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Google rips Bush administration's search request
mercurynews.com — Google called the Bush administration's request for data on Web searches as ``so uninformed as to be nonsensical'' in papers filed in San Jose federal court Friday, arguing that turning over the information would expose its trade secrets and violate the privacy of its users.
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- 4answer2, on 10/12/2007, -15/+16Americans are pacified by TV so they don't really care about issues like this.
- luke--, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0shweeet
- D43PAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I won't touch Yahoo, AOL or Microsoft ever again.
If Google ever has to turn over it's information I'll never use on my personal PC either. - D43PAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Why did the "it" not show up? Must be some kind of Ebay scam. God damned internet.
- Joe_rigby, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Dear "4answer2",
I'm an American and the requests (not to mention the decisions) made by the Bush administration piss me off to no end. Me and people like me can't really do anything until 2008. That's how it works in America. Not sure about where you're from.
Thank you for your time,
Joe T. Rigby
P.S. Up yours - DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"useful evidence regarding child pornography."
And onec again this isn't a child pornography issue, it's children's access to pornography (aka government legislation of parental responsibility). - bonlebon, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6Don't let a BILL put Google at the GATES of the poor house.
- TheWriteGuy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9On the one hand, the Bush administration is trying to force Google to give up the privacy of its users.
On the other hand, Congress has been grilling Google, and other search companies, for violating human rights in China.
The double-standard that is going on between both the search engines and U.S. government is really pissing me off. - GoaGloba, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Thumbs up to Google!
- DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2joe_rigby
Why are you so pissed at 4answer2 for stating the obvious truth? - D43PAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@TheWriteGuy
If there's a double standard, they've picked the right side. - gizm0duck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2google is just worried we will find out how much they really know about all of us
- TheWriteGuy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Let me clarify:
Google sells out Chinese citizens to the Chinese government. U.S. government is mad at Google.
Google protects the privacy of American citizens from the U.S. government. U.S. government is mad at Google.
Basically, it appears that the U.S. government cares more about the privacy and human rights of Chinese citizens than it does of its own citizens. Meanwhile, Google's "do no evil" does not apply when operating in China. - tionanny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12
@joe rigby
what is this we cant do any thing untill 2008 crap?
what about the 2006 elections?
help eliminate the base on wich he stands VOTE- Joe_rigby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12008 is the presidential election, BTW, and regardless of how his base is doing, he's still going to be president in 2006.
- lobbster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0go google fight the power
- D43PAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2TheWhiteGuy:
I agree with you 100%, just agreeing without using the words "I agree".
To do business in China, Google has to "do no evil" against the government. Just the way it works. - fo0L, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Yeah all i use is google now that all the other big search engines are sleepy with the Bush administration.
Go google go!
+digg in outrage against bush - snarkey, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3
Before everyone starts congratulating Google on its ethical stance, did you stop to think that maybe the reason they don't want to turn over their records is because it would reveal how extensively they are tracking and analyzing your every move across every AdSense-powered web page?
Do not evil. Yeah, bite me. - diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I don't trust Google lol
- automagically, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4>what about the 2006 elections?
>help eliminate the base on wich he stands VOTE
Unfortunately, I was in Iraq during the elections. Absentee ballots were not counted. My vote really didn't matter!
I agree with some of the other contents, Google just might be hiding something. But until something like that is proven, I applaud Google, and have sympathies for their stock. - blogbloke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Google's Defence against the DOJ is self serving. With the recent Google bashing over its capitulation to China, my first impression was to applaud Google for fighting this one. However after reading the materials more closely it seems that Google's motives may be a little less idealistic than first appears. Read more at Instabloke.
- Sibertank, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Thats right google... Take bush down a peg.. lol
- anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11This is just an excuse for the Bush administration to monitor Americans and stifle dissent more, don't kid yourselves. This aministration has been pissing on the constitution of our (once) great country ever since they gained power. I'm a proud American, but I haven't had a reason to be proud since this dickless wonder took office. The fact that he was re-elected by the supposed majority of my country gives me the creeps. Either these elections have been tampered with, or 51% of America is full of complete and total retards.
