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- bentman78, on 09/18/2008, -3/+135buried...here is the real story as I understand it. Not my text but what I've read:
" I missed the original incident, but monitored the discussion and repostings afterward to see what I could learn about what had happened and who was responsible.
There are several misconceptions and errors in most accounts of this story, including your post. Most significantly, the perpetrator(s) were not members of an infamous group of hackers. I don’t blame you for misunderstanding this, because in all the media coverage regarding the war with Scientology the media has completely failed to explain what Anonymous is.
Anonymous is not exactly a group. It is people using the umbrella of a web discussion board for cover to be as offensive, funny, strange, or whatever as they want.
Here’s the short version: there is a site called 4chan.org. It is an image posting site based on a popular Japanese site. The site contains multiple boards, each of which is dedicated to a particular subject. The most notorious of these boards is called /b/. /b/ is the board dedicated to random images. /b/tards, as its denizens are called, are interested only in their own amusement. Their sense of humor runs the gamut from sick to cruel to merely strange. Lolcats, as made famous by http://www.icanhascheezburger.com, originated on /b/. A lot of memes start there. There is a lot of racist humor — pictures of excited and happy black people in proximity to fried chicken abound. There is a lot of pornography. Sometimes it’s child pornography, although posting that is moderator grounds for banning — no, it’s not a pedophile ring; /b/tards post it because they think doing so is funny.
4chan does not log participants. Most people don’t use or have usernames, and post instead as “Anonymous.” And every so often, a number of /b/’s anonymous denizens decide to make somebody’s life hell. Sometimes it’s a random person who offends /b/’s sense of propriety. Sometimes it’s a forum dedicated to a serious topic. Sometimes it’s Scientology. And Tuesday, it was Sarah Palin. Or it would have been.
Sarah Palin’s email account was hacked by one person. Not a group.
This person read her emails, then posted the username and password on /b/. This happened at about 4 in the morning on Tuesday. The idea was that the sea of Anonymous /b/tards would download the emails, upload porn, and cause all manner of mischief. Anonymous is not a group of hackers. Anonymous is more like gremlins. They are hyperactive adolescents in search of amusement and joy, which they often get by upsetting people and making messes. That’s what was happening here. Anonymous did not hack the account. A hacker tried to throw Sarah Palin to Anonymous. Not all of Anonymous was having it. One person threw a crowbar in the works. Other /b/tards were displeased to miss a chance at the lulz. The moderators stepped in. The thread was deleted.
Later, other individuals created threads reposting screencaps of emails and the inbox, and put together a collection of these files. All mentions of these were purged by the moderators. So then some bright /b/tards decided to email what little stuff they had to the media.
That’s pretty much it.
This afternoon, in a thread that was later deleted, an individual claiming to be the original poster gave his account of what happened. I’ve attached screencaps. Here’s the text. The original poster used the name “rubico.” The linked email address for the poster was rubico10@yahoo.com.
This is what rubico said:
rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:57:22 No.85782652
Hello, /b/ as many of you might already know, last night sarah palin’s yahoo was “hacked” and caps were posted on /b/, i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story.
In the past couple days news had come to light about palin using a yahoo mail account, it was in news stories and such, a thread was started full of newfags trying to do something that would not get this off the ground, for the next 2 hours the acct was locked from password recovery presumably from all this ***** spamming.
after the password recovery was reenabled, it took seriously 45 mins on wikipedia and google to find the info, Birthday? 15 seconds on wikipedia, zip code? well she had always been from wasilla, and it only has 2 zip codes (thanks online postal service!)
the second was somewhat harder, the question was “where did you meet your spouse?” did some research, and apparently she had eloped with mister palin after college, if youll look on some of the ***** that I took and other fellow anon have so graciously put on photobucket you will see the google search for “palin eloped” or some such in one of the tabs.
