them as innovative, original, and their own? How shocking!
- sherifftruman, on 10/10/2007, -8/+91im in ur emailz stoppin ur spammerz
- HunterTV, on 10/10/2007, -8/+89U IZ NOT HUMANZ, CANZEL OR ALLOWZ?
- LordSkywalker, on 10/10/2007, -2/+44This is just a ripoff of Hot Capcha. http://hotcaptcha.com/
And here's the Cat one: http://research.microsoft.com/sn/asirra/installation.aspx
http://www.asirra.com/examples/ExampleService.html - MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -5/+39What if Schrödinger wants to send an email?
- Ludnix, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27No, the email is both sent and not sent at the same time.
- Homunculiheaded, on 10/10/2007, -5/+23Why dig malkir down? I'm not an anti-ms guy, but this has been around for awhile: http://www.thepcspy.com/kittenauth from over a year ago for example (yes that's a kitten based captcha, but not really different from what this article desribes). If this guy works for MS now or something that's different, but otherwise is this 'theft' or at least 'borrowing' rather than 'original' and 'creative'.
- Twist05, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Perhaps you have to actually guess the lolcat joke of the picture.
- podgey22, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15>> If this guy works for MS now or something that's different
I'm that guy and no I don't work for MS... Yes, it's my idea and yes, I'm a little peeved that people (read: PCWorld) are reporting things as if MS invented the idea of using animals as a CAPTCHA alternative. - Zoids, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Then the email is both dead and alive at the same time...
- Frozo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Um, you can already do that. Just go to your email app and make switch the preference to not accept any emails that are not from people in your address book.
- JefffN, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12"Called Human Interactive Proofs (HIPs), Microsoft, Ticketmaster and a host of other companies have been using the system for around five years, Larson said."
HIPs? Leave it to Microsoft to take something everyone already uses, put a new name on it, and refer to it as that. It's like all people still calling them "CAPTCHAs" are just crazy. - krnldmp, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12Buried as spam.
- pmagayon, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12Must be Caturday.
- MavRevMatt, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Choose the three chicks who are hot is better, it keeps out bots and the losers who can't define hot.
- omnirusa, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Ahh microsoft swoops in with another unoriginal idea once again!
- yoyar, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10This is not an original idea. It came from the maker of this game: http://www.espgame.org/ - Does it surprise you that MS is going to lie about something they didn't create? Ooooooo Big News! Anyway, there is no reason to dig down malkir as he is 100% correct.
- wiifm69, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7hot capcha is something you could really get used to
- bitspace, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5HIPs? What happened to captchas?
- monkeyboy7706, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5But you do reallise that Candy the Stripper is actually Mr. Nguyens night job don't you.
- Xyleene, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Hahah, I failed the 'pick the three hot guys' test... I am apparently a robot.
- Thefatheroftime, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5This is the John C Dvorak school of countering spam. Unfortunetly, this also blocks legitimate mail from unknown sources; like me mailing him to tell him how unfounded his blog is.
- shawnz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6@yahoo
this is not a "new idea." also, its a captcha, not a "human interactive proof." - joe90210, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5leave it to a digger to show his idiocy, they didn't invent the term HIP, it's been around for a while.
- AlexFerny, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Why not simply scan e-mails upon sending them for spam, much like GMail does on recieving.
- grgt1994, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I found the HIP involving amihotornot.com much more interesting. It used results from the once popular web 1.0 site to ask the user which people were attractive. And it selected among very highly rated and very homely rated ladies. Since that database is huge, and ever growing, and also since computers have yet to learn to distinguish between a babe and a 2 bagger, it could work quite well.
But wouldn't it suck if your own picture just happened to pop up - and you were rated 3 bagger? - cartwheels, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3A corruption of LOL, or Laughing Out Loud.
- grumpyrain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Spammers will do exactly what they do now. Create a porn page and ask the user of that page to identify the image.
