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- kevinrose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"This actually sounds like a bad idea. Can anyone say abuse?"
Algorithms my friend - this isn't just based on raw number of reports. - jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10This actually sounds like a bad idea. Can anyone say abuse?
Much in the same way that koolaidguy would create multiple accounts to spam his comments and to promote stories, what happens when groups of people or a single person with multiple accounts starts taking their personal vandettas out on people and content? - kevinrose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I've known (since inception) that the system could be exploited with false accounts. That's why I made changes to the promotion system some 280+ days ago ( http://digg.com/digg_news/digg_promotion_algorithm_updated )
Since we rolled that out - it has worked very well. The larger you grow, the more traffic, the more spam. As the spammers adapt, so do the systems we have to deal with them. More coming soon.
Also see:
"Missing stories: A common question we receive is the confusion surrounding missing stories. Once a story has received enough user reports it is automatically removed from the digg queue or homepage (depending on where the story is living at that time). The number of reports required varies depending on how many diggs the story has. This system is going to change in the near future. Soon, reported stories will fall into a ‘buried stories’ bin. Users will have the ability to pick through this story bin and vote to have a story reinstated should they believe it was falsely reported." - kevinrose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6We want to provide everyone with tools to report and remove user SPAM. More details coming soon...
--k - element, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Koolaidguy is nothing more than a script kiddie. His "hacks" are that he registers a user, then does a to the digg comments. He hids behind the mask that he's trying to "help" digg. This is simply not truth, he is just a troll, a lonely person with nothing better to do with his time. Digg will develop tools that combat this. I chalk it up to growing pains, it happened to slashdot, now it is happening to digg. All great sites go through this.
+Digg - dongiaconia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3will it be called KoolAid Killer?
- mr.hostility, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"ban inappropriate content"
Exactly what does that mean? Just spam posts, or will people ban things they find morally wrong? - wearsch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Excellent. Power to the people!
- Gregd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why are people jumping on the poor KAG bandwagon. Where the hell were you when he was "exploiting" digg by posting the lame "Kevin Rose is a tool" posts and so forth. He wasn't merely pointing out a flaw in diggs process but making digg almost unusable when he was doing it. How the ***** is that cool in the slightest?
It's a bit like walking into someone's house and stealing the television because they left their doors unlocked. - isewise, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Excellent. Death to Koolaidguy!
- ThisGeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One thing that digg could do with is a message board. Everyone prefers a forum post vs an email when they want to suggest something, report something, ask something etc.
Just a thought. - thewordwasgod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1kevin: any chance at a negative digg feature? was this ever in consideration, i have noticed that in certain areas, the digg count is listed as "+[diggs]" the plus sign seems redundant, unless this was at one poitn going to be part of the methodology.
the problem is that with the userbase that digg has, really bad stories, or stories with terrible headlines or descriptions often get a high digg count- many digg users seem easily excitable. assuming that there really is a decent percentage of users who do not want to see trash piling up on the front page, it would make sense to have a negative digg feature- this is somewhat different then the report functionality.
maybe my point is unnecessary when users will be able to vote stories out of 'buried' status.
comments? - Gregd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes! Why give *he who shall remain nameless* anymore credit then s/he deserves? Seriously. Yeah to the digg team for staying on top of this and rolling out the new stuff so quickly!
- JAWS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree that a forum for Digg would be awesome.
- ThisGeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@mrhostilty.
I agree, what will stop people banning content that they think is inappropriate purely on a, say, political basis. - TRUEPATRIOT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1w00t this is good to hear following the spam this week
- brucebeh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1this sounds like a cool idea, i hope it works out
- ThisGeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I still think it should be called KoolaidSpy.
- element, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I doubt Albert is a spammer. Kevin has said time-and-time again they have checked him out:
http://digg.com/technology/I_found_albertpacino. - crapiolio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Users will have the ability to pick through this story bin and vote to have a story reinstated should they believe it was falsely reported."
That's good to hear. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1just remember to watch out for those who think admin digg with the "this is not tech related" rants left and right, there is nothing more dangerous than a lonely geek with a moderator label.
- lllkailll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Quote Spamming.
What do You consider spamming.
I think a lot of you think spamming is anything to do with posting anything you consider spam.
