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- billbugger, on 09/11/2008, -10/+93that's one small step back in the right direction.
- inactive, on 09/12/2008, -11/+56How come 1/2 the stories on the upcoming pages are by this "MrBabyMan" guy?
- GVR90, on 09/12/2008, -3/+44Hi, come here often?
- diskit, on 09/12/2008, -10/+49MrBabyMan hasn't been banned yet?
Wow. - manstein01, on 09/12/2008, -3/+39Holy crap, the court upheld the constitution. Unfortunately, that seems to be rare these days.
- FreedomMaverick, on 09/12/2008, -5/+34They can also turn your cell phones microphone on so they can listen in.
- orvtech, on 09/12/2008, -5/+32Simple ... he is getting paid ... and he paid some one inside digg
- cornerback42, on 09/11/2008, -20/+41You know what annoys me? The cell phone I had, I lost it downtown one night after getting drunk. It was on and functioning (called it went to VM at :30. The standard no answer but phone on ring. If it was off it would go straight to VM). So it was determined that it was on and GPS activated (I have VZ Navigator 24/7 on it also). It bugged the ***** out of me that I couldn't just go online/make a call to get them to locate my phone which I could then go physically pick up.
Why can't they do this, its pretty annoying that when I want to locate my phone that it won't allow me to.
Pretty lame if you ask me.
Wouldn't it save on insurance premiums if they offered a feature like this to recover operating phones that are lost? (Similar to lojack) You'd think cell/insurance companies would. Guess not. - ajb2015, on 09/12/2008, -0/+21then they couldn't sell you another one.
- RudeTurnip, on 09/12/2008, -1/+19Yeah, but Batman doesn't need a warrant to do the exact same thing.
- dandonia, on 09/12/2008, -1/+18Yeah cos nobody loses small devices ever. Jesus, the guy suggests something that makes sense - every phone can be tracked yet millions get lost. I know it's not the polices job find them all as they are busy but there should be a recovery system in place. I dare say that there is a whole industrys worth of cash to make there. Wouldn't you pay a £30 recovery fee or something like that if you lost your iPhone.
- MWeather, on 09/12/2008, -0/+15Liability? Put the tracker in your account admin. If they can't be sure it's you logging into your account, they need to review their security.
- statrick, on 09/12/2008, -1/+14who dig this down
this is common knowledge, even fox news reported this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1fNjK9SXg - inactive, on 09/11/2008, -29/+41Love the source material, and would digg under other circumstances.
Alas, Buried for MrBusinessMan. - Hetman, on 09/12/2008, -4/+15This is good news. Unfortunatly due to FISA they do not have to follow the 4th amendment. All the government has to say that you are a terrorist, and then you do not have the constitution on your side. And really it is a bad system because the government gets to decide who the terrorist are and their is no oversight, Power corrupts.
- Diggnabbit, on 09/12/2008, -2/+13What? ArsTechnica is being called biased now?
- TheSabre, on 09/12/2008, -0/+11This article is slightly misleading. I say this as someone with knowledge in the field. This article makes mention that a warrant is needed to "turn a cellphone" int a beacon, meaning the action of tracking a cell phone. The courts ruled about historic data, not live tracking. A warrant is required to go back and get historic data about the location of a cell phone. Law enforcement has ALWAYS needed a warrant to actually turn a phone into a beacon in real time.
- Jeffmr1, on 09/12/2008, -1/+11Too much liability for the phone company. Who knows, it might be somebody else calling with your info and they're trying to locate you... I agree that you should be able to do this, but i can see why a phone company may not want to comply.
- Notyavgkat, on 09/12/2008, -2/+10Mr.Baby Man....u got 2 go from here. Just bow out semi-gracefully
- inactive, on 09/12/2008, -2/+9MrBabyMan throws water ballons full of acid at small children waiting for their bus to school if he missed his ad money from not front paging his stories
- MWeather, on 09/12/2008, -3/+10They'll just send national security letters now.
- inactive, on 09/12/2008, -5/+12ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
- LogicBomB, on 09/12/2008, -3/+9Does anyone have still have any faith left in the rule of law these days? Here is how any dispute will go:
1. You are caught and arrested
2. Everyone cries fowl about ignoring the warrent / arrest process and the rules of law
3. Government ignores the public, continues to do whatever it wants. - stuffradio, on 09/12/2008, -2/+8Something about being in a messy basement, and a 2 hour video explaining how he is legit comes to mind.
- whatthefu, on 09/12/2008, -4/+10But how will Batman catch the Joker?
