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- chaos7, on 08/05/2008, -11/+605where do we live..in china??
- MaxMWood, on 08/06/2008, -9/+408***** you and your i-Patriotism.
- Minarchian, on 08/05/2008, -10/+276Someone needs to get a FOIA demand for any and all documents relating to this.
It would be interesting to find the truth behind this accusation. - JohnnyOhhh, on 08/06/2008, -5/+270We need to fix the government, not the internet.
"There is something horribly, treasonously wrong with a government by the people, for the people, that operates by lying to the people" (or something like that) - krnldmp, on 08/06/2008, -7/+263They'll call it part of the "War on Peace".
- skipthefrog, on 08/05/2008, -20/+268*****- we're screwed.
- christopherRB, on 08/06/2008, -8/+231This is what happens with both parties want to screw the regular people in the ass.
- icndvl, on 08/06/2008, -7/+18609-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C0
- sfacets, on 08/06/2008, -6/+162Um... the internet isn't located in the US.
- specialK16, on 08/06/2008, -6/+149“There’s going to be an i-9/11 event” which will act as a catalyst for a radical reworking of the law pertaining to the internet."
Annnnnd, are they going to blame anon as well? - duder83, on 08/06/2008, -7/+146iPatriot Act... was this implimented by Apple?
- blankoboy, on 08/06/2008, -9/+133It won't matter who is in the whitehouse. They are simply showmen for the real drivers out of the spotlight. It will be no different with Obama or McCain in office as they share the same interest.
Americans had their chance to make a change but they missed out - Kucinich, Paul, Gravel. - inactive, on 08/06/2008, -5/+124is pirate internet possible ?
- WTFppl, on 08/06/2008, -11/+115Unless you restricted IP numbers, I don't see how restricting the internets is possible. There are so many vast networks of social sites, news sites and forums. All someone would have to do to go around the corporations is set up a new network for people to connect to...The internet as it is, is here to stay. It can't be changed...Seriously people, shouldn't we be raiding the offices of the people who want this kind of control. Once we start scaring the ***** out of the authoritarian again, they'll back down for another 40 to 50 years, before those organizations of ideals try something like this again! Don't believe me, just look at history!
- inactive, on 08/06/2008, -19/+118Dear God, when are we going to get this guy out of the Whitehouse?
- casbar, on 08/05/2008, -12/+98Real scary but no surprise.
- davewashere, on 08/06/2008, -7/+86January '09, assuming we don't elect an older, more confused version of Bush in November.
- sandiegodude, on 08/06/2008, -18/+94"There’s going to be an i-9/11 event. Which doesn’t necessarily mean an Al Qaeda attack, it means an event where the instability or the insecurity of the internet becomes manifest during a malicious event which then inspires the government into a response."
Okay, who told this guy "You see, the Internet is a series of tubes..." and he believed it? ROFLMAO at attacking the stability or the security of the Internet.
# 1 - The Internet was designed from the start to withstand large scale attacks. There is no "Central Internet Location" for terrorists to attack. Bored 17 year old whizkids from suburban America are far more of a threat than Muslim terrorists.
# 2 - The United States does not "OWN" the Internet. It may have started here, it may be most proliferate here, but without bringing on the world community, there won't be any large scale changes to the Internet.
Sorry, but I'm burying this paranoia *****. The author is trying to create a new buzzword, i-9/11, using the same paranoia of the general public which is what our ***** president did in 2001 to get the Patriot Act passed in the first place. - Ethek, on 08/06/2008, -3/+79I'll lay the 'screwed' part out
Our politicians are clueless. This will single handily cripple the U.S. economy if it is not already brought down by our current failed credit based system. We are a services based economy based on information exchange. We are long past being manufacturing based because of our credit system having off-shored most jobs.
