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- blckpnthr, on 03/17/2010, -5/+566He logged into the company website using a colleague's credentials. What a Hax0r.
/s - Sewermutt, on 03/17/2010, -2/+316A real hacker would've been smart enough to use a proxy server.
- Pinkertinkle, on 03/17/2010, -0/+265so you're saying they put DRM on those cars
- pxmm, on 03/17/2010, -5/+203"The dealer can... trigger the horn to begin honking as a reminder that a payment is due"
Isn't non-imminent disaster honking illegal? - freeridstylee, on 03/17/2010, -3/+167How common are these black boxes? Do dealers have to disclose that they're installed when you buy a car? I'd be pissed as hell if I bought a car w/one.
- doctechnical, on 03/17/2010, -2/+128Garsh, who could have ever guessed that a remote immobilization system could ever be used for evil? [facepalm]
Omar, Omar, Omar - you shouldn't have shot your wad all at once! If you'd just disabled one or two cars a week you could have had your former employers chasing their tails for *months*! Well, you were too damned stupid to use a proxy, so I guess patience is out of the question.
Remember folks, revenge is a dish best served cold. - aychseven, on 03/17/2010, -3/+120i'm really sick of people calling this type of idiot a "hacker." the only way we can stop it is to let these "journalists" know they're ***** doing it wrong. email the author of the article here: kpoulsen@wired.com
- NodOfficer, on 03/18/2010, -1/+104YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR
- badwithcomputer, on 03/17/2010, -3/+92hack the planet!
- spritom, on 03/17/2010, -1/+84At least he logged on using somebody else's wifi connection while connecting through a proxy and wearing a Michael Jackson disguise.
/s - sjbdallas, on 03/17/2010, -3/+75Geez, that bar to being considered a hacker has gotten pretty low. By that standard my kid is a hacker every time I let him use my login to pizzahut.com.
- earthtones, on 03/17/2010, -12/+76Need to put him to work disabling only hyperaccelerating Toyotas.
Very yin/yang, doncha think? - xtc46, on 03/17/2010, -0/+57its social engineering...not social hacking.
- Swellin, on 03/17/2010, -0/+54Someone contact RELOADED, and get a crack ASAP.
- LiquidIse, on 03/17/2010, -2/+54A real hacker would never consider only using one I'd think. But your point stands.
- reeds1999, on 03/17/2010, -2/+54How to locate and disable these 'black boxes' should be widely publicized.
- coreyb, on 03/17/2010, -3/+53I am not sure what is more disturbing, the fact that the cars were hacked or that someone has the ability to control something as vital as a car via the Internet...
- NeddieSeagoon, on 03/17/2010, -0/+49Driving Rights Management
- kd1s, on 03/17/2010, -1/+44Or, find an open WiFi network and do your nefarious deed from there.
- NeonDistraction, on 03/18/2010, -1/+39I most certainly would, were it possible.
- GoldYoshi, on 03/18/2010, -1/+389001 proxies*
- lorddazzer, on 03/18/2010, -0/+36A real hacker would have built a GUI app in Visual Basic.
- fucknuggets, on 03/17/2010, -0/+34you would have to use at least 7 proxys.
- heresy_fnord, on 03/17/2010, -2/+35I like how anyone that uses a computer for anything bad is automatically a hacker, regardless of how they committed the the act. Logging in to a website using credentials you got from an existing employee does not make you a hacker.
- biofriendlyblog, on 03/17/2010, -9/+39That would have sucked to have that happen!
- HonoredMule, on 03/18/2010, -1/+30We've had a term for this behavior for centuries. In our current language, that term is "vandal." If you want to make a big deal about technology being involved, call it "computer vandalism" or "electronic vandalism."
There was no more 'cracking' involved than there was 'hacking.' - LiveintheNow, on 03/17/2010, -0/+28TOR network works great for anonymity.
- abadjay, on 03/17/2010, -0/+26http://www.sekurusontime.com/PRODUCTS/tabid/54/Def ...
here is one of the companies that make the "black box". It seems that dealerships will install them in people's cars who don't have a fantastic history of paying their bills. - Spandia, on 03/17/2010, -3/+29None of this stuff works the way you think it does.
- ottawaj, on 03/17/2010, -4/+30You know what? I'm with the kid on this one. ***** you dealer.
