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- ATH025, on 10/12/2007, -13/+111Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -22/+94How you can you guys honestly support him? He stole credit card numbers from innocent people with the firm intent on using them. Sure, maybe some of them were scumbag protesters, but they're people nevertheless. People that work just as hard for their money as the next guy.
He deserves it. - puggy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+57People read the headlines and digg it (as a bookmark), then read the story later.
- aurrea, on 10/12/2007, -6/+58I'm pretty sure the state prisons are the "pound me in the ass" prisons. Federal prisons are cake walks. You get to hangout with ex-CEO's all day...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+55He *said* he was going to donate to charity. Do you expect him to say "yeah, I planned on buying a bunch of stuff on ebay with them". It's really common for people convicted of crimes trying to justify what they did to make themselves look not so bad to the media.
- Rice, on 10/12/2007, -5/+47Oh my god... I once spent about five minutes at his site about three years ago.
I don't know how to react to this. Dugg? - grevvvvvv, on 10/12/2007, -2/+41"He was accused of accessing ProtestWarrior.com's database with a reverse PHP shell, and getting a list of credit card numbers that totalled into the thousands. The prosecutors tried to get Jeremy nailed for 2.5 million in damages, but there was no actual damage done. It was said that Jeremy planned "to make donations to humanitarian and charity groups opposed by the Protest Warrior Web site."
- sphinx13, on 10/12/2007, -11/+42I used to be an active member on HTS, and It was a really cool community.
Also, the writer of the article wrote that he would maintain the site indefinitely.
Hammond will be missed. Good luck. - LaueOfficer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28While you are correct with some of the things you said, please RTA or if you can't then read the comments to find out why he was sentenced to prison.
- AdamTReineke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25The full text was already posted.
- JPDota, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Read what he did, not just the headlines. People like you make the world a worse place.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Since when did it become just A-OK to steal from people just because they believe something you do not? How ignorant is that?
- DruminPatrick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21You may want to read the article, where it says what he did.
- cyberscape2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Have fun with that.
- Morsetlis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18What the ***** is up w/ diggers and their obsession with prison assrape.
- NerveBand, on 10/12/2007, -24/+40Even though he had good intentions (the Hack This Site Owner), he still is a ***** for doing bs like that.
***** you you cracker.
Oh and for those of you who can't read the article. here you go.
"Jeremy Hammond, Xec96, Whooka, and whatever other nick you may have known him as... He was convicted in September, and was sentenced to 24 months in federal prison, followed by 3 years of no contact with HackThisSite.org, similar sites, or anarchy related groups in the Chicago area.
He was accused of accessing ProtestWarrior.com's database with a reverse PHP shell, and getting a list of credit card numbers that totalled into the thousands. The prosecutors tried to get Jeremy nailed for 2.5 million in damages, but there was no actual damage done. It was said that Jeremy planned "to make donations to humanitarian and charity groups opposed by the Protest Warrior Web site."
I will neither confirm nor deny what actually happened, but I will say that he will be missed, and definitely welcome back at any time. I plan to personally keep the site up indefinitely, just for him.
He wants to continue working on the zine that we release every several months, including the one that is planned to be released later this month. He also wants to continue writing for it while doing time. I'll post another news post when we have the specific details of who can send what, and where, and..
On a side note, I had originally posted this new topic with a link to the Chicago Tribune article explaining everything, yet when I went to check it, they had moved or blocked it. Luckily, I had another page with it open, so I saved a copy of it to http://www.hackthissite.org/chicagotribunecapture.txt " - tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -12/+28Thanks for the explanation. I just checked out that site Protest Warrior and they seem like a bunch of douche bags.
- rynoon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I used to be a developer for HTS a few years ago and unless they have started from scratch and completely re-programmed their entire site I doubt it is that secure. It was basically a very large collection of uncommented spaghetti code created by amateur, high-school level programmers. It has been defaced on multiple occasions and there are most likely some security holes still lurking in the code.
The site's good for learning about SQL injection and other little tricks for exploiting weak code, but it's not really a huge breeding ground for hackers. It's good for learning the common methods a cracker might use to exploit your website, but not much else.