I found out later though more research that they met at high school, so I did variations of that, high, high school, eventually hit on “Wasilla high” I promptly changed the password to popcorn and took a cold shower…
>> rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:58:04 No.85782727
this is all verifiable if some anal /b/tard wants to think Im a troll, and there isn’t any hard proof to the contrary, but anyone who had followed the thread from the beginning to the 404 will know I probably am not, the picture I posted this topic with is the same one as the original thread.
I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family
I then started a topic on /b/, peeps asked for pics or gtfo and I obliged, then it started to get big
Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this ***** ever got to the FBI I was *****, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to ***** all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state
Then the white knight ***** came along, and did it in for everyone, I trusted /b/ with that email password, I had gotten done what I could do well, then passed the torch , all to be let down by the douchebaggery, good job /b/, this is why we cant have nice things
The “white knight *****” was the /b/tard who thought that going through Sarah Palin’s email wasn’t cool. He logged in, changed the password, and sent an email to a friend of Palin’s warning her and letting her know the new password. Unfortunately, he then posted a screenshot of this email to let the other /b/tards know their fun was over. He failed to blank the password, and they all tried to log in and change the password — which tripped the automated Yahoo! freeze. Since then, the account has been deleted. “*****” refers to rapidshare.com — i.e., rubico wanted to download the emails, put them into one file, and put that file up on rapidshare for /b/tards and the world at large to download. But he panicked, or didn’t know how to download the emails, and so pawned that task off on Anonymous, which he didn’t realize wasn’t monolithic and in his favor.
As Paul Harvey would say, “And now you know…. the rest of the story.” " - AmyVernon, on 09/17/2008, -16/+146What governor uses a Yahoo e-mail account?
- Zlorp, on 09/18/2008, -2/+63whoever hacked her account did a ***** job of discovering anything interesting
- cheezintern, on 09/17/2008, -23/+71Well it's her own fault:
A. Apparently must have had a weak password which would allow someone to gain access.
B. She uses her yahoo for public business and then refuses to turn over emails related to an investigation. - TinternAbbot, on 09/18/2008, -15/+61If someone had hacked Obama's account, diggers would be singing a different tune.
- Derrekito, on 09/18/2008, -12/+58A governor who wants conversations off the record.
- cuoops, on 09/18/2008, -7/+53I check Digg a few times a day. I'm getting tired of seeing the same stories on the front page.
- NaziHatinChimp, on 09/18/2008, -6/+45They should've stayed quiet and moniteted it until something good came up.
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -12/+50Anonymous delivers, yet again.
- pstone40, on 09/18/2008, -7/+43God must love stupid people; He made so many.
- GetItBuilt, on 09/17/2008, -21/+57It was just a matter of time. What did they find, a forwarded email about a moose and a penguin joke.
I'm surprised she has an email account really. Probably just for eBay.
Nuff Said. - autechre78, on 09/18/2008, -5/+32What: The Justice Department asks a judge to approve Patriot Act e-mail monitoring without any evidence of criminal behavior.
When: Decided Feb. 2, 2006 by U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan in Washington, D.C.
Outcome: E-mail surveillance approved.
What happened: As part of a grand jury investigation that's still secret, the Justice Department asked a federal magistrate judge to approve monitoring of an unnamed person's e-mail correspondents.
The request had a twist: Instead of asking to eavesdrop on the contents of the e-mail messages, which would require some evidence of wrongdoing, prosecutors instead requested the identities of the correspondents. Also included in the request was header information like date and time and Internet address--but not subject lines.
The federal magistrate judge balked and asked the Justice Department to submit an additional brief to demonstrate that such a request would be legal.
Instead, prosecutors asked Judge Hogan to step in. He reviewed the portion of federal law dealing with "pen register" and "trap and trace" devices--terms originating in the world of telephone wiretapping--and concluded it "unambiguously" authorizes the e-mail surveillance request.