Libera, conservative.. it doesn't matter. GW Bush is the WORST f'n president in our history (and that includes Nixon!) and if this ***** tries to change the laws so that he can run for a third term, I will most definitely move out of this country. - NickW0817, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I'd rather let Google look at my stuff than the Bush administration.
- Roguecop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2George Dubya can look at my search requests:
Porn
Porn stars
Free Porn
Rue Mcclanahan
Big Boobies
XXX
Bush twins
Pron(Did you mean porn?)
and so forth... - locojones, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Just how does Google turning over the queries made over two months infringe on anyone's privacy?
If it's purely a list of queries, who cares if the government learns that 10% of the queries over those 2 months were for "Britney Spears nude" or "Goatse"?
On the other hand, if, as part of those queries, Google also would have to reveal that it coorelates the search query with other personally identifiable information -- such as your Groups searches, or your Maps searches, or your Gmail login, or the list of documents you inadvertently uploaded through the toolbar, or the content in Gmail you deleted but they didn't -- so that they know what IP is searching for what terms and where. Then things may get interesting. - crimsonalucard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"Let me clarify:
Google sells out Chinese citizens to the Chinese government. U.S. government is mad at Google.
Google protects the privacy of American citizens from the U.S. government. U.S. government is mad at Google.
Basically, it appears that the U.S. government cares more about the privacy and human rights of Chinese citizens than it does of its own citizens. Meanwhile, Google's "do no evil" does not apply when operating in China."
Challenging the government in china would get google booted out permanently. It's not like america where even nazis have a right to express their opinions if you know what I mean. - definiteform, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Google = Jesus Christ.
Bush Administration = Jerry Christ, brother of Jesus, the rascal. - keepitreal05, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This is just like the Sony BMG case. The government is not real creative. They want the search records to prove they have a “John Doe” case. They will be back asking for the ip addresses. We all know what happens next.
To compare this to what China is doing is not even in the same ball park. China simply says don’t let them get to these sites. Not who is trying to get to these sites. If you want something to compare the US to China / Google, look at how some books are banned in the US.
If the government really wanted to stop the kiddy porn, they would be using the search engines to locate the sites. Get their logs after they shut them down. - manano, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Who says we can't do anything about the Bush admin until 2008? Has anyone heard of impeachment? Heck, Nixon was going to get impeached for a lot less than this.... It would be poetic justice for the California governator....
- Roguecop, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4What is:
The cost of doing business in China?
What is:
The value of doing business in China?
The answers being 'gov. dictated censorship', and 'very great indeed'
Neither Google nor any other American company will change China by playing the indignant American patriots but they would lose vast amounts of $$$ in the process.
China quite honestly no longer needs our $$$, the reverse ain't necessarily true is it?
'You want China money round eye hillbillies, you play by China rule.' - roberto_deneero, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4George Bush sucks! Anyone who voted for him in either election sucks just as badly. F*ck Bush and f*ck his administration for their unrelenting efforts to defraud the public...WMDs, Google's "key to the child porn problem", Cheney's attempted murder on his "hunting friend", etc.
BUSH IS A FRAUD. Begin the impeachment proceedings on this a$$hole!! He's just as crooked as Sadam, the only difference being that Bush flashes that Alfred E Newman smile when he lies, steals, cheats, and murders his way around the globe. - dknighton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't think that Google should give up the information either, but their compromise in order to get their foot in the door in China reveals the true "two faces of Google." They thumb their collective noses at the Bush administration because it's the hip thing to do here in America, yet they happily agree to censor search results to please the communist Chines government.
