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- DoodlesMcPooh, on 10/12/2007, -6/+84Norton is a resource hogging piece of crap.
Anything that will make it less widespread is good.
Wish I could write a virus that uninstalls it and replaces it with a decent antivirus program. - Takteek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+49VIRUS DETECTED!
Unable to delete: Access denied.
Quarantine failure.
Unable to disinfect.
Error: This software sucks. - thefat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35If I was a malicious hacker I would target Symantec more than Microsoft also. Symantec is the #1 Security Software distributor. And for the average Internet "Family Home", all they run for security is Symantec Norton Internet Security.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32Check how much of your computer's resources Symantec products use. Then go get AVG if you're cheap, Nod32 if you don't mind buying a good product.
- sctechguy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31Ah, so you're to blame for all this crap, then?
- Sinn3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Ah Norton I owe it so much as the number one source for all computer/networking problems I get paid to fix.
If you have recently installed anything on your pc and you noticed total system slow down, the inability to shut down your pc properly, applications that previously worked fine suddenly locking up and an access to the internet becoming very restricted you may have just caught a virus but its more likely you were stupid enough to install Norton AV. This program is by far degrades your pc's performance alot more than most virii will.
Besides, the most dangerous hackers usually end up being employed by symantec as consultanta. It's a self fulfilling industry! - bicyclethief, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Even I don't run our AV on my dev box.
(By the way, I don't work on the AV component. I work on the anti-phishing component.) - richi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Tsk tsk, Time Warner. Don't you know that a patch for that's been available for six months? More at http://digg.com/security/Drop_Everything_and_Patch_Symantec_Mail_Security_for_SMTP
- finkployd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Hate to tell you (no I don't), but in the jolly ole UK (note the domain the article comes from) the date comes before the month.
- habenneas, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13CRACKER. Cracker, cracker, cracker, cracker, cracker, cracker, cracker, cracker!
Not hacker.
sheesh
/maybe should give up the word already
http://www.turingshop.com - DolphinGL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9People have so much angst towards Symantec for Norton. I suppose I can understand. Norton AV does suck huge.....
But for some odd reason, Symantec AV is fantastic. That's the one they offer for businesses to deploy over a network. It's non-obtrusive, not a resource hog at all, you totally forget it's there and working until it nails a piece of email or something. It still has yet to report a false positive or miss a virus. I've used ALOT of antivirus programs and I've been frustrated with them all to that point where I didn't even use AV on my system anymore, as the cure was often worse than the ailments.....that is, until I started using Symantec AV. Honestly the best AV proggy I've ever used.
Why they wouldn't market the same software to the home users makes no sense to me....Norton AV is awful. - bicyclethief, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12How weird...since I work for Symantec.
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Symantec can burn whole buildings if someone is careless.
- PeterBWiggin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7A pair of scissors is the cheapest and most protective piece of anti-virus equipment on the market for the consumer! Just apply directly to your ethernet cable!
- Kwipper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7AVG + Intelligence on the Internet = Virus Free Computer
- AlphaToxic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@ DoodlesMcpooh:
take a look here
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2034680,00.asp
and here
http://www.secureworks.com/research/threats/spamthru/
It does not delete Norton, but is close ;) - Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7at work people come in and buy it, I feel dirty when I have to sell it. I do however love when we are out of stock (or i cbf getting one and say we are out of stock :P) and then tell them "hey, dont waste that $100 on crap, go download a good one for free"
- S0m3dud3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I totally agree with you on that one, hackers will target the more widley used softare out there. Norton comes pre-installd on alot of computers, and most of the time people don't remove it, because if it's there and they got a free (insert time period) trial, then most prople think they may as well use it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10completely agree with you there on nod32. Nod32 is THE number one virus protection software in my opinion. doesn't really slow your computer too much at all. But if you want free, as I've seen with av comparatives research www.av-comparatives.org go and get yourself Avira Personal Edition classic. www.free-av.com HOORAY FOR NOD32 FOR BEING THE BEST!
- idevlabsdotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Nothing peaks my curiosity like an attachment from someone I don't know. How can people be expected to resist?
- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For once, running with out a virus scanner has saved me. :)
Out of curiosity... how many virus writers are not disgruntled? - rohell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4we have a W32.Rinbot outbreak here at WB Studios Lot in Burbank, CA. mostly because some of the machines were never upgraded to SP2, and using SAV 10.0..
It's been crazy... - secleinteer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Yeah, Symantec/Norton is a horrible, ramhogging piece of *****. Kaspersky Security Suite is the way to go.
- ricodued, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Are you getting a kick out of these replies?
- lolhax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Intelligence on the internet = Virus-free computer.
Never needed an antivirus, never will :) - xtreme2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sometimes I wonder how much of the actual virus/spyware/malware out there is actually written by companies like Symantec.
