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..…………,-‘; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ;,’ , , , , , , ,( : : : : :) , , , ,’’-, ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ;| - brbubba, on 11/09/2009, -1/+129This is why justice is perverted. I think we can all agree that child pornography is a heinous and disturbing crime, but when the appearance of a crime overrides due process one has to wonder how effective the court system is. Furthermore, most juries judging this type of case would severely lack the technical expertise needed to make a fair assessment of the evidence.
- fragbits, on 11/09/2009, -0/+80Scary to notice how easily a person can ruin a person's life without even knowing them..
- asgardshill, on 11/09/2009, -7/+61This is exactly why virus writers should be hunted down and killed, one by one.
- Arkz, on 11/09/2009, -2/+48i think most work at symantec
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 11/09/2009, -0/+41Just paying for an internet connection and being clueless most likely.
- kitkat102, on 11/09/2009, -0/+38So the level of justice you can expect depends on the size of your bank balance.
Nothing new there then. - ThantiK, on 11/09/2009, -0/+36Furthermore, all possession crimes share this same problem. Someone (like a cop)...can easily drop a baggie of pot next to your vehicle, and there's no way of determining that it *wasn't* yours.
- Jerryrad, on 11/09/2009, -3/+32Defense lawyers will be using the classic Pedobear defense.
- martoq, on 11/09/2009, -1/+24This is just some messed up *****. I have been using computers for a very long time and have seen a lot of ***** go down. This by far is pretty damn disturbing. As was said, it is amazing how easy it is to destroy someones life.
- LucidHawk, on 11/09/2009, -0/+23Child pornography is sick..Perhaps the only thing equally sick is the false conviction of innocent people. But much much less of this kind of thing would happen with innocent people if governments respected property rights. There are other ways to deal with crimes that don't involve snooping into what everybody and their mom does on the Internet.
Go after the servers/viruses/people who deliberately spread this crap in the first place not downloaders. As far as I'm concerned downloading anything is not a crime , there can be way too much confusion and people don't always know what exactly they are downloading for one, and now there are viruses like this.. Secondly as a Libertarian, I believe the right to personal property is a fundamental right. Instead they should go after people who deliberately commit violence, exploit, or commit fraud. - SpeedSteamBoat, on 11/09/2009, -1/+23Personally, I feel like the real story here is that some of these zombie systems were power surfing child pornography, presumably at all times they were connected to the internet, and yet that was not what got them caught.
For all the talk about "the police come knocking on your door", it seems virtually all cases of someone getting caught with child pornography, with perhaps the exception of major trafficers, involved someone stumbling upon the offending material rather than a remote police investigation of some kind.
It really just makes one wonder about the practical enforceability of these laws. - Whatasillyhat, on 11/09/2009, -2/+23"Point on the doll where the bear touched you."
"There."
"Seriously...?" - DeadFox1, on 11/09/2009, -0/+21safe from the virus? or the cops?
- MonsterRayn, on 11/09/2009, -5/+24Dugg for not posting the entire image.
- itschop, on 11/09/2009, -7/+26Being framed for downloading/viewing child porn has to be terrifying. Considering that they said some users had AV running, it makes you think twice about switching to the alternatives such as a mac or ubuntu just for the added security.
- richbradshaw, on 11/09/2009, -9/+28They were using Windows.
- Phearce, on 11/09/2009, -1/+19Sigh. Haven't you been paying any attention to the empire's glorious war on drugs? Or the war on terror? They have both been highly effective, and both employee a similar method of chasing down the end-user.
In case you forgot, the goal is a perpetual war. Going after the source -- as you foolishly suggest -- could jeopardize the entire war effort!
I suggest a review of Orwell's 1984. And fast. Thoughtcrime is not a thing that can be concealed forever. - VinceIP, on 11/09/2009, -2/+18"Welcome to the Internet."
-4chan - Lunarsight, on 11/09/2009, -1/+16Elmundio87 - Sometimes it's just a matter of being a lousy speller or typer. If you mistype a website address, that could lead you to a site with a virus.
I also notice it a lot with computer help sites. When I'm looking for information regarding a specific PC issue using a search engine, I notice that Mcafee's Site Advisor will mark 10-20% of the resulting sites with the red virus warning. - graemee, on 11/09/2009, -1/+14Could be a new trend, well a new blackmail trend. They fill you PC full of CP and then threaten to tell The Law if you don't pay them $XXX for a "file wiper". Sort of a combination anti-viral 20XX and the file encrypt blackmail malwares.
- MonkeyOverlord, on 11/09/2009, -0/+12Too bad this didn't happen to a lot of prominent legislators. You'd see the funding of forensics labs and the standards of evidence go up faster than you can say "is she 18 yet."
- BabyFirefly, on 11/09/2009, -0/+11This is horrible.
