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- WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+52They can suck it...
No way I'm using any communication software with back-doors built in. Back-doors are just security breaches waiting to be discovered. Nothing they can do to stop people from running this software, or others like it... - dapperdrake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+48Come on, you guys are ridiculous. This is great! Now the government can protect us even more! I'm glad they're doing this since we all know that those who are wiretapped are obviously terrorists...
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+44HAHAHA I just got new batteries for my sarcasm detector. You can't fool me!
- jessecrouch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+38let's get rid of the FCC
- mbwilliamson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36They can intercept anything they want; it's the encrypted communications that they're worried about.
- trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+34God I love open source:)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30Blocking Skype? Well, this officially moves the United States into being more totalitarian than CHINA.
Truly amazing. - kratos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25You right prohobition never happened.
- SuperSloth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26WAR IS PEACE!
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY! - kratos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23Man I'm glad I don't live in Oceania... I mean the U.S.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23"If they can intercept emails and web activity, why can't they intercept skype conversations?"
the point is that they shouldn't be able to. duh - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Who watches the watchers?
- CypherXero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21In the world of politics, it's still very much relevent to today, not like technology, where old means 2 weeks ago.
- Unr3a1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Nobody is going to go to your website.
p.s you misspelled *their - ksgant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19What gets me is that who are they tracking? What criminal or terrorist would openly use the net or a trackable phone line to say anything when ANYONE can walk into Best Buy, pick up a Nextel or whatever phone and pay cash for it. Then pick up a phone card and pay cash with that too. Now you have a phone that's not linked to any name. The only thing they can link it to is the cell-tower that's being used by it. OK, so the criminal/terrorist calls from downtown Chicago or New York....so the FBI/NSA sees that the call was from New York....so that narrows it down to like 3 million people that could have called. Good luck tracking them down.
So again, who are they listening for? It's idiotic. - Stopher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18"That interpretation was confirmed by an FCC spokesman on Monday, who asked not to be identified by name."
The cowards won't even come out and say it. - Strahd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I agree. The FCC was founded to be a "traffic cop" for the radio spectrum and they have long since gone past that mandate. They are now serving as content police (oh noes, a nipple!) and shills for the FBI and NSA.
- boredzo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Well, I didn't know about it until just now. Better late than never.
- sert, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15well theres no way they will be able to snuff out and cripple all voice communication software. its so stupid, if people really want to keep under the radar they will find a way to do so. meanwhile they are tracking all the people who have no reason to hide.
- Darmichar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15If you can't bring yourself to the proper usage of 'their' in a post on Digg, what makes you think I would want to click your spam-whore link to read more of your moron grammar?
You might want to work on punctuation while you're at it. - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12oceania's england too, buddy. and you better believe they're even farther along than the us in the police state plan.
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13when they come for our guns, give em the ammo first.
- Niten, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13@Yoshi39
That's an interesting link. However, I did talk with a friend in Shenzhen over Skype just yesterday - whether she found a way around this restriction, or whether this policy simply no longer applies, I will have to ask. - cajunman4life, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Disclaimer: I am an American.
It'll be a sad, sad day when Americans have to "go underground" to get privacy/encryption software that isn't "approved" (read: no back doors). I especially liked the comment above quoting Hermann Goering... Sound like anything we've heard in recent years? Donate now to the EFF so they can continue to fight for us all. - soogy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Well, you might not want to, but I don't think it's mandatory for them to tell you there's a government-instated backdoor in their software.
On another note, wouldn't it be illegal to make such software if it were to be downloaded internationally? Other countries, which have more restrictive laws, wouldn't allow this to go on. Would they have to supply a separate version for everyone else? - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
-Hermann Goering, during the nuremburg trials - kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12In Bush's America, Everyone is a terrorist!
- Amaruca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Speak Freely is an open source voip application created by John Walker (founder of autodesk) years ago and has been the foundation of several voip applications to date. http://www.speakfreely.org/
- kyriakos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I hope this only applies to US versions. The rest of the free world can manage without wiretapping on its citizens. Governments should be working for their people not against them.
- eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Don't get rid of the FCC. Vote people into office that are pro-consumer, pro-privacy, pro-rights. FCC positions are appointed by the adminstration.
Getting rid of the FCC would be like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. If it's not the FCC, it would be the DHS taking away our rights. It's not the organizations, but the people running (if you call it that) them that matters. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Getting rid of the federal tax would be a great idea.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8This is old news and was an opinion posted along with the FCC's attempt to extend CALEA to the internet. Said attempt has been failing miserably in court challenge to the extension filed the EFF and CDT among others.
