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- coollettuce, on 05/06/2008, -3/+48Not enough! Get to work maties! Arr!
- inactive, on 05/06/2008, -4/+35Personally, I take this as a challenge.
- deceiver117, on 05/06/2008, -1/+22How old is that image? It says "Copyright 2002-2004".
Edit: looked further into the Article and it says for the year of 2005 - macwac, on 05/06/2008, -0/+11Ofc ISPs wouldn't show that kind of data.. you'd realize they were screwing you over!
- sonnysavage, on 05/06/2008, -0/+10I was hoping it would answer questions, but instead it asked some very valid ones. I, for one, am tired of all the secrecy surrounding ISPs. It seems that more and more they have something to hide. When companies that have a huge consumer base are secretive like that, it's usually because the consumer is getting screwed.
- mprice177, on 05/06/2008, -4/+12Just a friendly reminder- Please seed your torrents. Go Demonoid!!!
- zmigliozzi, on 05/06/2008, -0/+7A Span of 3 hrs, from 2005... A little outdated.
- spikes, on 05/06/2008, -0/+6Teksavvy has some recent protocol specific percentage graphs. These graphs are sampled from a percentage of the total overall bandwidth so it does give an accurate representation.
Notice how P2P comes up short here also.
See them here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20252608-How-much ... - aenima987, on 05/06/2008, -0/+5as a devoted ninja, this is the only situation where pirates are awesome
- rmxz, on 05/06/2008, -0/+4Sure - but which of those other protocols are used widely enough that it'd show up on such graphs?
A whole lot of people pinging stuff just for fun? - Waiting2awake, on 05/06/2008, -0/+4Way back in the day on TechTV there was a show called "Big Thinkers" - awesome. One of the shows that I was lucky enough to get was with Larry Lessig on copyrights. Simply amazing on how well he dissects the trouble and succinctly states it as "You'd be silly to have the dinosaurs in charge, because of course, dinosaurs are only interested in survival"
- Waiting2awake, on 05/06/2008, -0/+3True - but most consumers don't know enough to make informed decisions, so they have to relay on the information they do get - which is generally from the same business that has a vested interest in keeping them ignorant.
- rmxz, on 05/06/2008, -0/+3Interesting. What's all that "not TCP/UDP" stuff? I'm surprised how large it is.
- techfish, on 05/06/2008, -0/+3That would be other transport layer protocols besides TCP and UDP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_layer
- smacksaw, on 05/06/2008, -1/+4Clearly P2P is a problem because it eliminates the need for push TV services like cable. On-demand video from YouTube is replacing the cable companies' stupid business model and they're trying to lobby the gov't to protect them. End of story.
- thebloodvayne, on 05/06/2008, -0/+3The bandwidth argument is essentially another way to make us pay more money for the same internet we're using right now. ISPs aren't doing themselves any good by withholding the data from the consumers. It just makes them look like an ass.
- zievo, on 05/06/2008, -0/+3'You guys, the FCC, have to start policing the network and getting this file sharing off the network.'
I can't really see how'd they'd do that: http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-encrypt-bittorrent- ... - InsaneOni, on 05/06/2008, -1/+3I wonder how much of that "other TCP" is bittorrent. When you're using encrypted BT they can't tell if you're file sharing or not.
- Braingoo, on 05/06/2008, -1/+3no you both are but him slightly less for the mere mention of Iron man.
- spikes, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2Well digg wouldn't let me re-edit it so here it is again. http://tinyurl.com/2w7uwo
- dupswapdrop, on 05/06/2008, -0/+2How much of the traffic on the Internet is just dumb ads? I bet a lot more bandwidth is used on ads than P2P.
- iRelinquish, on 05/06/2008, -1/+3if you would have read the comments above you, some one stated its from 2005.
- oreo2123, on 05/06/2008, -0/+22005??? um...in the tech world that is like releasing a report about our "failing economy" based on numbers from the 1960s...seriously.
- mossblaser, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1Games are designed to use sod all band width, thus it is lower than most would expect.
- greeniemeani, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1Whoah! Is that picture of all those green tubes what the internet looks like?
- heystoopid, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1Sad , if they had used Miro they would not have had the problem in the first place !
Just goes to show some people are just far too dumb to see the obvious thus "Idiocracy" rocks ! - techfish, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1I suppose.
- heystoopid, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1So both the MPAA/RIAA are telling even bigger fibs then ever before about p2p killing music and film when they themselves are in reality doing a better job then the intertubes at killing their own business because of basic stupidity and total greed !
Sweet :) - kraftj, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1Kip: Napoleon, like anyone can even know that.
Rico: You know what, Napoleon? You can leave.