Without virus/spyware/malwares... they do not have a case for business. If you ask me they are more likely to write these than so called 'hackers'. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They're NOT hackers, they're crackers, and idiots trusting their data security to a clueless bunch like Symantec deserve what they get.
Microsoft release code that is so open to abuse that it's a joke. Symantec and McAfee and all the rest try to plug the holes left open by Microsoft's ineptitude. Crackers first target MS, then target the companies trying to cover the holes in the MS "operating systems". It's just a minor escalation in the virus war.
It's trivially easy to remotely get administrative access on any MS server. I think I'll upload a "security upgrade" to the "Windows Defender" page...
If you want to get out of this cycle of virus and trojan attacks, change your operating system to something that is entirely virus-proof. The permissions structure of Unix or Linux prevents viruses working (Apple OSX weakened the permissions structure in their underlying BSD with predictable results). It's time to make that move!
Game Over, Microsoft! - digitalarcanum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2please see above. These.. miscreants are not hackers in the same sense of "I hacked my PC to make it faster" Like myself and a good portion of the digg community, but these miscreants are crackers, or hackers that take advantage of exploits to cause as much damage as they possibly can.
- Rekzai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2AVG > MCAFEE
- TxDr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreeing with Dolphin.
Norton AV is a huge waste of resource, whereas my corporate business symantec AV is barely noticable in the background. I guess they are purposely creating problems for home users. /shrug - nhassan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3look at this way. if there weren't hackers out there, then there'd be no point in having security software. its a cycle of nature, in a very weird way.
0.o - brada33928, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Symantec and all its products are the suck. A waste of resources... whenever I see someone running the Internet Security Suite, I uninstall it.
- tokyokevin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been on hold in the support line for 30 minutes now, calling from Japan because the local Symantec Customer Support number, listed on teh Symantec site, is a sales number for Encyclopedia Brittanica in New Zealand. I've sent 3 tech support tickets, one online chapt session, and 4 calls to the US to solve an Activation problem. The last support person said he would send an address because he couldn't solve the problem. No email. Symantec support has some very large problems.
- Pyloff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Quoted "Let’s be honest, the best hacker in the world would be out of a job if users didn’t open infected applications in the first place!"
I'm not sure on this one but does "hacking" require the target to click a link or executable...
Sorry Hackers you have been officially demoted. - b0lt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3No, it most definitely is not 'virii'. Virus in Latin is a neuter mass noun, meaning that it doesn't have a plural, and if it did, it would be 'virus' (prounounced weeroos instead of weerus). Anyone using 'virii' is just trying to sound smart by using using pseudo Latin.
- Flamekebab, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3darksource, don't have kids.
- cbgaloot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've always trusted Norton. I know it's resource hog but it works for me. Sad to see it screwed this way
I'm on my way to check out AVG
A family Energy Farm, biodiesel, ethanol and pork chops - Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7pssst. its viruses
- EmperorAwesome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is real cowboy stuff. Kudos to the bravado.
- SuperJdynamite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This isn't new. For a few years there's been malware in the wild that detects the presence of security software and attempts to disable it or block signature updates.
- inobla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Obviously the hackers were going for the 2nd easiest target there is. The widely used and poorly written "antivirus/security" software that's way too busy eating up your resources to notice a real threat.
- capitocapito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is why I hate my college. Not only do they seem to work against anything Linux-related on our network, we are REQUIRED to have Symantec anti-virus.
- discochew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have a feeling I got that. My computer's running like crap, and Symantec won't run a scan, claiming it "can't access the the scan engine."
Probably got it off Bittorrent.
It's a school-provided computer, and looks like I'll have to bring it to tech services, which sucks. - underStated, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1". . . hackers have an open playing field and by exploiting weak points in the software . . ."
Weak points, huh? How about the inability to completely remove Symantec software without doing a full system wipe/reinstall?
Hack away for justice! - redxii, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I would hack Symantec into the ground.
- SmartITGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Conspiracy theorist says: This is probably Microsofties attacking Symantec's holdings in retaliation for Symantecs recently released white-paper on Vista Security.
- JIMMMYYYY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0mash 'em
- Trader76, on 07/24/2009, -0/+0I smile when people get hacked because they just know what I run on my laptop. www.bluepointsecurity.com When you can freely surf and not worry you know that you have the market.This always was weird to me scan off the viruses, why not block them with blue point.
- mswonderland, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This doesn't have anything to do with Symantec's mail security, it's their antivirus - period.
I ***** hate the chumps that did this, it's not just TW that got slammed (I think CNN might have been hit, too?). Because of this I don't think I've seen my bf for more than a couple of minutes in two days - a bunch of customers' servers at his work got compromised. -
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