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- matthewkg, on 07/04/2008, -9/+141In other news, a major study released today declared water is wet.
- floejoe, on 07/04/2008, -1/+96Too bad my InfoSecurity at my company is banning Firefox and making us remove it due to "security issues." Despite the fact that 14% of our users have firefox.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/05/2008, -2/+64Most people aren't going to understand why that happens.
When you are on an enterprise network, they often have extra software or settings that link into windows and Internet Explorer, for enhanced security, activity monitoring, or other business reasons. Many companies pay firms for customized software to augment Microsoft products.
If the technicians can't make the setup work for Firefox or if doing so is too costly, then they make decisions like this.
Most people are ignorant of this, and will assume that this is about regular web surfing security and that the IT Department are idiots for thinking Internet Explorer is secure.
I use Firefox. IE Sucks. - netneutrality, on 07/04/2008, -1/+60I'd still reckon the competence of the user is at least as important as the competence of the software. People who click on dodgy scam links can expect to get screwed.
That said, I do really like Firefox's unobtrusive updater and the speed they get patches out. I've never been hesitant to let it update... unlike with Microsoft stuff (I keep Windows updates disabled - is that foolish of me? Meh). - inactive, on 07/05/2008, -0/+59That company sounds about as stupid as the company i work for, maybe they should meet.
- tj241, on 07/04/2008, -9/+64Yet another reason to abandon IE
- loker269, on 07/05/2008, -3/+45I don't think this can be laid at the feet of Mozilla...it just seems to me that the people who download alternative web browsers are the ones who wont click "YOU HAVE JUST WON THE SPANISH LOTTERY! CLICK HERE TO CLAIM YOUR PRIZE!".
I just think the more competent users who know how to protect themselves are the ones downloading firefox and the people using IE are less likely to know how to surf the interbutts safely... - DMXell, on 07/05/2008, -14/+52Study versus Secunia. Secunia wins. Opera is the most secure.
- fuckingusername, on 07/05/2008, -4/+30this study is inaccurate, more or less it says , people that installed Fire Fox most of them used the latests version. I like FF but it is not any better then Opera as security goes.
- bmc152006, on 07/05/2008, -11/+36Opera. thats all i have to say.
- jakapi, on 07/05/2008, -7/+28Firefox is the condom of the internet.
- Barackalypse, on 07/05/2008, -3/+21Safer than text only Lynx running on a VMS terminal? I think not!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser) - ultrafez, on 07/05/2008, -0/+16It's called, "pics or it didn't happen".
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+17Really? Where is the link.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -8/+24Solution: stop being lazy programmers and make it work for Fx. It's open source for a reason.
- pwr4, on 07/05/2008, -2/+18You may not be stuck with IE. If you can find out the firewall settings within IE, copy the configuration settings, Get Firefox Portable from portableapps.com and use the same security settings in Firefox. Worked at my company.
- known, on 07/05/2008, -1/+15Install
http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_port ... - iofthestorm, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13Harder? o_O
- tama00, on 07/05/2008, -7/+20"My web browser is better than yours! Even CNN said so!"
nerds are just like school girls. - HigherLogic, on 07/05/2008, -3/+16Firefox 2.x - http://secunia.com/product/12434/
Firefox 3.x - http://secunia.com/product/19089/
Opera 7.x - 9.x - http://secunia.com/product/10615/
Only Opera has no unpatched advisories. Both versions of Firefox still have advisories, and they are "highly critical" ones at that. - netneutrality, on 07/04/2008, -2/+14Nah it's just the same old reason in the form of a shiny new survey!
- Rolcol, on 07/05/2008, -0/+12I was able to get through my school's block of other browsers by installing User Agent Switcher :)
- DiggStarFleet, on 07/05/2008, -6/+18I knew it all along. Nothing could be safer than Firefox - you have Fire and you have a Fox.
- dullnation, on 07/05/2008, -0/+11"The wetness of water is thought to be due to its high moisture content.
(Dr) Jason A. Rush, Dept of Mathematics, Edinburgh University" - invidious, on 07/05/2008, -0/+11It's a design choice that some people like and others don't.
Major upgrades may cause major headaches. Old features may be missing (think Pidgin). New features may be undesirable to some users (e.g. Awesome bar, Azureus, AVG 8, etc.). Associated programs may stop working (e.g. Windows XP SP2 caused a bunch of problems when it first came out, not all of your extensions may have been updated for Firefox 3 compatibility, etc.). The new program may be buggy. UI changes may turn off some users (the new dark Ubuntu test theme comes to mind).
