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- isuisorisuaint, on 10/12/2007, -12/+130all your text are belong to us
- krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -4/+52This article barely describes massive concepts and has absolutely 0 technical information. The title is a question, thus warrants an answer. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even remotely be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
- filefly, on 10/12/2007, -5/+47im in ur network stealin ur textz
- RatherDashing, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35I consider myself a "serious techie" and wouldn't have the first clue as to where to get a hacked cell phone firmware to get other people's text messages. Also, wouldn't that get annoying, every couple of seconds getting someone else's cutesy "no, no, I love you more" text message on your cell phone? Who cares.....
- interg12, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31Dugg, because now i can interecept awesome messages from high school kids, like "where r u?", and "what up". my life just got that much more excititng.
- dilbertmouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25Is anyone familiar with the legalities of these practices? According to the article, cell phone cloning is illegal, but nothing is mentioned about the legality of these firmware updates. Is cloning my own phone illegal? When using these firmware updates, is it possible to filter out all but your own number? Or would that be illegal as well?
P.S. Thanks to Slate for writing a rather informative article, especially where the NY Times couldn't! - cblalock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20i vote for legislation limiting underscore abuse.
- zeromancer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I see people saying how completely useless this would be. But use your imagination. I know you have it:
- Clone the cell of your significant other when you suspect she is cheating.
- Be a cheap bastard and get free and anonymous cell phone usage
- Do something like the guy in the article did, but maybe get trade secrets or something and make a lot of money.
None of these are ethical, except maybe the first one. But there's many useful things to do, and there's also the rush of doing really tricky stuff like this that few other people can do. Same kind of fun as wardriving when you did it the first time. ZOMG! i pwn3d this d00dz netw0rk! h1s r0uter p4ss was d3f4ult! ... you know it was fun the first time you did it. - Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10WTF has that got to do with profit?
- NitrousFlare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10LOL put your cell phone on top of theirs before the text is received!
INTERCEPTED - imants, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I forget the URL, but Howard Chui's forums have great resources for doing all sorts of fun stuff with your cell phones. It might be howardchui.com, but I'm on a firewall and can't really check.
- JustVince, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@djlosch dugg for quoting Billy Madison
- Obsidian743, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Methinks rip747 is a troll for one of the big carriers...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10ipodsweatshop, where on EARTH do you get your information from? TDMA, CDMA and GSM (subset of TDMA) are all methods of transferring bits between a mobile phone and a base station. It has nothing to do with detecting a cloned phone and your telephone number. That is at the telecom operator infra-structure level.
GSM is superior in a number of ways, and inferior in others. Superior with GSM: longer battery life, cheaper to produce, can be used anywhere in the world. Superior with CDMA: more efficient use of bandwidth, less likely to drop a call. Unfortunately CDMA technology is patented to the hilt by Qualcomm meaning it is unlikely to leave the small backwaters of the USA. GSM will remain the overall superior standard for the foreseeable future. If Apple want to be able to use the latest phone technology that is mass produced to a cheap price, they will have to go GSM.
Phillip. - Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7You can do anything you want with your own phone, however, the second your phone starts intercepting messages, info or data NOT meant for you, transmitted on a line not public (i.e. a phone call) you reach over the line into illegal territory.
Unlike the actual article about the walmart case states, it IS illegal to tape, monitor, etc. someone's phone call without their permission if the data capture is done as a third party not involved in the transfer of data. This means that if party A was talking to party B either one could record the others conversation without telling the other person. However, if party C decided to listen in, that's illegal. Now it's a little greyer in the "what if you're using company equipment?" area, but generally the same because of lack of enforcement of rules such as "Don't use company equipment for personal purposes". It's not very often you'll find a company that strictly enforces a policy like that, it's mainly meant for prevention, however if it's not enforced, that basically means it doesn't exist, which would make tapping the phones illegal.
There's quite a bit more to it, but this is the quick and dirty. And this is also not meant as legal advice, get your ass busted at your own risk :P - supafuzz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7http://www.howardforums.com/
- jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@djlosch
Agreed. This article was the most pointless waste of time I've experienced in quite a while. Wait.. you can duplicate a phone by copying its SIM card?! Who would have thought of that! You're also telling me that you can add functionality to device by putting hacked firmware on it? Wow! The content of this article would have been better this way:
How Do You Intercept Someone Else's Text Message?
I don't know, how do YOU intercept someone else's text message? - guitarh3ro, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11It kind of makes you wonder why the Wal-Mart employee went to all of that trouble...While this all sounds rather interesting, I wonder how many people have actually pulled it off (or at least tried)?
- SystemError, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6he needed the cash to pay off the guy who hacked his cell phone for him
- JoeHeavyFlow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Just steal their phone... less chance of getting caught
- allyant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Links? For firmware, got to ask :P
- laterallateral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The Explainer explained very little. With sadness, The Explainer contemplates it's failure at life.
- BlackCow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh noes, your "1337 hax0r" talk is blowing my mind!
- Al3x, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6http://www.howardchui.com/
is a valid URL about cell phones... - rkenward, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3why did he ever even work for walmart in the first place? must be for the bitches.
- kualla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3and to think I read all these comments hoping that someone could actually answer the question.....
- saska, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Genuine question: the article hints at ways to clone and intercept phone traffic. But how do you know when a GSM phone has been cloned? Does the cell carrier see it when the two phones both claiming to have the same SIM chip are at different towers?
- jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe he just saw someone at McDonalds using a bluetooth headset.
