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- frsrblch, on 10/17/2008, -2/+308If hitting it with a hammer doesn't work, just hit it again. I've yet to come across a problem I couldn't overcome through the application of more force.
- lazyslacker, on 10/17/2008, -25/+234I accidentally the whole passport.
- hoisonsauce, on 10/17/2008, -2/+155Man I hope you don't run into quicksand.
- esc27, on 10/17/2008, -0/+120Another problem solved by violence...
- emazur, on 10/17/2008, -19/+136So it's illegal to tamper with a device that itself is likely unconstitutional. So you can either live with it, or risk jail time w/o it. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. BTW does anyone have any links to credible articles on the constitutionality of this chip?
- inactive, on 10/17/2008, -9/+121::cue's 'Hammer Time'::
- joshhan, on 10/17/2008, -7/+88You wouldn't happen to be a windows server admin, would you?
- iritegood, on 10/17/2008, -3/+79http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screens ...
Know your memes, diggers. - ThreeE, on 10/17/2008, -14/+83How exactly would the RFID chip be unconstitutional?
Really -- I'm just asking. - SmartfulDodger, on 10/17/2008, -6/+66It's possible it violates Right to Privacy laws.
On the other hand, it may be legal yet a dangerous idea. In which case, we would need new laws to make it unconstitutional. - mannymix03, on 10/17/2008, -0/+54If you're an engineer just hit it with a wrench, fixes everything
- NachoDaddy, on 10/17/2008, -0/+52The fact that I dugg an article whose sole purpose is to convey the idea of "WHACK IT WITH A HAMMER" is what's sad.
- cogit0, on 10/17/2008, -11/+573) Forget about nuking it in the microwave – the chip could burst into flames, leaving telltale scorch marks. Besides, have you ever smelled burnt passport?
- inactive, on 10/17/2008, -6/+40the fact that this article has the means to exist is truly saddening.
- Scira, on 10/17/2008, -4/+33can someone explain this meme to meme?
- joshhan, on 10/17/2008, -2/+28Sounds like instructions for breaking someone's neck...
- inactive, on 10/17/2008, -5/+28@ willdiggforfood: you've already proven yourself to be petty. digg me down if you can't stand the truth.
- TheSabre, on 10/17/2008, -5/+27SmartfulDodger, specter19:
Your passport itself, in paper form, has FAR more personal information on it than the RFID chip. The chip simply has your passport ID number. - inactive, on 10/17/2008, -4/+26How many lines do you stand in at airports? How many people bump into you? How many people are sitting within a foot of you on a plane? It's easy to read an rfid chip. At least now you're aware of the risk so you're cognizant of it.
- elfprince13, on 10/17/2008, -1/+23just keep it one of those faraday cage wallets Wired had a tutorial for, and only take it out for the customs people.
- coyote1284, on 10/17/2008, -17/+38"making it easy for officials – and hackers – to grab your personal stats" from less than a foot away
/scare tactics - BobbyMC, on 10/17/2008, -0/+20And parachute pants.
- jmeskimen, on 10/17/2008, -7/+27As someone who just spent the summer in Europe, you may want to think twice about disabling the chip. You will face much more questioning and scrutiny entering literally every country if they cannot read the chip. It's not that big of deal, but just be prepared to spend a little more time going through immigrations.
- caffiendkitten, on 10/17/2008, -0/+20its like putting a CD in the microwave for a few seconds. it will pop and spark but if you dont leave it in there for mass amounts of time it will be fine and just not work. no fires.
- aarons44, on 10/17/2008, -1/+20It's not illegal. I mean, they would have to prove that you smashed it intentionally. That was one of the big jokes when these things came out. It's not illegal to have a passport in which the chip isn't working, and you can't be denied access to and from a country now because of it. It would be easy to say that is was broken on a trip. Especially now with all the checked baggage charges. Everyone is just going to cram everything into their carry-ons anyhow, even the heavy stuff. Just say it was in the bottom of a heavy bag. Or since it's much easier to use your passport to cross the border, just say you damaged it in a drunked weekend at Niagara Falls.
Or go the faraday route. - Scira, on 10/17/2008, -0/+19The technical term is called percussive maintenance.
- ObeseSnake, on 10/17/2008, -7/+25Tin foil wrap.
- uiguy3, on 10/17/2008, -0/+18....with a hammer
- falstaff, on 10/17/2008, -0/+18Isn't that actually how you ENABLE a nail?
- cinder, on 10/17/2008, -0/+17http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/910f/ -- RFID Blocking Passport Billfold
http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/a7a2/ -- Stainless Steel RFID Blocking Passport Sleeve - dave122, on 10/17/2008, -1/+17::cue's “U Can't Touch This”::
- hotpuck6, on 10/17/2008, -2/+18Same motto I use with the girlfriend.
- bdfariello, on 10/17/2008, -0/+15May the Force be with you.