Therefore some programs are designed such that they'll only fetch minor bug fixes and leave users to grab major version changes on their own. It's a decision to pick tried, true, proven, and stable over latest and greatest.
That said, I wouldn't mind if Firefox 2 had some sort of special notification that would pop up and say, "Hey, shiny new version available at Mozilla.com! Warning: Only install if you know what you're doing!" - gmoney1, on 07/05/2008, -2/+12sounds like a daft punk song.
- pirlok, on 07/04/2008, -8/+18harder, better, faster, stronger and SAFER. I can't think of a reason of why somebody would use other browsers.
- tomwhughes, on 07/05/2008, -0/+10But I thought that foxes were afraid of fire? I smell a literal paradox...
- known, on 07/05/2008, -4/+14Open Source Software Promotes Competition in Businesses.
Closed Source Software Promotes Collusion in Businesses. - SuperSneaks, on 07/05/2008, -5/+15Do you know how annoying "Protected Mode" is?
- computerguydk, on 07/05/2008, -0/+10I understand your point, and I agree with you somewhat because it is important to be able to identify internet threats, but there are also a lot of people that aren't competent users using Firefox. Both my dad and sister know very little about computers, but I eventually persuaded them both to use Firefox because their computers were always getting viruses and spyware. After a few years of having them both use Firefox, I receive less phone calls about their computers being screwed up with viruses and spyware. The bottom line is: Internet Explorer allows unauthorized installation of software on your computer, and Firefox does not.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+9How could this happen!!!
- Alucard010, on 07/05/2008, -3/+11Firefox is the only protection I need. I have been using Firefox on this computer for over a year without any form of virus, malware, or spyware protection. Yesterday, out of curiosity, I installed a few programs to scan my computer for infections and they came up with absolutely nothing. Thanks Firefox!
- JKAL, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8FAIL.
You should maybe next time click on the story and read it, then you might inadvertently find out CNN had nothing to do with this article, (hint: article is from crn.com) - jazzbeaux, on 07/05/2008, -6/+13Opera > FF
- Cenobite, on 07/05/2008, -10/+17"That piece of ***** on the buffet table is okay! It's completely sealed in Glad Wrap and can't touch any of the other food, so it's fine."
- pHreaksYcle, on 07/05/2008, -1/+8I saw a wallpaper of a Firefox condom before...obviously photoshop material but still ingenious.
- scy1192, on 07/05/2008, -2/+9The same thing was said in a story that hit the front page not too long ago. Firefox users update their browsers more.
- kd420, on 07/05/2008, -2/+8I can, ignorance. If windows came with FF or Opera, most people would stick with it.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -5/+11This is the biggest problem Internet Explorer is tied into the OS , they need to un-tie it.
- grimward, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6My sister used to download those, until I educated her in the finer arts of internet scamming (and got her to switch over to firefox with noscript)
Education is king, as this article proves. - tackle, on 07/05/2008, -1/+7But don't you think having 0 unpatched Secunia advisories makes it safer? http://secunia.com/product/10615/
- saisumimen, on 07/05/2008, -1/+7Known troll.
- iofthestorm, on 07/05/2008, -2/+8It's a nice idea, but unfortunately you have to leave UAC on to use it so I can't use it, but then I only use IE for downloading stuff from microsoft so I don't have to download the WGA checker for firefox each time.
- stretch611, on 07/05/2008, -0/+5History from the late 90's (from the antitrust trial) showed us that Microsoft (justifiably) saw Netscape as a threat and came out with internet explorer to combat that threat.
- trekie1701, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7No picture or vid then its not true.
- Griminald, on 07/05/2008, -3/+8Thanks MacSux for explaining it to people quickly.
I have Firefox on my computer here at work (and I'm an IT staffer) but the general user base doesn't. It's mostly because I work for a Library System, and while we'd love to use Firefox, we don't. Our software for internet access would need tweaking to add in support, and people would actually complain if they had to "figure out something new" (most "end users" don't understand why it's better and just want something "simple". Ironic though). - inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6I can think of many other reasons than this to abandon ie, this just one of the same old reason in the form of a shiny new survey
- Niz1, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6I do windows updates manually, once i left flashget to download a bunch of stuff, only to find in the morning my computer had automatically restarted with a message saying "to complete update the computer had to be automatically restarted" WhyTF does it need to automatically restart! This automatic restart happened too often so i just set it to manual.
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