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- Rowen7, on 10/10/2007, -1/+296Pick your fights wisely. Do not fight pirates.
Pirate fight Ninjas for a reason: they occasionally need a challenge. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+153now they are fighting back with a viral paranoia campaign against diggers...don't believe me? ... just check out the comments on all the other threads on this subject line, made by a BUNCH of new users....
- Butterbean, on 10/10/2007, -2/+148i have a completely different view of these guys after seeing their picture....what douches.
- eexlebots, on 10/10/2007, -0/+121I actually laughed out loud when I saw their "internet tough guy" poses.
- rcarroll215, on 10/10/2007, -0/+86i love the picture... they're trying to look like such badasses. tee hee
- sp1keNARF, on 10/10/2007, -0/+82secret company discussions on gmail? that just screams security
- MerryMortician, on 10/10/2007, -0/+78I don't know what's funnier.. the fact that all this happened to media defender.. or their pictures where they look about as 'hip' and 'cool' as fred durst.
- Canaduh, on 10/10/2007, -1/+77I don't really care about the company, since the laws of my country do not allow the RIAA/MPAA to systematically bend students over a barrel.
However, I do think this is a perfect example of what goes around, comes around. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving company. - reeder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+76You're either a mole or a dupe account. Either way, that makes you the *****:
http://www.digg.com/users/martinz/news/dugg - euro22, on 12/17/2008, -0/+74I personally always thought they were douches, even without the picture.
- TotalHalibut, on 10/10/2007, -2/+74'Half of us Digg-ers have good hacking skills)' - Sorry what? A sizeable chunk of Digg's population are angry e-thug teenagers who find empowerment from the mob mentality they find here. They couldn't hack their way out of a paper bag with an ax.
- iDiigg, on 10/10/2007, -2/+59This guys probably did not give a ***** ***** about people downloading from p2p networks before they saw the business opportunity in offering their services to media companies. You are just a bunch of ***** greedy pigs who just want to get your pockets filled.
- spyrochaete, on 10/10/2007, -1/+54In MediaDefender's emails Digg is mentioned a few times - sometimes out of concern that unfavourable stories were featured, other times because stories were completely off base and ridiculously speculative. More than once they recommend creating a bunch of Digg accounts and posting as regular users. "They'll never believe you" was one of the replies to this idea.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+50thanks for proving me right.....
- Maddoktor2, on 10/10/2007, -2/+45This is what happens when you rip people off and then try to entrap them.
Get a clue, Media Defender, **AA, et al. - iDiigg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+43Check out their cheap CRTs. These guys are more broke than me.
- bungoman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+41lol nice try. everyone knows real internet users love piracy.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+39I guess its an eye for an eye, they were using "entrapment" style tactics against regular internet users , so they are just getting a little return on what they dished out.
- ViolentV, on 10/10/2007, -0/+37I suppose the war has begun
- spyrochaete, on 10/10/2007, -1/+37If pirates cared about laws they wouldn't be pirates. Piracy of movies, music, and software is the general public's response to unreasable demands for compensation by the media companies. $1 for an MP3 file is not reasonable. $30 to repurchase our movies in a new format for the third time is not reasonable. $60 for a video game that cannot be returned but doesn't work on my PC because of the copy protection is not reasonable. There is no reasonable alternative to piracy, which delivers the same product with none of the hassles.
MediaDefender is not in an honest line of business. They may do an honest day's work but it's not for honourable reasons. MediaDefender's sole purpose is to make rich people richer and to assist big media in further reducing the terms of fair use. ***** MediaDefender. - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/10/2007, -3/+37don't count on it, douchebag
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+34what a bunch of rats... thought you could make money by snitching on others?
- JFitzpatrick, on 10/10/2007, -3/+34I can't be the only one who looked at that picture and immediately thought of the "Icy Hot Stuntaz" wigger-mockery picture that was going around the 'net a few years ago.
http://www.geocities.com/icyhotstuntazz/ichstun.jpg - Identity4, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28Its true, I cant.....
- roodammy44, on 10/10/2007, -1/+28The laws are already in their favour. It's just noone is following them.
Since when were laws a substitute for a new business model. In most cases the people who created the IP aren't getting much themselves. - spalVl, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27Quote: "...intruders have been monitoring MediaDefender's phone system for nine months."
It's a good bet that any "evidence" gathered by MediaDefender within the last 9 months would also be tainted. Lawyers, Free tip: Bring that evidence into a court of law, brings a little question of legitimacy. - kevin28, on 10/10/2007, -2/+28you're giving douches a bad name.......just think, without douches that certain part of the body wouldn't be as fresh. I think these guys are more like enema's.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25they r showing us how far they can stick their arms up each others asses.
- Fraff5, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25^^^^
MediaDefender. - KUKBAHLAM, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25Aside from fixing the comment system, digg needs a system to filter by length of membership. That way we could filter out a few viral marketers, moles, etc.
If you are in a profession that is leaching off artists,
If you have a sense of entitlement about your industry,
If technology is making your business model obsolete,
Think hard about changing professions... time is short. - scarwars, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25"I will accept any rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."
- The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (1966) - Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -3/+25I don't think it's about bringing the evidence to court. Just exposing MediaDefender for what they are: A bunch of spying, sellout, douches.
- klisejo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22What happens when your small company tries to take on millions of filesharers from all over the world? MediaDefender.
