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- Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's pretty simple, it was a study that found a neurological reaction to a stimulus (a smell) in a bee. We already generally KNEW this, it was just proven (no longer theory). The downside is that the same neural stimulus reaction is probably not the same in higher evolution lifeforms (like humans) so we probably can't apply much of this study to the human brain (to do something like, say, repair damaged nerves or memory functions).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Take a couple of physiology or psychology classes and it will make perfect sense.
As a general completely inaccurate example:
Think of pinging someone on a wide area network (memory stimulus).
Your ping will take a certain path (such as a memory stimulus among neurons)
Now pretend you stop pinging but the network path that your ping took will "resonate" and/or stay on
The network along that path will now form a better connection. Or you can think of routing protocols... (Neurons do this in your head but up until now there wasn't much proof) - sith333, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To those saying the implications of this on humans are null, take into account that this proves the most basic of signal-response mechanisms, meaning it probably occurs similarly in humans. While the brain of a bee is very simple, it is also incredibly dense, meaning it is more advanced than people are giving it credit for.
- lickmygiggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1While the description does suck, on should really read the article before commenting.
- JzLosman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@rafikichi -- who are you talking to? Is it really your job to regulate what people comment? I took psych 101 and pysch for the new age.
@Moocat -- yeah I agree, nice study, but not a good choice of species when the end result I assume is to apply it to humans. We have many more layers to our brain. I don't know the brain structure of the bee but I would assume they have the primitive cortex and not too much more. - JzLosman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah and to base this off of a bee who has a much more primitive brain structure than ours, I don't think it will be very helpful.
- Billistic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Me! I don't get it.
- nate263, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anyone else confused by the description?
- netnerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's pretty neat, but why is this in the security category?
- nebbyfoshebby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0 thats pretty freaking cool.. but the cooler thing is that im a bee keeper.. so maybe i should try to see if i can find out more about the brain through bee mutilation :D
- tablatronix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Neat, I was just wondering about this yesterday.
Its interesting how nature does things and how we primitivly do them with computers currently. Memory travesral,charge storage etc.
Just thinking of the complexity of a network required to store information as a wave pattern or some other continuous propogation is boggling. - LeeVal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Interesting
- NathanHughes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0We have to start somewhere. Understanding how memory works in other living creatures is a step in the direction of understanding how it works in humans. We are still animals, after all....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this... is... super...
- chosenone-, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Funny how people are so absolute. Animals are animals and humans are human. I've seen more animals act human than humans. Seriously, people need to stop living in this FEAR.
You know what I'm talking about, you insecure bastard. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"That's pretty neat, but why is this in the security category?"
Think about it for a minute. - promethean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Moocat
Hebb's theory of learning has not been proven. Nothing in science can be proven. Theories are confirmed with more and more evidence. Proofs are for math and alcohol. This is a pet-peeve of mine since this is why a lot of people are confused about why evolution is science and not just an "educated guess." - 16x9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> jzlosman wrote: "Yeah and to base this off of a bee who has a much more primitive brain structure than ours, I don't think it will be very helpful."
Testing on simpler lifeforms is exactly how we begin to understand complex biological processes. Yes, of course humans and bees are different. But there are also similarities. And BOTH the differences and the similarities can be used glean knowledge.
I'm guessing that what these people are doing is a fairly early step in a chain of events that may lead to a deeper understanding of this subject. - Kamikid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"i can see how this is related to technology."
Can you also see that little link to the right that says "science"? Yeah. - mrned, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/life_sciences/report-51681.html is a more technical explanation.
- RichCoder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you are interested in theories on how the brain thinks, check out the book "On Intelligence". It totally changed my perception on how the brain works to store and process memories. Hint: prediction
- CadMasterAdam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wicket, give this process or future ones like it, a few dozen, dozen years and the gman will have a fool proof lie detector device. the would have you in a lie if they could follow your nurons.
rockin - physivic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0another quote, for relevance:
"A future question that could be addressed using this research is how short-term memory gets encoded as long-term memory over time, said Galan." - physivic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think the description is fine. the problem is that it doesn't mention man's difficulty in tracing neurochemical examples of memory formation. We all know that neurons fire when we're stimulated, but we don't have a good way of observing the phenomenon, specifically, at the neuron level. The poster simply used the scientist's explication of relevance, a reasonable course of action.
@promethean... (what's with the @t signs??? first time I saw that! perhaps putting them after would make more sense) I agree but try telling that to a scientist! They're very confident. - JzLosman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0one of the most interesting books concerning the brain was "Physics and the Mind." Very interesting if you enjoy physics or can atleast follow along. The author uses physics to explore what we do when we sleep, how we sleep, why we wake up; all sorts of things.
@16x9: Most definitely. I reread my comment, and I didn't actually mean it was useless, I just thought it wasn't quite dig-worthy as of yet. As a science and physics man, I appreciate the experimental stages on being less complex than us. I just thought we had a similar experiment with a rat already completed about a year ago. - grendel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0i can see how this is related to technology.
- Rafikichi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Try taking Psychology 101 before you RTFA.
- JzLosman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Oh and rafikichi, take English 101 before trying to make every phrase you use into an acronym. Just spell it out, you seem more intelligent.
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