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- KibibyteBrain, on 10/12/2007, -3/+33Time to convert my tin foil hat into tin foil undies.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28Note to self: "bone up" before boarding.
- retral, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29Oh god, not this again.
- orbanj, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Both.
In other news, applications to the TSA have increased 10000x. - nepawoods, on 10/12/2007, -10/+29It's just part of the never ending government experiment to see how much people will put up with. Nothing more.
- Switch22, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Think of the guy employed who has to look at everyone that goes by.
For every hot chick that passes through, theres a hairy old man going by. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15The year: 2027
The time: 11:24pm
The location: On the side of the highway, having been pulled over for a burned out tail light.
The situation: Smokey is gazing at your body scan on his SCMODS. - str3ama, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20Another hairball scheme from some Washington think-tank and the NSA I'm sure. A video on Yahoo interviewed this Airport security manger and he said that if ppl don't want their genitalia to be looked at, they should put a black metal bar near their crotch so that the scanner will just get a black bar instead.
1) They assume that we all readily have a crotch sized metal bar at our disposal.
2) That we are actually going to put a metal bar down on pants prior to going to the airport.
3) That we really don't mind doing something as ridiculous as that, the fact the guy would even suggest that. - praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -1/+14"Is New Passenger Scanner a Terrorist Trap or Virtual Strip Search?"
A little from Column A...a little from Column B - daRoach, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Exactly, if I can get through the line at the airport in less time because of this, I'm not so modest that I'm going to complain about x-ray pictures of myself... as long as I can get a copy.
- davidrools, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12will my metal bar be considered a weapon and confiscated?
- pixelate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Wow, I COULD NOT have chosen a better time to launch my crotch-sized metal bar store!
- selrahc, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Hey I don't mind if they are looking at my genitals. I'm not ashamed. I wouldn't mind going naked if it were warm enough...
- RussellDovey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_X-ray :
"In contrast to the traditional X-ray machine, which detects hard and soft materials by the variation in transmission through the target, backscatter X-ray is a newer imaging system which detects the radiation which comes back from the target."
The whole point of this new design was to avoid the radiation problems you are quite rightly concerned about. It uses X-rays which are thousands of times weaker than the ones used in penetrating X-ray scanners tuned so that they scatter off the skin without actually penetrating. This way you won't see people's bones (or bombs hidden inside them, by the way) but you will see anything they're carrying, no matter how well hidden.
Whether it's actually going to do any good for air security is another matter altogether. I just wish that instead of worrying about terrorism, which kills barely hundreds of people a year, the world would put the billions they're wasting on airport security into solar power technology as cool as this: http://www.coolearthsolar.com/mission.htm
Climate change is already killing more people than terrorism. Where is the money going? Sigh. - XTheEliminator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Either that, or the manager has a sense of humour.
- nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Although it's more likely you'll get Ulgah, a 30-something year old, 170+ lb. rugby player from russia with just a tad too much facial hair.
- TransmitThis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I want my xray specs :)
So these xray machines are safe to go through?
Having detailed images of preteen girls and boys on airport computers is safe ? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-Benjamin Franklin - kylesherman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6based on title:
both...obviously - mutants, on 08/17/2008, -0/+5"Why yes ma'am, this scanner does make your ass look fat.."
- phryday, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6i wish the ratio was that high, well, for the hot chicks. still, it's not that bad.
- sstidman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I dare one of you to use some sort of metallic paint to write the following on your belly before going through the machine:
I've got your
potentially
threatening
object right here
||
/ - dtfinch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If they can get an elderly woman to operate it, nobody will care.
- furryplanet, on 10/12/2007, -11/+15Did you all just see that blur fly right by? Oh don't worry.. Its only your liberties.
- Ignignokt01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5They stay behind a shield because they do it like a hundred times per day. You only get it 5 times every year you go to the dentist. I once wondered the same thing until I just asked the nurse why she shielded herself.
- vulcanius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh BOY! Everyone in my exhibitionist club is going to be SO excited, in more ways than one!
- JosephGoss, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7i know that, but what if this scanner becomes standard at all airports?, and you travel a lot, won't it be dangerous?
i don't want to have a higher chance of getting cancer every time i go to a airport,
i am already concerned about my health because you get more a radiation dose from the sun when you fly, this airport scanner will just add to the overall radiation dose when you fly
so my question still, will this thing zap me like those ones at the dentist do?, is it as dangerous? - vulcanius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm going to try to get my celebrity X-rays signed, how about you guys?
- an0nymous, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Just wanted to point out that we still haven't ever caught a terrorist at the gate.
How much money and time have we spent on the new security measures again? - mutants, on 08/17/2008, -0/+3Looks like I will be switching to boxers...
- GMorgan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6What's the average absorbed dose from these things. I'm wary of anything that essentially blasts you with ionising radiation.