Napoleon: You guys are retarded! - uggyed, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1What about all the files that are "shared" via sites like rapidshare and other file-hosting places? That's not P2P...but the net is full of 'em. Not that I'm complaining...
- polko, on 05/07/2008, -0/+1internet is about porn.
- mgrest, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1PlusNet, the UK ISP had a great blog about just this and how they actually manage the traffic that flows through their network. Well worth a read:
http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/08/iplayer- ... - johnmearns, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1I'm all for IPTV becoming big and turning into a success but if you think youtube is replacing anything at this time you're not being a realist. Its a great place to watch cats do tricks and people get hit in the crotch but its not taking anything away from cable tv.
- Genma, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1the only thing we can really trust isps to do is lie, lie, lie. all they see is dollar signs flowing through their tubes, thinking how many times can we charge for this tremendous amount of data. oh look we can use numbers to make it seem really huge because common folk have no frame of reference, so much that we can claim we're not getting paid for all of it. because somehow this data just "passes" or "floats" or "dumps" in our tubes for free sometimes, because we didn't catch it. that sneaky data, we got to keep an eye on it.
- LANjackal, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1Ummm ... this article doesn't really provide any new facts or data. Buried.
- EricJD, on 05/06/2008, -1/+2Surprising how little bandwidth games use.
- tmcdigg, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1I think others are on the correct track here; data types like bittorrent do not necessarily correlate with pirated content. FYI; the ISPs and Backbone providers are very tight lipped about the volume & types of data moving through their networks for very good reasons.. some are competitive based (it would reveal their costs associated with operating their network.. a closely guarded secret when negotiating peering relationships with other networks) and the liability issue that revealing what content pours over the network, that they may end up in a legal brier patch which ends up costing tons of money to un-wrinkle. These companies aren't in the business of handing out money just because content holders are upset at the volume of piracy which takes place over their networks. There is a data agnostic policy for good reason. These companies make a healthy profit which is also a closely guarded secret, they don't boast about it, but it's true. Take some of that data away, ban users, throttle, cap, etc.. they don't make as much money-- plain & simple.
- neocr0n, on 05/06/2008, -0/+1I read an article somewhere recently, I forget where but it said that sites like Youtube and other on demand TV sites etc had overtook file sharing as the number 1.
- brianara3, on 05/06/2008, -1/+2... Ad plant?
- heystoopid, on 05/06/2008, -2/+2Don't forget that since 90% of the say a minimum of nearly four billion computers in active use across the world wide net of tubes are M$ windows based with the bulk using Windows 2000/XP getting daily updates of both AV/AT/M$ security/other patches then there is a large part of your answer !
There are a few other large volume users that would fall into that category too as well ! - nusuni, on 05/06/2008, -3/+3Porn makes up 90% of traffic.
What? Someone had to say it. - johnmearns, on 05/06/2008, -0/+0While I'm up for a good conspiracy theory now and then, you also should realize that yours has no logic. As an ISP I pay for the bandwidth that my customers use. "Witholding" bandwidth wouldn't do me any good, I realize the more I give my customers the better. It eventually becomes a matter of how much I can buy.
- brianara3, on 05/06/2008, -0/+0But, you are not Comcast, AT&T, Time Warner, Verizon, etc. They own 50%+ of the network they run on, therefore don't pay for as much bandwidth usage. They can also hide a lot of statistics data because of this.
- Maxpower57, on 05/06/2008, -1/+1oh god the RIAA is gonna be pissed if they take this the wrong way
just to make sure we're clear. the 40% of files being file sharing does *not* mean that 40% of the internet is for pirating.
the data is slanted in the fact that it uses total data packets.
which consumes more data packets: a movie or a website?
so pirates are going to be down around - canarchy, on 05/06/2008, -1/+1are you a fricking idiot?
- inactive, on 05/07/2008, -1/+1'90%' - We've got another perCUNTage being used like its a ***** fact here.
- BigManOnCampus, on 05/06/2008, -1/+1As has probably been stated elsewhere, this shouldn't be a surprise.
The torrent system is designed so that you are typically downloading from the people closest to you, which means that the files get passed around the fringe(s) of the internet. Web traffic always goes straight through major hubs whenever it has to. It should then come as no surprise that filesharing uses less. - eigenweasel, on 05/06/2008, -2/+1=======
Chain INPUT (policy DROP 15M packets, 916M bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
382M 260G ACCEPT all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.0.0/16
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 431M packets, 420G bytes)
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Ooh, quite a lot I'd say. - CarStan, on 05/06/2008, -3/+2wich one is Usenet?
(I am not god with computers) - shutter54, on 05/06/2008, -5/+3Now lets break down how much of that web traffic is pr0n...
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