- linagee, on 11/09/2009, -4/+14The true cost of running Windows. I wonder if they have factored it into the TCO equations?
- MonsterRayn, on 11/09/2009, -1/+11This reminds me of the Gary Glitter case, where he took his PC in to a repair shop, the guy opened his PC case, and child porn was just falling out all over the place.
- Cerebron, on 11/09/2009, -0/+9This is why possession of something should never be a crime. It's too easy to plant or mistake something for someone else's stuff.
- chthonical, on 11/09/2009, -2/+11Now all I can think of is Chris Hansen in the Tron outfit.
- unbenamtl, on 11/09/2009, -0/+8conspiracy is a way of life
- linagee, on 11/09/2009, -1/+9The crime, using Windows. The punishment, the electric chair! (What if this happened with a murder case? I didn't put the evidence files and photos implicating me onto my hard drive! It was a virus!)
We don't know what's real anymore. - roodammy44, on 11/09/2009, -0/+8'where there is smoke there is fire'
I take it you've never seen a smoke machine? - dsfjvhbd, on 11/09/2009, -1/+9I do not think, you got a statistical sample. Computers go to repair, when malware breaks them or becomes in some way visible to the user. This kind of malware, I suppose, is very interested in not slowing or disrupting anything or becoming visible any other way. And it does not sound like something, that uses up a lot of resources.
- cbeach, on 11/09/2009, -5/+12Curious they needed to say "PC virus" as opposed to "virus." We already knew it was going to be affecting Windows.
To pre-empt the haters .. yes.. their are some -trojans- on other platforms, but a trojan is not the same thing as a virus. And before anyone says it, this is nothing to do with market share. Earlier versions of Mac OS (e.g. 9) has many many more viruses than OS X despite smaller market share.
Mac and Linux are the only way to go if you care about security, and would rather not have background processes constantly scanning files and IO. - InfiniteNothing, on 11/09/2009, -0/+7Low level reformat? Otherwise, the data is still there.
- bated321, on 11/09/2009, -0/+7I used that once before. My internet got blocked because spam was routed through my isp
- admdrew, on 11/09/2009, -3/+9like most of the world?
- mkriss5681, on 11/09/2009, -0/+6Use of a proxy is the best way to stay anonymous online. Most people doing illegal things on the internet (spammers, identity thieves, ect) use a botnet to cover their tracks.
- ifruit, on 11/09/2009, -2/+8I have Antivirus 2010, I hope it catches it!
- howdareyou, on 11/09/2009, -1/+7Mac: Hi I'm a Mac.
PC: And I'm a PC and I'm in jail right now because I was framed for downloading child porn. - Engival, on 11/09/2009, -0/+6That's only good for catching viruses that have been written next year.
- eanbowman, on 11/09/2009, -0/+5Well, to be honest - the people who come up with the methods for infection don't often make a virus like this one. They make a virus that can replicate just to proove it's possible and hopefully to get the companies writing the vulnerable software to ante up and fix the problem.
The problem comes when the hackers who find the problem and don't exploit it are ignored. :|
If the hacker didn't try to get the company responsible to fix their software, then you have a situation where only nefarious people are finding problems and that's a BAD situation.
A witch-hunt is not a good option. Most likely the people who are really on your side would be the ones to suffer for the actions of others. - iDiggYa, on 11/09/2009, -1/+6Like yourself. Oops.
- ThantiK, on 11/09/2009, -1/+6Did you know they aren't even required to determine if it's "child porn" anymore? - Yes, if someone says you have child porn on your machine, and ANY of the porn stash could potentially be questioned, bam...child porn. They don't even have to prove it.
(close friend is a legal major) - graemee, on 11/09/2009, -2/+7"All the way to my knee"
- ThantiK, on 11/09/2009, -0/+5Nope, the law states that there is no requirement to determine if the picture is underage or not. I've been explained it in major detail.
- Engival, on 11/09/2009, -0/+4Disable autorun and scan any files that can carry a virus on it.
It won't prevent the infected computer from sticking the virus ON the usb stick. The idea is to not trust usb sticks in your own computer. - linagee, on 11/09/2009, -2/+6Many are in other countries. Good luck with that.
- DaviDTC, on 11/09/2009, -3/+7I'm safe. I reformat every couple of hours.
- nyxerebos, on 11/09/2009, -0/+3Then your freestore would be encrypted, and you would not have the key, freenet takes pains about that for this very reason. an open web proxy, internet spider, etc is another matter.
- MizuhoChan, on 11/09/2009, -0/+3"Blacks" aren't really black, they're brown. So you're out of the loop it seems.
- elmundio87, on 11/09/2009, -4/+7Makes me wonder what these people were doing to get the viruses in the first place
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