I've talked to Jeremy before and lets just say that his political and moral beliefs are a little... unorthodox. This doesn't surprise me in the least. - drakethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17After all breaking into a server you don't own and downloading a list of credit card numbers is illegal. In HTS pretend land it may not be but in reality regardless of how you use them or if you used them, it doesn't justify this action and the creator deserves to be in jail. After all I was one of the guys who submitted the evidence against him because what he did is illegal.
Don't get me wrong HTS is a great community and I'm still a part of it and will be while it continues to exist, but his actions were individualistic and actually ended up damaging the community and not helping it. Some members of HTS will come to his defense but they are doing it because they think its their job because he was the HTS founder. They fail to realize that he acted independently and against better judgment. - BlackCow, on 10/12/2007, -33/+48I wouldn't call him a slime ball. He shouldn't have been going after peoples credit cards but at least he was doing it to donate to charity. He is a criminal but I have a little more respect for him then other criminals.
Should I start making "Free Jeremy" bumper stickers? - bballguy2757, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19If you know you're ignorant, please don't show the rest of us.
- kevin8441, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15the website cant be hacked but we can digg it into the ground
- sphinx13, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Actually if you expose a vulnerability on HTS then they commend you or something. It's happened a couple of times. An ***** could hack it, but that would be really stupid, because they would piss off a bunch of other hackers.
- McGrude, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"
- InsaneMachine, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17And the chicago Tribune Text as that is slow too.
By Matt O'Connor
Tribune staff reporter
Published December 8, 2006
A Chicago man was sentenced to 2 years in prison Thursday for
illegally accessing the Web site of a conservative political
activist group and downloading the credit-card numbers of
thousands of its members.
Jeremy Hammond plotted to use the credit cards to make donations
to humanitarian and charity groups opposed by the Protest Warrior
Web site into which he hacked, but he changed his mind, according
to court records.
According to his lawyer, Hammond has extreme left-wing political
views. He admitted to the FBI that he was a member of hackthissite.org,
which identifies itself as "an online movement of hackers, activists
and anarchists," the court records show.
After Hammond's father had noted his son was 19 at the time and
used poor judgment, U.S. District Judge James B. Zagel picked up
on the point, but used more blunt terms.
"You were an idiot when you did it," the judge said. "At the
perspective of my age, all 19-year-olds are idiots."
Prosecutors had sought up to the maximum 5-year prison term and
said they wanted Hammond, now 21, immediately jailed for violating
bail by failing two recent drug tests and being arrested on disorderly
conduct charges.
But Zagel said that was too harsh a sentence in this case and
allowed Hammond to surrender to prison on Jan. 3.
Hammond was "more interested in countering speech he found wrong
rather than picking the pockets" of political rivals, the judge said.
In addition to imposing the 2-year prison term, Zagel ordered Hammond
to pay about $5,250 in fines and restitution and barred him from
participating with hackthissite.org or similar Internet groups for
three years after his release from prison.
"The threat of what you did is damaging to democratic discourse,
your side's as well," Zagel told Hammond.
Hammond's father, Jack, contended his son's hacking was an immature
act of revenge for a similar attack on hackthissite.org's Web site.
Though he faulted his son's judgment, the elder Hammond said his
son's "basic inner moral code is good."
But Assistant U.S. Atty. Brandon Fox said this wasn't the first time
Hammond had illegally hacked. He wrote pro-drug messages on the
anti-drug DARE Web site, hacked into a former employer's computer
system and was expelled from college for hacking, Fox said.
Fox urged a stiff prison term to punish Hammond for his disrespect for
both the law and the opposing political opinions of others.
In court papers, Hammond's lawyer, Matthew McQuaid, had compared
his client's computer skills to "a comic book character's `superpower.'"
In court Thursday, McQuaid contended Hammond was too emotionally
immature to "harness" his political opinions.
According to the court records, Hammond gained access to the credit-card
information of about 5,000 people who had bought items or donated online
on Protest Warrior's Web site.
An acquaintance of Hammond's who tipped off authorities to Hammond's
involvement was upset because Hammond allegedly had let an associate take
the fall for a previous hacking, the records show.