- SystemError, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yea sure, the VHF and UHF frequencies of those things are way to different form the complex frequency range and encryption of cell phones
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ok I'm a cell guru at least as I consider myself. I've never messed around on the GSM networks, but the cdma networks are easy to mess around with. To change a phone you just need to change the ESN, MIN, SSDA, SSDB, and the A-Key. You can do it all with a 5 dollar link cable for your phone bought off of e-bay. I'm not sure if it's legal to do it on your own phone.. but i did it and it has some interesting effects. If you text yourself the other phone receives it, and stuff like that. It's pretty cool though, such as if you need a backup phone in case of emergency you can put one in your car in your glove box or something.
- redmachodevil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I totaly agree, this guy was wasting his time working at wallyworld with his skillset... it just does not add up!
- Obsidian743, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5lame
- chrisrowe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Apart from the fact all of this is highly illegal there is a legal(ish) and easier way of doing it which I did to a friend once.
Its more of a social hack. And will only work if you have access to one or both of the people's mobiles you want to intercept.
Basically, nick their phone for 2 minutes, open up the contact list, and edit the other persons you want to intercepts phone number to your number. Do the same on the other persons phone and job done.
People rely on sending a message to a "name" in their phone rather than a number.
Now you receive messages from one person, and can forward them on to the other and each party thinks they are recieving it from the other person. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Surprise phonesex!
- muffinmanpoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@gogara,
No they can't. - waitasec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This article is completely stupid. The original article indicated there was equipment that was removed. If I'm using the technique described in THIS article I don't have to be anywhere near Walmart's communication center and you would never have found my equipment, even when I was stupid enough to have bragged. More likely Wal-mart uses a Blackberry type device with a server for redirection, or uses an internal IM client which makes intercepting text messages much easier. For the actual telephone calls I doubt cellphones were used, and instead they used landlines (Conference calls are horrible on cellphones). With a land line they could plug in and record (ancient), Or just use the software you know they already have to record anything to/from a particular extension or outgoing line down to an mp3
- ad0beaddict, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Direct link to testing site:
http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/test/ - nuts&bolts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I do IT work in NW Arkansas which is where the Wal-Mart home office is and what I see is a lot of in offices all over the area is Blackberry redirector system plugged into the server. This allows text messages to be recieved as email through the exchange system on the server. So more than likely the tech just put in a email redirect to his account, not very Uber.
- kailiwa123, on 03/07/2009, -0/+0can you let me know in more detail how to do this? - thinking that when they want to call that person, it'll call me? sorry i'm not good with technology....
I know nothing's been written in a while about this, but it would be really HANDY right NOW!! - kailiwa123, on 03/07/2009, -0/+0The phone I want redirected is just a plain LG telus phone, not blackberry, and I have a Telus Touch... how do I intercept his texts to my cell or Email as you were saying? Thanks
- AgeXVII, on 03/23/2009, -0/+0any way to block this?
- dude187, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@ptemple "it is unlikely to leave the small backwaters of the USA."
A nice post, until you completely ruined it with that line. People act like the USA is completely irrelevant in any world discussion (well ok, not any logical people, just some people on digg) just because there are some ***** aspects to it. Well here comes the clue train, software patents and the Iraq war do not make the USA any less of a world power. - encepe21, on 12/11/2008, -0/+0problem.. i have accsess to one person's cell but not the other.. what should i do? firmware is hard to use(I'm assuming) and way too expensive.
- calvin717, on 11/22/2007, -0/+0Dont Know
- hueristix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0so if this guy had so much technical savvy why the heck was he working at WalMart?
- kaptainchump, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Instead of buying a $100+ scanner, having the frequencies unlocked to receive the signals ($$$), using an interface to tell the difference between spoken information and data (if possible), and wasting your time; why not use a device that's already built to do all that in a pocketable form factor and just copy the sim? $5 and easy(er) or $100+ and a pain in the arse.
- Lizzie4, on 06/04/2009, -0/+0Is there a software that I can use for my phone to intercept to someone else's text message?
- encepe21, on 12/11/2008, -0/+0zeromancer, the first one is ethical and i'd love to know how to do that. i don't have accsess to the other target phone. i know i can trust my fiance, but a couple months back, i started including him in my plans with my good friend Lindsay. he showed an interest in her right away and asked me for her number. after that, he would always talk to her and text her. i started to catch on and got really upset that he was showing her so much attention and then i didn't notice him talking to her as much. but lately, we've been getting in little arguments and one night we were watching TV and he got a text he usually doesn't care if i peek at who is texts are from, but this time, he cupped his hands over the side of his phone and i'm concerned he was texting Lindsay. and now i'm concerned he's seeing her.
ever since that night, i've been trying not to loose my cool about it, because i hate that i can be nosy.
i don't see Lindsay as much anymore because we both have gotten really busy with our own jobs so therefore i can't really do the switcheroo with the numbers.
do you know of anything else i could do to hack in on his phone without seeming snoopy, or having to buy expensive software?
help! - dogsrule, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am interested in cloning my own cell phone, I do home visits in a very, very dangerous part of town and when I out walking to houses I would like to use my old phone to carry with me in case of emergency and keep my good phone in my glove box. Both are Motorola and if anyone could guide me through this I would greatly appreciate it. I am limited in my knowledge of cellphone technology, so please be gentle with me. If I did this would one phone have to be turned off, and would my text and voice mails only go to the phone that is on or would it go to both phones. Thank you
- thinkycap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"The Explainer".....
...is that like "The Decider?" -
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