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- Travelsonic, on 06/13/2009, -0/+32before anybody asks, "Do you have something to hide?,"
Yes I do, it's called a private life, the keystone to privacy, and I'd appreciate it if you kept your stupidly ignorant nose out of it. - tehpwnerofn00bs, on 06/13/2009, -1/+30F*** wiretapping. Anyone who thinks it is legal or moral, or who think our government is trustworthy with that sort of power, is living in a fairytale.
- ElectricRebel, on 06/13/2009, -0/+11This is exactly why we need to encrypt all communications. When everything is encrypted, signal intelligence reaches diminishing returns.
- zanzzz, on 06/13/2009, -0/+10Is there really any end to government intrusion into everyone's lives merely because technology can now make it possible? Massive unregulated data base collections of every conceivable document and wide scale data mining of every form of electronic communication throughout the world effectively negate privacy and Constitutional protections. Every half assed fig leaf of a legal protection is ignored, abused, or steamrolled over because the ends always justify the means. Welcome to Dick Cheney's world, The United Surveillance States Of America.
- enantiodromia, on 06/13/2009, -0/+7It always surprises me that everyone loves the EFF even if they hate the ACLU, which is basically the EFF, but instead of "Electronic" it's "Everything"
- m3arvk, on 06/13/2009, -1/+5This just in: ~50% of Americans and most Fox News viewers are living in a fairy tale.
- goes211, on 06/13/2009, -0/+4The problem with the ACLU is that they only selectively support the constitution ( never a peep about the 2nd amendment ) and therefore it is easy to associate them mostly with progressives. I can't think of any issues on which I disagree with the EFF which is why they are worthy of my yearly support.
- cawfee, on 06/13/2009, -0/+3Avon Barksdale never saw it coming.
- m3arvk, on 06/13/2009, -0/+3It's a new era; one where under the pretense of saving lives the powers-that-be increasingly erode one's personal liberties.
- ulcards2033, on 06/13/2009, -0/+2Did I say he created it? Regardless of who created it Obama is now the one who controls it. Do you deny this?
Stupid left wing ***** always shifting blame. guess what, if it was wrong when bush did it, then it is still wrong when obama does it. - zombird, on 06/26/2009, -0/+2Only terrorists and enemy combatants want privacy. A normal person would want their own reality TV show.
- Kyzzyxx, on 06/18/2009, -0/+2I know the government tried to passed a law that all encryption methods have to supply a backdoor scheme that will allow the govt to read any encrypted document should they need to. Ironically, I was never able to find the results of that vote but I don't doubt it was passed. But I also have to wonder if they were able to actually enforce this as some encryption techniques were developed in other countries where they cannot enforce it. But, again, I wouldn't put it past those powers to want the same thing and work with the US govt to enforce it
- EvilNecro, on 06/13/2009, -0/+2so much for Change then, eh?
"meet the new boss, same as the old boss" - ulcards2033, on 06/13/2009, -4/+5Get with the times man, change has come to America. This is now Barack Obama's United Surveilance States of America.
- triclipse, on 06/13/2009, -1/+2Welcome yourself to Obama's world, too. It is remarkably similar to Cheney's ...
- moskrin, on 06/15/2009, -0/+1back door? I'd wiretap that...
- zanzzz, on 06/13/2009, -1/+2It may be an Obamanation now but these shenanigans took place under Cheney the Dick's watch.
- ulcards2033, on 06/14/2009, -0/+1Yea the left wing dig was only because you called me a right winger haha. I readilly admit that both parties are to blame and consider myself libertarian until one of the other parties gets its act together. I'm not sure where the left is acknowledging any of Obama's problems, at least not officially.
Both parties use scare tactics to ***** us over, the only difference is the boogey man. For Bush it was the terrorists, for Obama its the economy (and the republicans). Obama and democrats in congress used the actions of bush and republicans in congress to get elected (and the republicans will do the opposite in a few years), but they have no intention of reversing the majority of these actions. All political actions in this country are very short sighted, although I will admit that the democrats have been much better at insuring that they are out of office before the ***** comes back to hit em in the face. - m3arvk, on 06/13/2009, -0/+1Anyone care to explain to me how the hell this could be profitable? It is so obviously spam that no one in their right mind would click the links. If you want click-throughs use tinyurl and hide it in a post which appears to be legit.