In comments to the judge, Hammond, who pleaded guilty in September, said
his motivation wasn't thievery but rather "political rivalry." - hydrosan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15jeremy was a douchebag, ask the chicago2600 guys, we were almost thrown out from our location at Neighorhood Boys and Girls Club because he decided to spray paint neighorboring buildings during a meeting. he would hack servers of various members, and was just childish in his actions.
he even used his company servers for hack related purposes (he was fired)
he should have gotten 5 years in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison, not 2 - cyberscape2, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18He engaged in, what the federal government likes to call, "anarchic activities" by running a website that advocated "criminal skills training", and allegedly stole credit car numbers.
Where he planned to send that money is completely irrelevant. Stealing a wad of cash from a bank and donating it to the Salvation Army does not mean that I DIDN'T ***** STEAL ANYTHING.
The legal ground here really isn't that complicated. - sphinx13, on 10/12/2007, -10/+21@Adam first of all it says in the Chicago Tribune article that he had changed his mind, and also he's not the kind of guy that would steal the credit cards for his own gain. Look at who he hacked. An extreme rightist website.
Look at this: http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=42013&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=hacker&start=0
He apparently hacked this site as well. Besides, if he just wanted money there would have been millions of sites that were probably easier to hack, and more profitable. - nights0223, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Coral cache:
http://www.hackthissite.org.nyud.net:8090/news/view/354 - forgiste, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Man, I loved that site back in the day. Oh well, if mitnick can avoid getting assraped in prison, I'm sure this guy can too. We'll see ya in 24 months man.
- FreeJeremy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Okay, let's clear a couple things up:
1: The guy did this ***** over TWO YEARS AGO. It's not like they came after him, grabbed him, tossed him in the klink, and then threw away the key.
2: Skilling is appealing his case. Jeremy did NOT. He plea-bargained (and I repeat PLEA-BARGAINED!). Otherwise he was facing 5 years (without early release), a FAR bigger fine, and complete removal of computer privileges for anything more sophisticated than a $10 calculator.
3: Jeremy has, all along, admitted that he'd broken into the PW site. That was NEVER up for debate here. His whole beef was "You caught me before I could use them, so no harm, no foul". Which is about as infantile as you can get. And the "use conservatives money to help liberal causes" wasn't even original. Hell, it was old hat before it even made it into "Sneakers".
4: Yeah, on a personal level, when he isn't trying to take something from you, Jeremy can be a nice, likeable guy. And yes, he can be extremely adept with his various hacking skills. However, if you so much as challenge his self-appointed authority, you become fair game for him. And for someone who wants to be an educator, Jeremy has a distressing lack of understanding about free information. Do some searches back through the Full Disclosure lists to see him get laughed off the list for telling the Full Disclosure guys they need to keep their "leet hax" secret and magical so that they can always impress newbs.
5: Jeremy's main problem is his lack of self control. He still hasn't grasped the concept that just because you CAN do something, does not give you the right to actually DO that thing. And, like a child, he tries to hurt and silence that which disturbs his notion of how things ought to be. And then, when in trouble, Jeremy will always do what's best for Jeremy.
Ask the girlfriend he beat on until she got a restraining order.
Ask the roomate whose food and personal belongings Jeremy and his cronies kept stealing.
Ask the cop who got a bottle to the head.
Ask the people in the local hacker scene who are praying for his ass-ravaging.
Ask the people in the local anarchist scene who're doing the same thing.
Ask the people who went to his "Civil Disobedience" seminar at DefCon a few years back that essentially was just an anti-capitalist "***** their ***** up" rant.
Ask the DefCon organizers who have pointedly DIS-invited him from future events.
Ask his previous employer, who fired him for helping people hack into COMPANY SERVERS with LIVE CLIENT DATA.
4: Jeremy is not about DEBATE for viewpoints that don't match (or are diametrically opposed) to his. He's about SILENCING them.
Jeremy got off ***** lucky as hell. IF he behaves, his 24-month sentence will be over by August 2007. Of course, that's assuming he smart enough to show up and take it like a man, rather than trying to jump bail.
Moreover, with services like Tor, the 3 year no-participate clause is all but unenforceable unless he's CLOSELY monitored.
As for the fine, his daddy's going to wind up taking care of that...