- Seemefearme, on 09/12/2008, -0/+5Amen.
- inactive, on 09/12/2008, -1/+6This won't last for long. New legislation will be passed to ensure this bump in the road doesn't come up again.
- inactive, on 09/12/2008, -4/+9haha!! Buried!
- twistx, on 09/12/2008, -0/+5I don't see how this helps considering that law enforcement can still issue blanket warrants and secure historical geographical data on thousands of people at once with little more than "we're looking for terrorists" as their probable cause.
Why are we allowing telco's to keep geographical history on its users? The argument that cell phones only provide an approximate location may only be the case for the next year or two until GPS becomes a standard on a lot of phones. - Hetman, on 09/12/2008, -1/+6If they say that I am contacting people outside the U.S they can. Just because I call Europe does not make me a terrorist. And as I mentioned the problem is over sight. Their is none. Can you say for sure that they are not illegally tapping american phones who have no connections to foreign countries? What if I call canada? Is that enough for them to tap my phone with out a warrant. It is unconstitutional and against the law.
- chewbie, on 09/12/2008, -3/+8burying good stories that come from him or his circles isn't the most intelligent way to go about it
- dalittle, on 09/12/2008, -2/+7Yea, I agree. I would rather have a little inconvience (actually this is a feature that is not available) than to make it any easier for the cops or FBI or NSA to track every move I make regardless if I actually was doing anything wrong.
- reupbert, on 09/12/2008, -1/+5WRONG! Read ACLU's page about the law here: http://www.aclu.org/safefree/spying/fisa.html and the EFF's page about the law here: http://w2.eff.org/Censorship/Terrorism_militias/fi ...
- TheSabre, on 09/12/2008, -5/+9Except FISA only pertains to FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE, not domestic intelligence. I suppose if you were dealing with a cell provider in Pakistan, then yes, you can use FISA. But they can't just invoke FISA, even if they think you are a terrorist, just to track someone's cell in Philadelphia.
- inactive, on 09/12/2008, -0/+4NOTHING is as bad as Huffpo's spam
- saranagati, on 09/12/2008, -0/+4The way i see it, if they can use it to help convict you of a crime (which is what this warrant was probably for since it was the history of where they'd been), you should also be able to use these records to show you're innocent. If people started committing crimes but left their cell phone at home (or with a friend who they'll use as an alibi) and were found innocent because of it, courts would start second guessing allowing these records to be used as evidence.
- Kyzzyxx, on 09/12/2008, -3/+7Why are the phone companies even allowed to keep a history of where I have been?!
- scooby111, on 09/12/2008, -0/+4Dude. He admitted that he lost it. Why can't the phone company provide some service to help find it? Of course, if they helped find lost phones fewer people would have to buy replacement phones.
- republicker, on 09/12/2008, -0/+4Everything bad is always done in the name of good, especially when the government is involved.
- wunksta, on 09/12/2008, -0/+4ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
- JBmtk, on 09/12/2008, -7/+10auto-bury Mr.BabyMan in process.
- inactive, on 09/12/2008, -2/+5Ebaumsworld
- cchris81, on 09/12/2008, -0/+3you nailed it
- sigg14, on 09/12/2008, -0/+3they will still do it anyway, they just can't use any information gained in court.
- inactive, on 09/12/2008, -0/+3Uhh...this is the way it should be...to begin with..
Just like they wrote on paper
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, an effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall be issued, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Its so funny and sad at the same time that its a "suprise" for us and a "victory" when in reality it should be embedded into the court system to begin with.
What a sad America.. The founding fathers are turning in there graves. - tomis, on 09/13/2008, -0/+3Don't want them tracking you? Rip out your phones GPS chip. That's the only way you'll ever be sure. There are software backdoors on all cell phones to turn certain features on while having them appear "off." It's pretty sad that people can't trust their own government.
- toxicityj, on 09/12/2008, -4/+7people that don't want one person, or group of persons, controlling a majority of the content on the frontpage. aka everyone.
- JBmtk, on 09/12/2008, -3/+6is Mr.BabyMan a known corporate proxie? I always knew he cheated the system, but is he really accepting money? If so, ***** him.
- Nerys, on 09/12/2008, -0/+3Except that they CAN EASILY track your every move. THATS THE POINT OF THIS ARTICLE MAN! We are saying they need a probably cause warrant to do this.
HE IS SAYING well why if its so easy for them can I do not do it myself! - richlw, on 09/12/2008, -0/+24chan likely but originally from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, a very good anime
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