- Travelsonic, on 06/13/2009, -0/+1<free> do you want to have the ***** kicked out of you?
<free> do you like getting yourself banned from websites?
<free> spammers like you... have a life? yeah right.
Get the ***** off my digg.
buried / reported. - yourcommentsux, on 07/02/2009, -0/+0"backdoor wiretapping" = a mic taped to your ass?
- shrudheuie, on 06/13/2009, -1/+1So the Bush administration passes the Patirot Act and wipes it ass with the Constitution, but it is Obama that created the surveilance state.... 6 years later? Is he a time traveler? was he secretly working behind the scenes and running the country from Chicago?
The problem with those on the right wing today is that they are ***** retarded. Reality is WAYYY over there guy, you may want to join it. - shrudheuie, on 06/13/2009, -0/+0PGP (pretty good privacy) is a good free way to encrypt your emails. I recommend sending all sensitive communications encrypted, but every once in a while send an unencrypted message that contains something like "so an agent stopped by and raped my cat today" or "that agent would flip out if he knew how good his mom handles a *****." If nothing else, the trial would be more fun!
- Astark, on 06/13/2009, -0/+0Even better... "Backdoor tapping."
- SexyPeyton, on 06/13/2009, -3/+2Ha... LOL's... he said "backdoor"...lol's
- shrudheuie, on 06/14/2009, -1/+0I hate to be a pain in the ass by pointing out reality here, but both the left and the right do the same things when it comes to blame shifting. The main difference is what extent they go. The right has a tendency to prey on uninformed retards by pressing unfacts like "Obama is not an American"and "Obama is a Muslim terrorist that attended a crazy Christian church" and "Obama is turning this country into a socialist Utopia." One only has to watch such outstanding mental midgets as Glenn Beck to see how bad it is.
We are reaping what was sewn by a bunch of right wing ***** that voted for Bush twice. Make no mistake, this is the Bush legacy. Obama is doing some ***** up things, most of which involve not reversing course of Bush policies, but some mistakes are his own. The difference between the right and the left is that the left is acknowledging that NOW as opposed to 8 YEARS LATER. - Black6x, on 06/13/2009, -5/+1This is
1) inaccurate
2) old news
The gov't has been able to do this for a long time. Proper procedure simply requires that they serve the ISP with a preservation letter. This requests that the ISP not delete your data that they may regularly purge (such as deleted emails). This is especially done with dynamic IP addresses, since ISP's delete the logs occasionally (because they need to know who had what IP address at what time). Then they come with the subpoena for the info.
If they want to read your emails and communications in real-time, they still need a warrant. It is the exact same with phone taps. They subpoena your phone records to see where you called in the past. If they want what you are doing as it happens, then need the warrant for the Pen Register / Trap and Trace (two techniques that are just about always done together), and a warrant for the Title III (wiretap). It's a soft area, since the real issue is at what point does an email become real-time.
Phone records are easy to define as "past" but at the same time, they offer no "content" (e.g. exactly what was said during the call), unlike an email which offers content no matter what. The interception of regular mail without a warrant allows the viewing of the outside of the envelope. A warrant is required to open it (small fact: if there is unopened mail in your house during a search warrant, they can't open it unless that is specifically in the warrant). It's harder to minimize an email, but minimization is a completely different matter.
The SCA still requires a warrant for the gov't to read your unopened emails that are less than 180 days old.
Lastly the "landmark victory" only applies in the Southern District of Ohio. Every district can set slightly different requirements on what the gov't need to do or can't do to bring a federal case to trial. I won't get lengthy(er) unless asked, but let's say in Southern dist of NY, there is a rule about the perp walk that was deemed a 4th amendment violation, and was caused because of Fox news.
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