You can toss around all the moral ideals you want, but in the end it's all about money. Those of you who think Google is any different are fooling yourselves. - tearor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1http://scoop.agonist.org/story/2006/2/18/201525/769
"You can toss around all the moral ideals you want, but in the end it's all about money. Those of you who think Google is any different are fooling yourselves." - adam84a, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I usually think you liberal Bush bashers on here are annoying and petty (don't get me wrong... you still are) but this whole thing seems ridiculous. If I understand it right, the problem is that the DOJ wants a random selection of IP addresses and their searches for a specific period of time. Seems like a fair request, but of course my concern as a conservative that believes strongly in a small government that should leave me alone is that the government has no business knowing what I personally am searching for unless I am suspected in a crime and they have a warrant. Now, doesn't it seem like this could all just be avoided if they could just agree on Google giving them the information without releasing the IP address?
Overall, this whole thing is just a part of a plan to try to protect kids from porn, but unless I'm missing something really big here, there's no way to do that on the internet side of things, especially since the ICANN is a bunch of friggin retards and they won't successfully pass a .XXX domain.
Just my $0.02 - Lite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2go google go!
- luckyschop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1anjinash:
"...but I haven't had a reason to be proud since this dickless wonder took office." (referring to bush)
>>>hmm, not exactly, have you seen twins lately? i'd stick it to 'em.
and "Either these elections have been tampered with, or 51% of America is full of complete and total retards."
>>>i don't deny that america is more than half full of retards... in fact, it's pry more like 75%. but he wasn't elected by a simple majority, as there were more than 2 players. it was more like 40%. - CoryTrevor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The Bush Administration should forget about this nonsense and focus on what's really important... tax cuts and eliminating the estate tax. We all know that Paris Hilton needs that money more that our country so lets help her out.... hurray for small government republicans.
- gnjack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Go google, they should never have to give up their information.
This is stupid and the bush administration should never be alble to get away with it. - crispytown, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0What we need is more government programs that watse our hard earned money. I want my money BACK.
As for the google thingie here. Well all I can say thanks for helping the commies!!!! Google needs to learn! - ketsugi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Stop searching for prawn.
- dwhitbeck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Let's see. Google is a hero for protecting child pornographers from the U.S. government. But when the chinese government asks for information about dissidents there is no problem.
- tonage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Americans are pacified by TV so they don't really care about issues like this.
Americans are the only ones pacified by TV? I don't think so. - cathode, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I have never read such maroonic stuff in my life. a bunch of nerdy IT geeks talking about politics like they have a clue. All you know is that it's cool to hate the "Bush Administration" because the media tells you to... so much for free thinking. Go ahead, run with the herd you bunch of pathetic lieberal sheep. baaaa. baaaaaaaaaa.
- aubray1741, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2``The very fact that the Government is so uninformed about the value of search and URL information and so dismissive of Google's interest in protecting it speaks volumes about why the Court should protect Google from this compelled disclosure,'' the company wrote.
Owned. - jdavid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2First, I don't buy this no child porn act, the administration is just using it as an excuse to get power.
Secondly I think information is traded through hidden photo networks using steganography, and it just so happens that taboo concepts like child porn are perfect places to hide the information, who would want to look there, unless they had too. It creates an immediate trust circle, and if one breaks the trust of the others, then Bamm, he, or she is brought up on charges.
The government should never have any more right to enter my digital life than it does my physical home without me knowing! - sych0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1why the hell do people use `` and '' instead of " ? Yahoo news has done that since the beginning of time. what the *****!
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24answer2,
bush & crew may have stolen two elections but this will last 8 years from start to finish
after this America can start the recovery process - - Roguecop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Dear Cathode,
The mind control Kool-aid they give you to drink also appears to be inhibiting your ability to spell and form complete logical sentences. If you continue to watch Fox News, you will likely become a functional illiterate who digs 'big Hemis' and NASCAR in the near to middle future. It is inevitable, your mind is going..... - dotuplink, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1GO GOOGLE! STAY OUT OF OUR BUSINESSES BIG BROTHER!! (reference to the book "1984")
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