If information exchange is not free and open then the opportunities brought by it will go somewhere else. We may have help create the internet. The politicians no longer own it. Anyone left in this country will further be melded into corporatism as companies will be able to have an even greater lock on how information is handled and processed (regulated) Politicians are in the pockets of lobbiest, Democrats and Republicans. All of them will bend the law to suite the big contributors. Even better, since companies will control the information and everything we do is now usually filtered/funneled through an internet connected device this will basically allow them to tell you what to think by limiting the information available to you.
People who cheer for more regulation to help protect the little guy have been leading us down this road to fascism. Handing your freedoms and liberties to politicians for 'protection and planning' (liberalism) has allowed for the the centralization of power. Politicians have far more power over your destiny than they are allowed to have, most of it outside the constitution.
This is way past having big brother in your home. This will allow the government to prosecute things previously considered 'thought crimes' perhaps even enforced morality. Who is going to decide those morals for you to live by?
Land of the free my ass. - WakeUpToFreedom, on 08/06/2008, -0/+76Just like they didn't stand for China's censorship requests?
- f4nt0m4s, on 08/06/2008, -2/+67Remember when the RIAA tried to shut down the Pirate Bay and they kept moving servers? How is the United States government going to enforce some global i-Patriot Act? Do you really think countries across the globe are going to let the United States come and arrest people for saying something over the Internet?
That would seem like a pretty good cause for the rest of the world to go to war with the US. - TravisOwens, on 08/06/2008, -1/+63That's amazing, I've got the same exact code on my luggage!
- RyanOC, on 08/06/2008, -9/+68About time, I'm tired of all this freedom. ;)
- dondara, on 08/06/2008, -2/+59Nah, there are power-hungry ***** everywhere. China hasn't cornered that market ...yet.
- CeeAyy, on 08/06/2008, -1/+51How would they get it done? This is such a simple thing to pull off, but first, let's start at the beginning. For those of you that are still sleeping, this is much larger than the USA. As crazy as this is about to sound, this is related to central banking, etc. If you think the USA is the leader on this, you are not seeing the "man behind the curtain".
With that said, one more thing. The person behind the steering wheel is not necessarily the one who decides where the car goes. In this case the USA is the chauffeur.
Now, as for the comment about the internet no being located in the USA... First, there are less than a dozen main hubs that ALL internet traffic goes through. You would only really need to control those points. Second, you only need to coerce or convince the nations where those hubs reside. Considering the idea that most nations leaders don't really like free speech, it shouldn't be a hard sell. As for convincing the population, that's simple. Either wrap it in the guise of stopping child pornography or piracy OR... promising protection from terrorists. Fear is a very strong motivator... just ask the mafia. It's not limited to that, those just happen to be the most used ploys. Corruption and blackmail are sure to be employed as well.
My basic advice for anyone who doesn't believe that it is possible... Don't be so arrogant as to think that if you can't figure out a way that someone else hasn't and don't be so naive as to think that there aren't people who are interested in controlling the whole world. Julius and Adolf were real people with doable agendas. What makes you think that people like that no longer exist. - gerryk, on 08/06/2008, -0/+48http://www.torproject.org/
- inactive, on 08/06/2008, -12/+59Google won't stand for this, in Google i trust
- gobbleplex, on 08/06/2008, -0/+46I remember that there was a lot of hope that encouraging China to give its citizens economic freedom would open the floodgates of social freedom. Instead what has happened is that China has found a way to maintain an authoritarian state that is fed by its new capitalist engine.
Now that the west sees that such a thing can be done, why do we assume that *any* of our own democracies are safe from politicians who seek to emulate China's example? - N3M3515, on 08/06/2008, -4/+49Americans DID NOT have a chance for "change", all of the for mentioned where beaten down by the mainstream media and NEVER given the same respect as the "chosen" few.
- CrushThemTorg, on 08/06/2008, -0/+42Lights out – Guerilla internet. Turn that ***** up.
- thelastcivilian, on 08/06/2008, -1/+43How much tinfoil would I need to build a WiFi range extender that would cover the globe?