- jftitan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Yes, yes... hacking is wrong.... BUT. what happened to this company was simple. This company has been working on deceptive practices for a long time. These same deceptive practices have been used by the companies that hired MediaDefender. When a company lies, and attempts to subvert the internet community, of course said companies will encounter rebellion.
In this case, no one is sympathetic to MediaDefender because of the bad business practices that hey employed to catch the 'consumer'. Its the catch 22 method. The Media industry has decided to consider its consumers as criminals. The industry forces DRM, to which causes the consumer heartache and cause alot of technical problems TO THE CONSUMER. thus forcing the honest/paying consumer to head into piracy for reasons because of the DRM bs. However since its the industry that is helping force its consumers to NOT^ buy its product but instead download it. That same industry hires goons (MediaDefender) to subvert the internet, by either framing or tampering with legitimate free business.
Same goes for this baggy pants *****. The origin of baggy pants may have come from prison, but the fashion has made it out to the mainstream communities. By creating a law that punishes people wearing baggy pants when it was the 'system' that credited the fad, that just means, its a catch 22. You created the issue, and to compound the issue you create more punishment for what you have created. (replace 'you' with whatever you like'). - tomokatsu, on 10/10/2007, -3/+24I have nothing against people who try to make money. It is just the matter of entrapment that I disagree with.
- JoshuaGross, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20Just think, they're young enough to be one of us... but they sold out to the man... tisk, tisk.
- ronaldinho, on 10/10/2007, -12/+32I don't know. What if hackers hacked YOUR computer and leaked all your private materials out? I mean, hacking is still wrong (though probably at least half of us Digg-ers have good hacking skills), and the only reason I'm unsympathetic is because of who the victim is
- fjf314, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20Maybe they are trying to improve their security through the "intimidation factor" that the picture undoubtedly provides.
- zombiedepot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19They're too busy shopping for hair spray in order to pose for their cool PR photos.
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18oh, but i have been. he's so eloquent! the turns-of-phrase! the metaphor! the hyperbole! a true master of the literal and figurative.
btw, i dugg down every comment he made. perhaps we could make it a little game? how low can we get his comments to go. oh, and btw, i made sure to hit the "report it" button too. i find it offensive when i'm called a thief. piracy is not theft, it's copyright infringement. - mraustin1337, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19I like how in their picture they are trying to look like such badasses instead of crying into their laps because they have been screwed.
Also I bet these guys love downloading movies but they started this company so they would never be suspect. - starsky51, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18I'd call it the "We would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddlin' kids!" pose
- ilgaz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19You have been reported to Digg for suspicious activity.
- zengonzo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17I can't figure out what the pose is supposed to be .. Are their hands invisibly chained together, are they simulating a punch to the camera, or mutually elbowing the television. What the hell?
- Floris, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17EFNet : #mediadefender (pwned)
- mistafreeze, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17DRKrevorkian
you may be fed up with the digg community, but the digg community is fed up with big media.
RIAA/MPAA should not be going after customers, paying or thieving. Their #1 defense against piracy is raise prices, make content incompatible with certain older products (or os's) and sue end users. Is it any wonder noone gives 2 ***** about anything bad happening to those companies.
Yes, record labels are needed, without them the great artists of the world would be forced to work 9 to 5 jobs like everyone else. (and thus not produce the amazing music that enhances everyones lives)
Record labels need to stop bugging the ***** out.
It is complete and total ***** to go after websites that post lyrics, or guitar tabs. Home videos of kids singing their favorite songs, or 10 year old jimmy who turned on the news and heard he could download music for free off this bit torrent thing.
The more you combat this, the worse it is. Most people would not even know how the hell to download a movie or cd. Except now, when you go to the theater you get these big ads saying do not download pirated movies. The average person will see this as wow, I can download movies for free! When you go to a music shop, there are tons of posters saying do not pirate. I mean all you are doing is filling everyones head with the idea of free content.
Here is a radical idea. Give away low quality versions of the cds. Make it where you cannot burn it, or even if you can, who gives a *****, it's low quality. It would help promote the idea that downloads are of lesser quality and nothing really wrong with it.
Then (heres the shocker) offer high quality products (such as uncompressed audio) and sell that, as cd's that are worth 2 ***** will be bought anyway.
Next time a fan posts a video on you tube using a favorite artist, try and ask the user to post the name and cd of the song, not get the damn video taken off the net. They are promoting your bands.
HELL YOU SHOULD ENCOURAGE THIS.
Ive watched tv, movies, and youtube vidz and thought, damn thats a cool ass song, and went to amazon and bought the CD. Its not rocket science people.
Or you could continue saying what you do now, ***** YOU, PAY ME. and wonder why no-one gives a *****. - MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Well...maybe with an ax...
- BigManOnCampus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16You're missing what spalVI is trying to say methinks. He's saying that any evidence that MediaDefender had captured on pirates in the last 9 months is suspect since their systems were compromised. Compromised systems = potentially altered data, which means potential trouble bringing cases to court.
- OsiVert, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Because this is the same company that made a comment about how they need to add better keywords to their meta data tags on their fake website. They thought that by doing this, google would rank their page higher. Little did they know that google doesn't use meta tag data for page rank. If they just did a little research they would have known this.
- dougmc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Personally, I'd like to see what their emails look like _now_, as they react to all their dirty laundry being aired.
Well, I'd rather read another summary ... I have little desire to read 700 MB of my own mail, let alone anybody else's, no matter how juicy it might be (but probably isn't.) -
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