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- btschul, on 08/02/2008, -0/+262Lets make a list children!!!!
1. Government can tap your phone without a warrant
2. Government can detain you indefinitely if the president deems you a "threat"
3. Government can track every single credit card transaction you make, as of the passing of the housing bailout bill
4. Government can search your laptop/pda/ipod/iphone/other device without probable cause
5. Government can read your emails and monitor your online activity.
Coming Soon!!!! Real-ID!! Ihre Papiere, bitte.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Ben Franklin - roynencore, on 08/01/2008, -0/+158History does repeat it's self. DHS starting to sound and act like another political group from our world past history.
- Dynasty911, on 08/01/2008, -0/+142Whatever happened to freedom and privacy?
- rednoise, on 08/02/2008, -0/+116Tourists won't visit the states, terrorists won't use laptops.
- caseycoold, on 08/01/2008, -2/+106Yeah, try and copy my data. I'm pretty sure my ***** is encrypted beyond what those tards can handle.
Or maybe we should all stay decrypted, and put KillThePresident.exe on our desktops ;-)
Hell, why is the government taking other people's laptops when they can't even hold onto their own? - justmarci, on 08/01/2008, -0/+93Dear DHS: Bite me.
- Lyght, on 08/02/2008, -3/+80Terrorism is just a buzzword. Stop taking away our freedoms because you think terrorists are all over the ***** place. 9/11's not gonna happen again. The Department of Homeland Security is a goddamn waste of taxpayers' money. They should have no right to seize the private property of innocent people.
Sorry, but I'm sick of the ***** our government can get away with these days. - DigitAl56K, on 08/02/2008, -0/+735th Amendment:
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
I believe that this is depriving a person of property without due process of law. - cheezintern, on 08/01/2008, -2/+66Another policy that will inevitably be declared unconstitutional..
- XxDeathxxStarxX, on 08/02/2008, -0/+64PAPERS! WHERE ARE YOUR PAPERS!
...and your online purchase records
...and your emails
...and the photos you took of the kids on vacation
...and any online memberships to unpopular organizations
...and all your saved phone numbers
...and the book sitting in the back seat
How did it come to this? - OneRottenTomato, on 08/02/2008, -0/+63What's is not even funny is that, everyday, I grow more and more scared of our government and far less the notion that I'll will come face to face with a real terrorist. Just exactly who are these "terrorists" who threaten to take our freedoms away, again? I'm confused.
- Amazetbm, on 08/02/2008, -0/+54They're about to piss off a bunch of international corporate travelers.
- insanebrain, on 08/02/2008, -0/+53Aaaargh, the nazi's are back !!!!
- Delphium226, on 08/02/2008, -0/+51Good point. The only people being terrorized will be US citizens being terrorized by their government.
- XxDeathxxStarxX, on 08/02/2008, -0/+51Let's not forget those virtual strip-searches in airports now.
- 3Den, on 08/02/2008, -5/+48They got a job in Europe.
- wiretapped, on 08/01/2008, -8/+50Ruining their own country and freedom of its citizens because of an artificial threat that they created through their false flag attack against the world trade center, building 7 and the pentagon, and then the anthrax delivered to congress.
- SaladCactusKing, on 08/02/2008, -10/+51I remember when Hitler demanded all laptops to be examined from the borders, it was pretty upsetting.
- techutopian, on 08/02/2008, -0/+41I guess I will have to start bringing a base install on my drive with me and put my business data on 8gb micro-sd cards and overnight them to my business destination just so I can keep my business data proprietary. My company spends a fortune on development of cutting edge technology and I will be damned if I am going to let them copy my files and give them to their cronies.
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -0/+37By the way, this is the new silver bullet for all electronic media........Claim that terrorists are trying to smuggle sensitive data and criminals are trying to smuggle child porn....
This gives them free reign to do whatever the heck they want because they used the words "terrorist" and "child porn"..............so for the .000000000000000001% of the time it happens, the rest of us must suffer. Go ***** yourself DHS, you worthless, bloated, bureaucratic waste. I hope I'm alive to see the day you are dissolved and we go back to our pre 9/11 investigating ways. - stretta, on 08/02/2008, -0/+36"Preventing customs agents from searching laptops "would open a vulnerability in our border by providing criminals and terrorists with a means to smuggle child pornography or other dangerous and illegal computer files into the country," Cunningham said."
Yes, because the only way to transfer files into the country is physically, on a laptop. Otherwise, that would open a huge vulnerability. Right. - wesdenton, on 08/02/2008, -2/+38What was it that Batman said in Gotham Knight? I believe he said he used quantum encryption? I need that *****.
- Akairenn, on 08/02/2008, -2/+36^
In a country where people like Dennis Kucinich - or heaven forbid, even more 'moderate' people showing concern over the potential for governmental abuse - are ostracized... How could it NOT come to this?
The fact is, nobody cares. The average American isn't crossing the border any time soon, if at all within their lifespan. No - you few - and you are few - who fly the world for business or pleasure, are most certainly not the 'average' American.