- ayeroxor, on 08/06/2008, -12/+53"Internet Censorship is On it's Way."
Censorship is on it is way? - SpookyET, on 08/06/2008, -8/+49America has the censorship and propaganda that communist states had during the cold war. You drink the "free country" Kool-aid and believe it. It's not free. The internet is the last bit they have not barb-wired. Want freedom? Move to Amsterdam.
- sfacets, on 08/06/2008, -0/+38Yes, if we can pool the billions needed to run our own intercontinental cables...
Or if we all used and shared Wifi... - inactive, on 08/06/2008, -0/+37Digg already has editors that pick stories. MrBabyMan, Msaileem, Zaibatsu, etc...
- emkaysmith, on 08/06/2008, -2/+35You really don't get it, do you? The "attack" in question, when it comes, doesn't have to be a REAL threat. It only has to give the government an excuse. It only has to be capable of becoming a carefully manipulated red flag. Not unlike the government fanning the flames of anti-Arab paranoia in order to get Congress to pass the original Patriot Act.
- cartisdm, on 08/06/2008, -0/+33My network is Hot Guy Next Door and it's not encrypted. Quick, everyone join!!!
- StingingNettle, on 08/06/2008, -1/+33Yeah, China doesn't own the Internet either. They now have more users than the U.S. and successfully censor it.
- iWANTmySNback, on 08/06/2008, -0/+32Fastest turn around time for FIOA that I have personally witnesses in 6 months. and that was only 20 pages long.
Also..... this title brings one thought to mind. "Do I live in China?" - inactive, on 08/06/2008, -1/+33why do you think wimax is not going anywhere. imagine if you had a wimax base station and lived near work. no cell phone charges. big uncensored add-hoc networks in cities. lots of freedom. government hates freedom.
- gobbleplex, on 08/06/2008, -0/+31"Do you really think countries across the globe are going to let the United States come and arrest people for saying something over the Internet?"
Yes. Especially when they realize that it's a great way to supress their own citizens. - PDF84, on 08/06/2008, -6/+37iPatriot Act ? Apple doesn't already have that copyrighted??
- griz, on 08/06/2008, -2/+33You are free to do what we let you.
- inactive, on 08/06/2008, -10/+41Yeah, the government would never lie to us.
- inactive, on 08/06/2008, -1/+31If you believe Obama would not sign this legislation you are not a very smart person. It does not matter who wins in November, if this legislation is placed on the desk of either Obama or McCain I guarantee you it will be signed.
- inactive, on 08/06/2008, -6/+34"The facts are there, and they tell a story of government incompetence, not government malice."
Let's see here:
Torturing people.
Invading a country illegally and fabricate evidence to convince congress.
Testifying to congress about fabricated evidence.
FISA
Patriot act
Denying human rights to POW.
No-bid defense contracts given by the government to companies largely owned by government officials and their families.
Censorship of war coverage
Providing talking points and even entire scripts to the MSM to lie to the entire american population.
Lying under oath.
Outing CIA agents.
Anti-constitutional laws
Pretending the tenth amendment doesn't exist.
Funding terrorism
Funding coups against democratically elected governments in sovereign countries.
Providing weapons to anybody who has money, as long as it furthers american interests.
Sponsoring a state that commits crimes against humanity on a daily basis.
Rigging elections
Am I forgetting anything? - fuhcough, on 08/06/2008, -3/+30Good idea.
Unfortunately it'll be years before you actually receive the documentation. Then, you'll go to share it with us Diggers but Digg will have been shut down.
Luckily the government will have left one site still standing that meets its stringent "for your own good" criteria: 2girls1cup.com. - scojac, on 08/06/2008, -1/+28Hell no, if you lived in China your economy would be booming.
- wynja, on 08/06/2008, -13/+40It's time to burn Washington to the ground.
- DryMaltExtract, on 08/06/2008, -0/+25America, the new China.
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