- inactive, on 03/18/2010, -0/+23A real hacker would whisper his commands into the cables.
- kd1s, on 03/17/2010, -0/+22Somewhere in the sales contract they more than likely mention it. Pretty easy to defeat too. Just find the box, open it up and make the box go deaf. It's REALLY easy. One little inductor and poof, it can't hear anymore.
- tacojohn48, on 03/18/2010, -1/+23I would suggest 9000 proxies.
- Flashypoo, on 03/17/2010, -1/+22You want the police to have access to that type of power?
- FreckleEars, on 03/18/2010, -4/+24FTA:
"The dealership used a system called Webtech Plus as an alternative to repossessing vehicles that haven’t been paid for."
I would assume that they only go on vehicles they sell of people with low credit.
"Proponents say the systems let financers extend credit to consumers who might otherwise be ineligible for an auto loan."
Why not just REFUSE to let people buy cars who do NOT HAVE MONEY! Problem solved. Giving loans to people who cannot pay for them is half of the reason why your country is in a recession and why most people have massive debt. - alpox, on 03/18/2010, -0/+20Believe it or not, a lot of people who have bad credit ratings got there due to circumstances beyond their control (lost job, health issue). Being able to get a car to reliably get to work and help build back their credit is a good thing. Credit rating does not equal ability to pay.
- Pinkertinkle, on 03/17/2010, -3/+22agreed, at least he brought attention to that secret tracking and sabotage system.
- aychseven, on 03/18/2010, -0/+18i emailed him and said a better title would center around "disgruntled worker" but he snapped back about the guy being fired. i guess "disgruntled former employee" is too long?
you'd think as a "journalist" or "editor" for wired magazine that the guy would want to have some sort of integrity and call it like it is rather than intentionally spreading fear by using a loaded word. this kind of nonsense ranks right up there with calling obama a communist. - Solkre, on 03/18/2010, -0/+18There's a lot of places in the US where you need a car to function. Some people do actually better themselves, but your past can haunt you... and beep at you if you forget a payment.
- newman8r, on 03/17/2010, -2/+19probably not if the car isn't running (and this system can't be activated if they are running anyway)
lots of annoying security systems use the car's horn... - Zyzblargh, on 03/17/2010, -3/+19In this case, replace the term "hacker" with "*****." Ooooh..logging into a system with another employee's credentials..that takes real L337 haxxor skillz!
- carterx, on 03/17/2010, -1/+17Now try that with On-Star!
Your driving down the road then your car suddenly starts telling you Directions, Turn-by-Turn Navigation, phone starts dialing, notifying On-Star that your in an accident etc. That would be a damn mess if someone hacked into that system! - ducttape36, on 03/17/2010, -3/+19it wasnt social anything. he just used the password given to him at his job.
- theonlywizdum, on 03/17/2010, -1/+16of course, why didn't we think to start the truck before driving it. It all makes sense now.
- marciot, on 03/18/2010, -2/+16And once you finish paying for the car, do they come over to your home and remove said boxes? Or do they just leave them there so they can disable your car five years down the road, forcing you to come back to the dealer to have your engine checked?
Dirty bastards. - sndream, on 03/17/2010, -1/+14“Omar was pretty good with computers,” says Garcia.
I think someone who's good with computers will know what's a proxy server. - SocialStacy, on 03/17/2010, -2/+15They should install these black boxes on people's cars who do not know how to drive. Get all the idiots off the road, this would be an awesome solution.
- ddttox, on 03/17/2010, -5/+18What the hell? Since when do dealers install black boxes in cars that they sell to remotely disable them? If I find one on my car I'm taking it out and selling it on ebay.
- JamesBondQ, on 03/18/2010, -1/+14Because obviously these black boxes would never cause anything unwanted to happen, so long as you pay for your car.
Oh wait, that's EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS ARTICLE. - farfrumcrashen, on 03/18/2010, -0/+12What's funny is Kevin Poulsen was actually a hacker... so you'd figure he'd know the difference! I recognized the name from a book that I read years ago, "The Watchman: The Twisted Life and Crimes of Serial Hacker Kevin Poulsen". Wikipedia also shows him as the senior editor at Wired News.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Poulsen -
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