- sstidman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@OBKenobi:
"As long as the make the politicians and Pentagon spooks go through them, I'll go too. But they won't do that."
Sadly, you are very right: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070302/ap_on_re_us/gore_airport_security_3
But you won't hear much about that incident in the news. The dudes a hypocrite. - j3rm1981, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Yeah, this was new news in the UK back in October/November. People screened said they were more than happy to comply because it meant a faster security check process.
- thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5The new ones now don't show the actual x-ray photo of the person, they highlight areas to be searched further in a "manual" strip search on a line drawing of a generic human.
- RussellDovey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_X-ray
- Brodels, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I was chosen to try this machine in London's Heathrow Airport about a year and a half ago, I don't really think it's a bad thing, although maybe it should be restricted to people they are already somewhat suspicious of to begin with, I'm not sure. It's good they are looking to speed up the process though, It took me way longer to stand in various stupid scanning positions than it did just to wait in line like you normally would.
On a side note, it's interesting that to see the difference in what UK and US citizens value regarding privacy. "Full-detail backscatter systems are already in use in the U.K., where objections focus less on nude images and more on background checks, which is a common practice in the U.S." - Gregac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Honestly why aren't things showing up in night clubs already?!? Well at-least they have an outlet for them after the TSA get sued out of existence by soccer moms trying to protect there children's (*Cough* Religious *Cough*) rights.
- ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4In my point of view, it sure beats a rectal search.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Whether it's a virtual strip-search depends on when (not if) screencaps show up on the internet.
- diggduggjoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3One thing that was not mentioned was how much radiation makes it to the passenger. If, you fly occasionally it is one thing, but frequent flyers already get more rads just being up in the plane. Jet setters will may become cancer central.
Personnally, x-raying my luggage is fine with me, but x-rays to my body is out. Now it is voluntary, but will be mandatory soon enough. I think I would prefer to go to a special locker room and change into a flight suit. They return your stuff on the other end. Or, we could return to our Constitution, leave others alone and discover peace.
No, we can't do that. War props up too much of the economy now. In the 80s it was Greed is Good. Today, it is War is Delightful. - faceicles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2TSA porno!
- jaknet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Welcome to another block list you spamming idiot. Get a life
- ELee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Another pic..
http://www.epic.org/privacy/faa/bodysearch.gif
Weapons.. drugs.. and one coin in his pocket. Where is this guy going? Miami? - Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The day that the President is willing to walk through one of these, and a 'regular' security employee (as opposed to secret service) is the one doing the checking - that is the day that this kind of technology has been accepted. Until then....rich people will continue to charter planes and do things to avoid them, as they are only non-invasive for 'average' folk.
- jeremyduffy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The Electronic Fronteir Foundation has been covering this for a while.
http://www.epic.org/privacy/airtravel/backscatter/
There's a lot of people offering reasons why they would accept this, but it's crap. This is not acceptable under any circumstances. If you are innocent (which you are assumed to be unless there's significant reason for them not to assume), you have the right to not be searched, singled out, or harassed in any way. This is more than a simple metal detector. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Just because it's submitted by supernova it made the front page, I see how the "game" works. ;)
I submitted basically the same story (Different site, submitted 6 days ago, no point in me linking to the digg submission), http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_re_us/airport_x_ray_screening
I'm sure this will be dugg down, but if you take the time to read the article I submitted it states that the screener is 100% voluntary. - diggzoid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Apparently it's equivalent to the radiation exposure that you encounter in about 10 minutes on a typical flight at 30,000 ft, in other words tiny. However it makes you think how much a pilot or flight attendant receives in 20 or 30 years of service.
- ArcCoyote, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Brodels: You mention the part about what the US vs. UK finds objectionable. I was wondering about that part myself.
It boils down to: What do you find more invasive:
Someone looking at your body?
Or someone looking at your past, your family, your associates, your finances, your job, your lifestyle, your race, your religion... I'm amazed the US is more sensitive about body image than everything else.
Background checks and no-fly lists are pointless: Bad guys know how to steal and fake identities.
Forget background and just make everyone walk through the scanner. If you're concealing something, they will find it. Even if you are the type to try something, you won't be able to.
The screener never sees you. They just watch the monitor and hit a button if they think you're concealing something. That alerts the person walking you through. Also, if you pop for additional screening and you don't want the scanner, you're going to be frisked and have a stranger's HANDS all over you. - KDX200rider, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It is a dream come true for all those who, as kids, ordered the "X-Ray" specs from a comic or other magazine and were disappointed when they received a pair of sun glasses with a small skeleton attached to the lens.
- illustrissim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I had to go through one when they were new at Heathrow. It was 'voluntary', but they way the did it was they pulled you out of the queue, and if you refuse, they make you go to the end. I had already been queuing for a half hour, so naturally I took the scan and went on my way.
I felt a little dirty and a little violated, but no more than if the large sweaty man working security had patted me down. -
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