Though the language may be clumsy, Hogan said, the Patriot Act's amendments authorize that type of easily obtainable surveillance of e-mail. All that's required, he said, is that prosecutors claim the surveillance could conceivably be "relevant" to an investigation. - onehitwonder, on 09/17/2008, -4/+31Hacking the election before the Diebold voting machines get away with it again.
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -0/+25http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Image:Sarah_palin_inbox_ ...
I'm surprised the "hacker" didn't blur his proxy address. Log tracking FTL. - JMaj, on 09/18/2008, -1/+25http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-09-17-01.jpg
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-09-17-03.jpg
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-09-17-04.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Palin_s_Email_Ac ... - jakem1, on 09/18/2008, -3/+24To hack McCain's mail you'd need to intercept the Pony Express.
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -0/+21Its not being blocked, pinheads. It's being hit by a billion people from digg and slashdot. The US does not block wikileaks currently.
- CarStan, on 09/18/2008, -3/+22no. ebaums ***** up. They could have extracted much more win out of this. Download or sreencap all the mails and put them on torrent. Using the account to write fake mails, maybe to find evidence for Troopergate.
And most of all: dont post the goddamn pw on e/b/aumsworld.com, so that some idiots screw it up and get the account blocked. The initial hacker could at least have been so wise to change the 'forgot your password' question.
As it is now we got absolutely nothing postive out of it. But after Bill O'Reillys rant and the alertion of the Secret Service we'll definately lose wikileaks and maybe even ebau..,god damnit, you all know i mean 4can - Otnehs, on 09/18/2008, -2/+21Apparently the person who stepped up as the OP claimed he just used public info to reset her password and gain access (I don't know if that's what it says in the article since I cannot go there). From another site I read it was just her date of birth, zip code, and where she met her spouse (which was the hard part apparently).
Popcorn anyone? - inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+19can't you see this story already has 4000+ diggs?
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -5/+20ebaums did it. ebaums always does it. goddamnit.
- TehDoctor, on 09/18/2008, -1/+161-2-3-4-5? That's the combination an idiot would have on his luggage!
- KSUdesigner, on 09/18/2008, -0/+14Even if you only checked it a few times a week, you'd still see the same stories on the front page.
- CarStan, on 09/18/2008, -1/+15UPDATE: The guy is toast, he used only one proxy and was dumb enough to post screenshots containing the URL of the proxy-provider, with wich they can easily track him down.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/18/palin_emai ...
I hope at least the media makes a deal out of the fact the a person who wants to become sucessor to the president isnt even smart enough to realize how the internet works and that it might not be a good idea to use information that is available to anybody as your pw failsafe.
Even if this happened to Obama i would question his intellect and ability to lead and protect the most powerful country in the world if he isnt even able to properly protect his mail account. If it had been an elaborate attack that caused the hack i would think otherwise, but my grandma is smarter than Palin in this regard. - bentman78, on 09/18/2008, -2/+16Don't hold your breath Bowden, that Senator isn't Obama, it's someone else.
oxdeltaxo- so I don't want to get hacked, I shouldn't use a gmail account. That reasoning sounds pretty stupid. The guy himself found little to no official stiff in the account, so don't get your hopes up of a conspiracy of her trying to circumvent government retention laws.
Speaking from experience having worked for couple government agencies as either a contractor or an employee at one time or another (nothing like the NSA or anything like that), it's common practice for them to tell you to use your government account FOUO and if you have personal matters than use another account. - bratterscain, on 09/18/2008, -11/+24No, it is not her fault someone couldn't control their urges to tamper with her email address. It doesn't matter if her email password was weak and it doesn't matter if a woman is weak, it doesn't give you the legality to tamper with them just because they don't or didn't have the means to keep you from doing it.