"'This is wholly ridiculous,' [Judge Harry] Edwards said, saying that Congress' meaning was clear. The FCC's argument 'is such gobbedlygook, it's really funny.... It's utter nonsense.'"
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004638.php
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/05/judge_fccs_rule.html
Another judge called the FCC's reasoning tortured at best.
Seriously start reading those datelines before you post a story. - Jherad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I think it's kinda cool - in a perverse way.
If a piece of (encryption related) software gets approved, don't touch it with a bargepole as it is obviously wider open than a hooker's legs. If it doesn't get approved... Go download it anyway (via a proxy or Tor if necessary)
:P - madtinkerer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I think, since this problem isn't going to go away, we should try to flood the network with flagable messages. Every time you send an email or make a call, be sure to include the words Osama, bomb, George W. Bush, terrorist, oil, visa and flight training in the conversation.
- guttertrash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6america is the flagship of democracy. america is free. quick invade a country to make them free.
americans must want their government spying on them, otherwise they would protest, and vote, and get a government that does what the voters want, not what the oil companys and weapon manufacturers and timber companys and every single other large organisation that has a puppet on strings in their government. i dont understand how america got that way, and why there isnt major civil unrest because of it. - antigravity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6While we are at it lets get rid of the FBI also, we have the DHS now what good are they now.
- SmeRndmGy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is unconfirmed (fortunately) and unenforcable (fortunately!). Trying to regulate software and the internet is just a waste of time. You can get anything on the internet. ANYTHING. Including things that "they" do not want you to be able to get. Unfortunately it seems that freedom is being added to that list of things they do not want us to have. Apparently "the land of the free" does not include the internet.
- ddales, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Again, the Gov has been doing this type of thing for decades. The only difference between 1976 and 2006 is that they aren't afraid if people find out about it any more. The first poster was right on the mark. It's encryption that the Gov doesn't like. They're spending tons of cash to tap into every single communications channel that exists. They won't be very happy when they can't decipher anything that they are listening in on.
On the other hand. When big companies are forced to start spending money on technologies that allow the listening in, they will get pissed and send checks to their list of favorite Congressmen. That's how laws and regulations get changed. - PhantomZmoove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6While we are tossing out three letter acronym agencies, lets dump the IRS too. If we changed the way taxes are levied to something that made at least a LITTLE sense, we wouldn't need that group anymore.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Maxxuss will release a patch.
- aliensoldier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"when they come for our guns, give em the ammo first."
That's a phrase that deserves to be quoted! - Zuggy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If Skype doesnt comply they will go down by the government. If they do comply they will go down by the consumer.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is Nazi Germany all over again! Bush/Cheney must be impeached now!!!!!
- letterten, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5the FCC has becomes a joke, as is most of the federal gov't -- everything is done in the supposed interest of "fighting terrorism." i ask you to join me in giving a big one-finger salute to the FCC, the FBI, the NSA and any other beltway agencies. i'll use whatever software i want to use.
- deesnutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4SuperSloth hit this right on the money.
"WAR IS PEACE!
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY!"
This is what this administration and republican party has done to this great country. Funny thing, it looks like a page from Hitler's play book. When will our fellow American's realize what is taking place and put a stop to this madness. I know some will say, "They need to do it to fight the war on terror". But look what is happening every other week the government comes out with a way to limit our freedoms and free speech (supposedly "in the name of fighting terror").
This has to stop. Because at the rate it is going, we'll soon have all our conversations wiretapped and logged (NSA). One might get arrested, held off-shore and indefinitely without a trial (Git-mo). Get shot in the face by a government official and have to publicly claim it's your fault (Cheney). Fear of contradicting the president and now putting your spouse's life in danger (CIA Leak). And the list goes on.
But wait, that's already happened. God help us all before they start passing out the arm bands.
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http://www.democratgiftshop.com - Phssthpok, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Get it while you still can
GPG http://www.gnupg.org/ or PGP http://www.pgpi.org/
Secure Voice over IP: Zfone http://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/zfone/index.html
Remember .... First They Came for the Jews - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4then dick cheney can yell at himself.
- raid517, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Seriously though, there should be a CIA guy assigned to every home, watching everything you do - in the bedroom, in the bathroom, in the shower - taking notes of everything you do.
Just imagine how safe you would be! - toddbu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I'm sorry, but I don't buy any of this "won't mention his name" crap. If you can't name the source then don't even mention the conversation. Otherwise I have no way of knowing whether or not the information is made up.
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