Moreover, now that he's been to prison for a hacking-related offense, mental defectives who're drawn to that sort of thing will assume he's now got "cred".
So let's recap:
He gets an 8 month vacation in Club Fed (maybe with all the butt-sex he can handle).
Daddy pays his fine.
He can thumb his nose at his release restrictions with minimal effort.
He gets his 15 minutes of fame and becomes a Mitnick-wannabe poseur "hero".
Exactly where (outside of the butt-sex...unless he's into that) is there a downside for him? - MrZop, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I hope somebody hacks into his backdoor while in prison. You Get No Firewall In Prison!
- mc7winkie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Do you get conjugal visits in these prisons? Do you get to have sex with these women?
- Devoboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Obviously, reading before posting is such a waste of time.
- xswag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Just go to the website and check it out. It has a lot of Hacking and Cracking simulations for you to play around with.
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Terrific guy. If you don't like what somebody says, steal their credit cards and try and shut them up.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9The problem I have is the "no anarchy related groups" bit. That's the same as saying "no *insert political party here* groups."
- ManiacMac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@hydro
As someone who attends the Chi2600 meets, your totally right. He more oft than not caused us more grief in attending and associating himself with the group than imaginable. He did a lot more than simply spraypaint the building next door though...
- He hacked the public terminals at the club just to show off that he could.
- Took various hacker games waay to far (and refused to clean up his mess)
- Broke into Chi2600's webserver a number of times through various means.
- Broke into one attendee's email account to send emails as that person to the mailing list when he was banned.
-- And the list goes on.
The worst part of all of this is that if it wasn't for him being such a chode to those who didn't agree with his views, he could have been a great guy. He was a talented individual, and to see that wasted because he couldn't control his impulses is always sad.
~ Maniac - mr_bako2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11a crimminal is a crimminal, plain and simple. stealing credit card numbers is a serious crime, and he got what he deserved reguardless of what he was doing with it.
you wanna donate to charity? use your own ***** money. - forgiste, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I dugg you down, but I considered your comment to be funny. I just hope you weren't being serious.
- somekids, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5PDF of search warrant:
http://www.protestwarrior.com/newsletters/jeremy_indictment.pdf - venir, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7duggmirror did not catch the site as of your posting this link.
- bballguy2757, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Man... That was a good site. I hope he has assigned someone to carry it on and keep it up to date.
- acceptab1euname, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@t4inted: I bought a t-shirt because in spite of the fact that I disagree with 90% of what those people say, I think that trolling hippies is really, really funny.
Watch some of their videos sometime...maybe you don't enjoy it, but I find watching the rabid, frothing anti-war protestors' reactions to other people daring to air their dissenting views extremely interesting -- you'd be surprised at the level of hypocracy they display. The videos demonstrate very effectively that people on the far, far left believe that free speech is only for people that agree with them (just like the people on the far, far right), much like this Hammond fellow does. As much as people like to talk about "the left" or "the right", they fail to realize that the people on the extreme end of one are just as stupid and ridiculous as the folks on the extreme end of the other.
But thanks for concluding that I'm incapable of thinking for myself simply because I bought a t-shirt from some website. That makes you a jackass, and if you think it's okay for somebody to steal from me for the same reasons, I would suggest that makes you an *****, too. - salinemist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Extreme right wing lunatics tend to set bombs outside abortion clinics and then afterwards hide in the woods for months.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Now, logging in to digg.com is no picnic. You see, the trick is, kick someone's ass the first day or become someone's bitch. Then everything will be all right. Why do you ask, anyway?
/obscure? - Obvioustroll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+414 year olds are usually fascinated by sex, since they haven't had any yet.
- Pseudorious, on 10/12/2007, -14/+18Hammond hacked sites when he didn't agree with the views expressed? That's pretty Nazi.
I guess he'll learn how it feels to be trampled on when a 300 pound dude wants to make him his girlfriend. - salinemist, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Hammond was "more interested in countering speech he found wrong
rather than picking the pockets" of political rivals, the judge said.
More proof that liberals only believe in freedom of speech for those who think like they do. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Conservatives /= nazi
Liberals /= communist
Yoshi39 = ignorant jackhole -
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