Okay Koolaid dude is just a idiot we count him out.
But do you consider someone posting a truthful story about something in topic with the category spam?
Or someone trying to sell you something?
My version of spam on sites like this is;
To cause a newsgroup to be flooded with
irrelevant or inappropriate messages. You can spam a newsgroup with
as little as one well- (or ill-) planned message (e.g. asking "What
do you think of abortion?" on soc.women). This is often done with
cross-posting (e.g. any message which is cross posted to
alt.rush-limbaugh and alt.politics.homosexuality will almost
inevitably spam both groups). This overlaps with troll behavior;
the latter more specific term has become more common.
So what is here has no way any respect to the topic. Now this is Spam.
If someone has posted about a game or gaming hardware or whatever has to do with gaming no matter where it came from and is not advertising. You call this spam? - spiderland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How about prohibiting known blog sites for articles? This would really cut down on dupes/reposts.
- element, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Let me guess Scott, if Digg said "we will handle administration of users" you would bitch up and down the street. Now that they say the users control the content you say "digg is lazy". hahaha, go troll somewhere else.
- lllkailll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1lol clans will ban who they want to no matter what the situation is. If the clan hates you, your banned.
In results that will be the slow death to Digg by clan wars. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I was going to say 'you beat me to it', but you beat me to it.
- eschatonik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Snuffkin & SupaDawg: Paying blogspot users are allowed to remove the bar.
- multifaceted, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow there are a lot of paranoid people on digg. If you call this addiction mob rule, isn't the digg system mob rule under that criteria?
That said, the word algorithms makes my head hurt. Math != me. I hope I put that symbol in the right order. - white, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ok cool but where the hell is the digg graveyard you've been talking about FOREVER. the changes will make it even more necessary
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Digg should use http://www.linksleeve.org -- not only would it filter out spam for themselves, but also help everyone else filter out digg spammers from spamming their sites.
- NoOneButMe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sounds great, from the way you describe it, it looks to be extremely useful.
My only question(s) as of now, is, since you said its based on an algorithm, would it mean that one person's comments/submission would eventually mean more someone else's? ex, Would someone who rarely submits something but is correct in doing so mean more then someone who submits anything that has any possible questionable content or is lame? - dragonmortal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1can we ban people who make stupid comments so they can just list their personal blog.
- Cerberus047, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0lets not abuse it and it wont be a problem way to go koolaidguy.... you dumb *****
- gamerzworld, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kevin, Is it going to be like if "lots of people" report you is it going to report you to a Admin and the Admin will look to see if you should be baned?
- jpie05, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sorry I'm relatively new, what does Kool Aid Guy do to piss everyone off?
- JordanAustin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Is this like how we are going to release the next thebroken episode, which u've said about 12x times, always letting me down.
- This is probably going to happen, but I couldn't help but remind kevin of the fact that he has been telling us thebroken for what, a year now? - alimaeadoin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@lobbster
http://koolaidguy.wordpress.com/ - disord3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's unfortunate that this links to a blog. I'd like to know what it's all about.
- coachace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sweet.
- MikeCampo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have a feeling it will eventually be abused, but at least it's a start.
- Lainy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I hope this will work well. I know it will grow and change as things always do.
- moolcool, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this is cool it sounds alittle like a wiki. know what sounds cool if KEVIN ROSE IS READING diggtorrent so the best torrent for anything will be dugg to top and in an rss feed kindof a combonation of tvtorrents wkipedia and digg
- DurangoSteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thank you Kevin...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you get a kick out of spamming Digg, much less anything else, you're a frickin' tool.
- slorocks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thank You now my son won't be as likely to link to the sick junk like Mr Disaster left as a link about digg and some other site. Again Thank you again
- grayapple, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thank ***** for that one, let the Kevin and his team do what they think is best.
- gwjc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hmmm.. maybe we should wait and see what it's like and how it works.. then we can all make intelligent comments. Still, like Mendelson Joe said: Censorship is the devils canoe
- motorbikematt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ timewarrior
You should actually post this link to make it easier for people to comment on the deletion of jerky Wehatetech article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wehatetech - Thorpe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Great move to make. Well done.
- jamesburton1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Keep up the good work!
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