- yoyar, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I don't understand why malkir (see above) was dugg down. He's absolutely correct. The makers of this game (http://www.espgame.org/) came up with this concept some time ago. It is not an original idea. It's a great idea, but it certainly didn't come from Microsoft.
- BevansDesign, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think it's much more likely that whomever wrote the article had no idea what he was talking about and credited it to MS.
- jkramlich, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The first person to do something like this was KittenAuth, but he never released his source code. So we came up with HumanAuth, which is an improved version and is open source. http://www.gigoit.org/humanauth/ Basically, our version randomly watermarks the images so that they can never be compared to a list of known corrects. It also has other benefits listed at the above link.
- BrianCMasi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4This is ineffective because the number of pictures of kittens is going to be limited and one dedicated hacker could simply catalog all of the pictures with the correct answers so a computer could still solve these. See Security Now episode 101
http://www.twit.tv/sn101 - ufee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I have heard that people link those text images to their personal porn sites, and then rely on porn surfers to type in the correct text. I don't see how kittens could hinder that technique.
- tomz17, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Way to innovate... I heard this idea half a dozen years ago...
- Archimboldo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Furthermore, in order to charge the mailer he would have to give a credit card number, paypal account or other such thing. Due to the that hassle, there will always be services that differentiate themselves from the crowd by not requiring a credit card to sign up. Spammers will, of course, then just use these services.
For every good thing, some idiot comes in and spoils it for everyone else. The tares and the wheat. - alciadanet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2dugg for "One suggested that Microsoft continually take videos of a kitten jumping around a room, as a way to generate a nearly endless string of photos for identification."
- Kratos76, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2But i LIKE getting emails from Candy the Stripper!
- darkfate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I was about to point out that episode. He makes a valid point. There will always be a fixed limit and given time, any system that isn't completely dynamic and changing will be cracked.
- yunus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Someone should start a new email protocol and service that has the ability to charge per email(email meets paypal). The charge should be optional and charged by the email recipient if they choose to. This optional charge would virtually eliminate spam as spammers could not afford to send millions of emails that people are going to charge against. Yet any email that you deem worthy of receiving would still be free. This type of system would obviously have negatives, you would have to put money in the account before you can send email. But if you charged 1 penny per email you could fund an account with $1 and have up to 100 emails out before being required to wait until they "clear". Put a timer on the charge ability so that someone has to request the charge within 24 hours of the email being sent.
- scuba7183, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3lolkittens?
- kidford, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Actually, I'd say it's more similar to < a href="http://www.thepcspy.com/contact">Kitten Auth. By more similar, of course, I mean the same damn thing.
- LegOfLamb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2....wow, good one!... and people are digging that up?
- slapthemonkey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Kittens?huh?.....
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1what about having to guess the length of longcat? longcat is looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
- Archimboldo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I would think that a pixel by pixel comparison showing a 90% match in largely contiguous regions could eliminate that kind of watermarking - especially if the different pixels formed letters. You would have to flip a non-contiguous and large number of bits.
- mikesbaker, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1you found it good for you
- zdiggler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1its different because they're using Cats+Dogs that are up for adoption. The PR guy from IDG could have twisted the story and giving all creds to ms.
- bpmdub, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah Bank of America has been doing this for a while
- LegOfLamb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Mostly taketh http://digg.com/health/Psychic_Cat_Accurately_Predicts_Death
- astrotrain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This just in... Henrietta Pussycat has found a new line of work... with Microsoft..
"meow, meow.. I found Spam... meow, meow"
Since this success, Microsoft will hire the entire Neighborhood of Make-Believe to run its company...
King Friday: "I say.. our Windows is faaar superior than Linux, Cornflake S. Pecially increase your output of our glorious Operating System by ** holds puppet hands wide** this much!"
Mr. McFeely: "You need to verify you are a Genuine Windows product before I make the 'Speedy Delivery' of patches to your computer." -
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