49 Comments
- conto1987, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Why does stuff like this always come from my home state New Jersey
- lydon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I work for a SMALL bank that had THOUSANDS of our customers information compromised (everyone's that was compromised had visited the OfficeMax here in town within the past two years) and we have lost about $15,000 and counting because of this crap. These people deserve to be in prison for a long time and OfficeMax should also have to bear some of the burden.
- tazamore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Why has no one suggested suing OfficeMax for gross negligence??? There is no reason for merchants to store debit PIN numbers after the transaction is approved. There ought to be a law...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ask Tony Soprano!
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I really don't understand why anyone uses debit cards: credit cards are better in every way.
1. There's no direct line to your money; yes, I know you eventually get it back but that's a huge pain in the ass and in the meantime you're out X dollars.
2. Many merchants charge extra fees to debit card users, whereas they cannot do so to credit card users.
3. You get better protection from merchants with a CC: you can contest a charge months later, whereas once the merchant has the money in your account your position is much weaker.
4. You only need to balance your checkbook once a month, when you pay the CC bill. Pay the full balance every month and there's no interest charge.
5. With a CC you're building your credit; not so with a debit card. - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5even though they did the crime and will probably be sent to prison we shouldn't celebrate the idea that they may get beaten up or raped in prison.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Forget beaten up, they'll be dropping the soap for years.
- mck9235, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Good. Serves them right, they'll probably be beaten up in prison, too.
HAH - edrift101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The larger issue here is why big business/government is allowing this to happen. How are they protecting their customer base? By leaving laptops full of credit card numbers, pin numbers and personal data in their cars... Lawsuits against these companies would be in order.
- jus1haz2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2what dick heads
- mike_p, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It comes from NJ because we're basically the suburb of the greatest city in the world with the greatest history of crime. The mob is strong in NY/NJ for a reason. They don't bother people that mind their business so all you out-of-towners need to relax... NJ is by far one of the greatest states to live in. Just don't visit Newark/NYC or Camden/Philly and assume the rest of the suburbs are like that.
- psyon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Funny. I just got a new debit card in the mail today. I called to find out why, and they explained to me about the bust. Then I come on line and read about it on Digg. I need to check Digg before I call people from now on.
- lezombi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1north jersey: the most terrible region of the world. south jersey tried to secede from north jersey in the 70s--we should try again! everything that's wrong with NJ is because of north jersey!
- mr.hostility, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Now if we could only take them out back and beat them with a pipe.
- SteveR4376, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Death penalty!
- davidrantz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A nice win for law enforcement.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love my sate.
- lydon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I doubt, then, that you have found any charges on your bank account for a porno site in Germany.
- 1337d00d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1and the peasants rejoice
- will-rom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When I couldn't log into visa extras I found out my card was replaced because of a national clearing agency being broken into... the letter with the replacement said information could have included account number, SSN and PIN...
- ryogahibiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We need to get really tough on Identity Theft theives. Anybody involved with stealing any financial or social security information should go to prison for life. Maybe the harsher penalties will make these theives think twice before they commit these crimes.
And businesses need to ENCRYPT our personal info. at ALL TIMES. We wouldn't have most of these ID theft problems if these businesses spent a tiny bit more money and time to make our info. more secure. And businesses that do lose our info. needs to be severely punished with exhorbitant fines and our government needs to stop codling these businesses and stop accepting their lobbying money. - jsm522, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love these stories! I had my Debit card number stolen once and some guy spent $600 on porn and "Adult phone services". The bank credited everything but it was a real hassle. I called the businesses and they gave me all of the phone numbers where the calls originated. I was able to give the police a cell phone number and a home phone number. The detective told me they would not be able to do anything because they couldn't prove who was using the phone!
- dlichteman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We have a very strict policy on credit card use at my work:
1. Any web order shipping that is over $200 must ship to the billing address on the credit card
2. For will call orders, the cardholder must pick up the order, with the card and ID, noone else, or pay cash if someone else comes. - icefitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There was a news report the other day about this and they said that it was the law not to record PIN in most places but that the point of sale software used by some companies did it anyway.
- MikeMacMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"If we get caught, we're not going to white-collar resort prison. No, no, no. We're going to federal POUND ME IN THE ASS prison. "
I hope thats where they end up... - ryogahibiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They'll be lucky if all that happens to them will be just getting "beat up."
Just don't drop the soap....:) - 187lennon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1chompy, I hope you're joking... If not, please do not ever vote or breed.
- andr3y, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0not too long ago in Toronto some dude used small wireless cam attached to ATM machine to steal your pincode, they got cought somehow
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I've been the victim of fraud, but people are sentenced to serve time - not to be tortured
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I disagree; the worse prison gets, the better deterrant it becomes. The more prisoners die in prison, the less recidivism the rest of us have to deal with.
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1A law that protects citizens and costs a major corporation money? You must be new here, welcome to America!
- whatsMYname, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's what I was wondering. They caught some bad guys now do something to the sloppy businesses.
- jonnyd226, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yes! This is awesome. I actually had my card stolen and $240 taken from my account. Bank of America was very helpful with it and cancelled my account / got me a new card quickly, but still scary since they were able to steal my PIN somehow...
- EricAnderton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Chompy and Icefitz are both dead on here. The government around here has become increasingly pro capitalisim and economy, almost at the expense of Joe Sixpack; so attention seems to be allocated according to your share of the GNP. I have no data, but after reading slashdot and digg, that's what it looks like. I'd be happy to be wrong about that.
As for the neglegence: go straight to the software vendor, even though their EULA probably says that they don't even promise to have a usable program on the CD. There are well-published business rules for data like this, and common sense dictates that you don't keep data like that hanging around - much less for something that you don't even need. The merchant wouldn't have bought it if they weren't sold something as advertised, so the bastards at Initech (or wherever) need to be held accountable - and need to stop watching Superman movies. - msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Lol. Laundry is one of the best jobs you can get in prison. /Oz
- matrox212, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I hope it was worth it. They're gonna be doing prison laundry for a few years to pay for their spending spree.
- funk49, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The Feds will ***** this up the way they ***** up the Shadowcrew case. What a bunch of bafoons. Wonder how they actually we're able to put 2 and 2 together to catch 'em.
The only reason this was probably disclosed is because of SB1386 in CA. On another note, Wells Fargo had 3 "lapses" in security in year...that last one I know about was a laptop that contained 300K records of mortgage and school loan customers. Way to go WF. Don't ever ever bank there. Worst corporate security I've ever experienced from a large financial company. - davidrantz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Why does this always happen in Jersey? Because Jersey is full of very wise guys.
- ted_hosmann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This was happening in CA too!
- awlllwa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0hell yah. These ***** bastards were the one who took my money. Atleast i think it was them. I had my number stolen and there were charges in that area of the country. ( i didnt really read the article) Eather way, im happy they were caught.
- spyres, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1---dont trust those dirty mexicans at drive thru's
Racist Much? - carguy84, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Garbage?
New Jersey?
I would have never put those too together ;) - icefitz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0---
- bnajbert, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Closed today, open tomorrow.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2This is funny because this happened to me 2 days ago. I used a del taco drive through with my debit card (never userd before) and two days later, I had a charge of $125 for some handbag. Make sure to be careful and dont trust those dirty mexicans at drive thru's
- andr3y, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1sorting garbage and looking for your private information, that what they will be doing in prison
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -21/+8Because your home state is the festering armpit of our nation.
Sorry for the... statecism? I just hate everyone from NJ. Mainly on account of all of its inhabitants being *****.


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