The average American is a retarded creature who doesn't care what happens to the country, as long as them there terr'ists ain't killin' us cuz of our freedums! What you sayin' 'bout the DHS, boy? You with them terr'ists? WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?!?!?! - johndi, on 08/02/2008, -2/+34If it's for the Homeland how could any red blooded American be against it? Fortunately homeland isn't a word Americans use to refer to our country so the name didn't work as well as planned. People can criticize DHS without being ostracized. However, I do believe the intent was to make DHS a nationalist symbol that would be beyond scrutiny. They may not have won with that name, but we can't let our guard down. They will keep trying.
- mr.hostility, on 08/02/2008, -0/+31It's not about stopping terrorism, that isn't even remotely their intension. The same person could encrypt a rar file, throw it up on a storage site, and download it when they returned home. They know this, but they don't care because this is all about control and what they can get away with. They love being able to buck the constitution, they love being able to do what they want, when they want. Notice how this went for stopping terrorism, to detecting illegal copyrighted materials, with a pinch of "oh noes child porn!!111!!!!" thrown in because they figure that will make the average person say, "Oh this law is necessary...for the children!". So the government can get back to the important task of rooting out pirates and serving the whims of the MPAA, and the RIAA with taxpayers money.
- motters, on 08/02/2008, -1/+32All of your laptops are belonging to us. Welcome to the new Soviet Union.
- XxDeathxxStarxX, on 08/02/2008, -1/+30
Life, Liberty, and Property...Well, I guess we still have life, right? - lithera, on 08/02/2008, -0/+29My guess is that you get two choices. Cooperate and hand over your passphrase, or don't cooperate and get marked as a terrorist and undergo treatment as such.
I hear the weather is good in Gitmo this time of the year. - inactive, on 08/02/2008, -1/+29All your laptop belong to us!
- PerfectV, on 08/02/2008, -0/+27So what exactly are they looking for, a thermal-nuclear .exe file? You have got to be kidding me. There is no possible way to defend this infringement on U.S. citizens rights.
- WorldGroove, on 08/02/2008, -6/+33I don't understand why cheezintern was dugg up.
For example, see PGP:
http://home.clara.net/heureka/sunrise/pgpsec.htm
With today's most powerful computers, it would still take well over 1,000 years to brute-force decrypt it - given the user had a quality passphrase. Unless the government has Alien-quantum-processors, or your passphrase is "12345", you're safe. - RedShoulder, on 08/02/2008, -0/+25"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Don't let fear (of anything) drive us to hand over even more of our liberties. The more I travel outside the US the more I see those that appreciate our freedoms the most are (usually) those that came here desperate for them. Those born here and have had these freedoms from day 1 are less likely to understand how fortunate we are. - dexedrine, on 08/02/2008, -0/+23www.truecrypt.org
- EllimistX, on 08/02/2008, -1/+22Hey, that's the combination on my luggage!
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -0/+20Homeland, Fatherland. The average citizen was politically castrated so long ago they've long since bypassed subtlety as even a passing requirement.
- kozEfx, on 08/02/2008, -4/+24hmmm all this information is encrypted. obviously you have something to hide, you terrorist. ok, now we not only hold your computer, we hold you indefinitely till you give us the password to your wmd plans, terrorist.
- Khast, on 08/02/2008, -0/+19Oh wait, this administration strongly believes in freedom FROM privacy. :(
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -0/+19The only way you'd take my personal or business laptop is from my cold dead hands DHS.
That or I'll just fedex the laptop to my destination and bring my P-P-P-P-POWER BOOK. - reverland, on 08/02/2008, -0/+18Welcome home comrade. Give me your laptop and your papers.
- mugicha, on 08/02/2008, -1/+19I logged in to dig you down. I'm not trying to be a dick, but seriously this kind of attitude is going to be our downfall. You can't trust these ***** *****. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and the only thing preventing this country from turning into Nazi Germany is an informed and cynical electorate. These people want to read your email, listen to your phone conversations, and rifle through your personal ***** on your laptop. They already have the power to declare you a terrorist and throw your ass in prison forever.
Hitler rose to power on the backs of naive, well intentioned people like you. The founders of this country built cynicism and a lack of trust for the man into the constitution. They did it for a reason. - andreusboy, on 08/02/2008, -2/+20What if I resist?
Frankly at this point I don't care. Give me liberty or give me death. - cheezintern, on 08/01/2008, -11/+29nope, just informed
- WoollyMittens, on 08/02/2008, -0/+18But who will protect us from our government?
- Tlacaelel, on 08/02/2008, -0/+17So uhmm, let's boycott China's Olympic Games because they're not a free and democratic country like us.
- sisko2k5, on 08/02/2008, -0/+17Unfortunately this HAS been deemed constitutional. It has gone up the courts before and was ruled okay. Now DHS isn't even the body doing the grabs its TSA right? Any which way you look at it, this will be incredible hard to revoke since precedence has been established already. Check out the wired story on it.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/04/border-ag ... - Tlacaelel, on 08/02/2008, -2/+18And Americans bash China because they don't have rights and freedom? lol
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -1/+17"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Ben Franklin - squeevey, on 08/02/2008, -1/+17Caseycoold,
I think you answered your own question. They are takin ours cause they cannot keep track of theirs. - homesteil, on 08/02/2008, -0/+14Welcome to oceania, please cease to think after crossing our border and don't make any sudden movements in the process. Thank You.
- inactive, on 08/02/2008, -0/+13They're in DC and they ARE taking away our freedoms. Only because we're letting them.
The Liberty Tree is thirsty. -
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