- specter19, on 10/17/2008, -2/+16I would think it would be unconstitutional because it infringes upon your privacy and personal information. but i don't know if that is considered unconstitutional, since I'm Canadian and therefore have no idea what's on you're constitution.
- catbeller, on 10/17/2008, -0/+14Well, ENOUGH force will move quicksand.
- q1006662, on 10/17/2008, -0/+14The RFID tag is located beneath the RTFA cover.
- phauwn, on 10/17/2008, -3/+17Though I'm not crazy about getting an RFID chip in my passport, I do believe they have radio shielding so they can only be read when open.
- usemanzana, on 10/18/2008, -0/+13Because it is awesome. Go find a crappy old free one, then put the CD in, and see for yourself.
- springboks, on 10/17/2008, -4/+17...and why do I want to do this to my very expensive US passport? It's not like there's a GPS device in there. Is uncle Sam watching us?
Remember when there was hub-ub in the news about these chips and passports not even made in the USA. Our passports are made in China! - TheSabre, on 10/17/2008, -0/+13How? RFID is not trackable "at all times". Are they installing RFID readers for passports in cars, houses, restaurants, etc? In fact, the government encourages you to lock up your passport in a safe deposit box or firebox when it is not needed for travel. How can they track you at all times?
- lowtolerance, on 10/17/2008, -0/+13wtf are you guys saying?
- Ki77erB, on 10/17/2008, -5/+18I would also like a brief history to this meme.
edit: Found it
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/I_accidentally_X
bonus pic of W. included! - FlyingPhotog, on 10/17/2008, -7/+18"I've yet to come across a problem I couldn't overcome through the application of more force."
Iraq War? - TheSabre, on 10/17/2008, -0/+11Actually, ncc, per the State Department at travel.state.gov
"The chip in the passport is just one of the many security features of the new passport. If the chip fails, the passport remains a valid travel document until its expiration date."
And lusenok, the information on the chip is a single ID number. There is no personal information on the chip. There is more information in textual form on the passport. - wackyronpauI, on 10/17/2008, -1/+121 second will not burn anything, try your old one.
- m85476585, on 10/17/2008, -4/+15SmartfulDodger: There is no Right to Privacy law. It is *implied* in the bill of rights and now exists as a precedent set by the Supreme Court in Griswold v. Connecticuit and other cases.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/c ...
Even if we assume that the right to privacy exists (that is, it will clearly be upeld in future court decisions), I don't know if an RFID chip violates your right to privacy, since, as part of the consitution, right to privacy would only apply to privacy from the government--the government won't look through your stuff, but they also won't keep other people from looking through your stuff because that is up to the states (with trespassing laws). I'm not sure how that works with these passports, though, since they are provided/required by the government. I think they do have a responsibility to keep information on the chip secure--use encrypted RFID chips and make it so the passport can't be read unintentionally (I think they do have metal in the cover to shield them when they are closed).
A better solution than destoying the RFID chip would be to just keep your passport in tinfoil. I have an RFID ID card that activates RFID scanners for building entry when I just walk within 3 feet of the scanner. Since the building is unlocked during the day, I put tinfoil in my wallet around the ID card, and it does not activate the scanner unless I actually touch my wallet to the scanner, and even then it does not always work. With more tinfoil, I could probably keep it from working completely. Another thing that helps is to put other RFID chips around the one you want to block since it confuses the scanner. Active jamming on the frequency the RFID chips use would probably work too, though the FCC wouldn't be very happy about that. - SmartfulDodger, on 10/17/2008, -1/+11Sabre,
You're correct. I would argue the difference between the two is in the accessibility of that information, and the security holes that might be experienced. Put bluntly, electronic data can be copied more easily and conspicuously than can data on paper and ink. - inactive, on 10/18/2008, -2/+12Why the ***** would you put a CD in the microwave?
- emazur, on 10/17/2008, -0/+10I'm not saying I know for sure whether or not it's constitutional, that's why I was asking diggers who have looked into this to provide links for evidence either way. Having briefly looked around the net there seems to be evidence suggesting this chip violates one's rights to privacy, it can be read remotely by a 3rd party with an RFID reader, and it's information can be hacked. Here are a few links I dugg up:
http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/RFID/RFID_p ...
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081002-rfid ...
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/77 ...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/06/daily_mail ...
http://www.amazon.com/Spychips-Major-Corporations- ...
Once again, I'm not claiming I know with any certainty whether or not RFID chips in passports can be considered unconstitutional, I just want to open this topic up for discussion. I will admit I am distrustful of the government, and have posted a few links that give reasons to oppose this chip. If you want to counter these arguments go ahead, or if you are taking the position that while the chip may have its faults, it does more good than harm, then feel free to present your side of the story - specter19, on 10/17/2008, -0/+9I figured out the conclusion of the article before i even clicked the link. the pic pretty much explains it.
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