Well you say I'm only making her stronger because she now knows better to have a weak email password. For that matter then, if I found a weakness in your mom, it gives me the justifiable option to take advantage of that weak spot and it will just make her stronger, right? Wrong. That's only considered a weakness because some ***** decided to take advantage of it. The law gives us the option to have some area for which we can be less on the defense because not everyone has the option or resources to defend themselves physically, digitally, etc. Some people have other jobs or areas of interest and may not be as familiar with more technological aspects of computing so may lack the resources to fully know what goes on. You have to take it upon yourself to refrain from taking advantage of that weakness or else it makes you an ***** and a lawbreaker. If it's a security flaw, you take it up with Yahoo and perhaps email her, you don't break into her email. Of course, I used to be in the hacking scene but I'm not sure what will make some of you young people understand that a person's information is their own and analogous to their physical property other than just growing up. - strictnein, on 09/18/2008, -0/+13Because after they hacked the email account they found lots of incriminating evidence! Oh wait... no they didn't.
- zelig, on 09/18/2008, -2/+14Interesting how the same people that denounce wiretapping, etc. as a violation of personal privacy think it's fine if that person happens to be Gov. Palin.
- hellsing47, on 09/18/2008, -5/+17Stop all this "anon delivers' *****.
- publiclurker, on 09/17/2008, -3/+14password: rapture!!!
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -4/+15He "can't" use a computer due to his P.O.W injuries.
- Enron, on 09/18/2008, -3/+14Sarcasm e-meter failed.
- inactive, on 09/17/2008, -8/+19gmail
- eliot2000, on 09/18/2008, -9/+19Everyone should respect the politicians' right to privacy. They'd do the same for you.
- CarStan, on 09/18/2008, -1/+11it is real, because the McCain-campaign was so stupid to confirm it. No one really believed it, until they complained about it.. There you see the stupidity of the campaign, they cry about a hacked e-mail account she wasnt even allowed to have under the Alskan Freedom of information act, because she used it also for govt. issues
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -3/+12*crosses fingers for nudies*
- grovest4life, on 09/18/2008, -4/+13Anyone can create a yahoo account and pretend their Sarah Palin then claim that they hacked the account and post it on wikileaks. I am just as opposed the bridge to nowhere ticket as everyone else but there is now way to prove that this is real. This coming from a sane Obama supporter.
- lonesomewolf, on 09/18/2008, -2/+10What makes it "personal" is not the email address name but the fact it is an account on private email servers and not govt. official servers. The name is irrelevant. There are laws for backing up and making available all government communications from state elected officials for specific inquires. As elected officials, they are bound by laws you and I are not bound by.
- BoneStamp, on 09/18/2008, -1/+9I don't think the US blocks anything do they?
- JustinPM, on 09/18/2008, -4/+12Kriegg, dude, it's called gov.palin@yahoo.com. Doesn't sound too personal to me.
- Spiderbrigade, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7Dugg for "If I found a weakness in your mom"
- JasonCox, on 09/18/2008, -6/+13I have $20 bucks riding on a bet that her password was "Password".
- bradleyland, on 09/18/2008, -2/+9password: lipstick
- jakem1, on 09/18/2008, -0/+7Actually, although this is all very humorous, politician's should be entitled to privacy beyond their work. In a perfect world they would hopefully return the favour.
- bentman78, on 09/18/2008, -1/+8BXRWXR
His posts are on 4chan and there's proof all over the internet he's been discovered and who is associated with. Don't be a lazy *****, do some searching. - BuboTitan, on 09/18/2008, -9/+15Like when women are raped, that's their fault too?
Get real. If it were Biden or Obama's email that was hacked, all of Digg would be outraged. - AirPirate, on 09/18/2008, -10/+16Tintern, you are soooo right! The Diggers would be screaming, swearing, screaming and then threatening the perps. Once again, we see the left wing wackos at their best. Their reaction will bring more votes to McCain.
- bentman78, on 09/18/2008, -0/+6no...
- Magycian, on 09/18/2008, -1/+7How soon they forget that "Passport Security Breach on McCain, Clinton & Obama " was the headline.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=4 ... - Gerbil_Juice, on 09/18/2008, -3/+9I'm not a Palin supporter, but what happened to politicians being human beings and human beings having the right to privacy?
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