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- DanBoodro, on 12/13/2007, -2/+49Haha, I always love how governments blame hackers for billions of dollars in damages.
Government: "*****! We forgot to update Norton!" - vroom101, on 12/13/2007, -1/+41Master Foo and the Script Kiddie
http://catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/script-ki ... ( catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/script-kiddie.html ) - teh_techie, on 12/13/2007, -0/+17*Burns notepad.exe*... "There..... phew"
- mrjit, on 12/13/2007, -1/+15Hire more young people into FBI/CIA programs, not bureaucratic and useless old bags.
- objectcode, on 12/13/2007, -0/+11im sure they will all stop after reading that comment
- bentrinh, on 12/13/2007, -3/+13All if you guys are talking about CRACKERS not hackers. In case you don't know, crackers do damage, hackers do not.
- inactive, on 12/13/2007, -1/+11Most hackers are just script kiddies the real hackers are the ones that create customized programs for the attack that they are going to make.
- debuggercll, on 12/13/2007, -0/+10There's no place like 127.0.0.1
- crazybugger, on 12/13/2007, -1/+11Law! What law ?
- jacquesm, on 12/13/2007, -4/+12the CIA/NSA would be very happy if all of you 'would be hackers' continue to think that. One of the problems with so called hackers is that they can't imagine there are people smarter than they, and they can imagine even less that those might be in the employ of the govt.
Some of the cleverest people on the planet work on the law enforcement side, they are not going to tip their hand anytime soon but trust me, if you send a packet encrypted that alone is a red flag, and it might as well be plaintext.
If you really wish to communicate securely don't trust an automated cypher, use a one time pad and *BURN IT AFTER USE*, as well as your scrap paper. Both sending and receiving side, and bury your message in the middle of a large volume of data. - DanBoodro, on 12/13/2007, -0/+7Wow, if you think that a hacker is someone who creates viruses and spams people than...wow. Just wow. Indeed some hackers may create viruses, but why would any hacker ever have interest in spamming? And the only ones writing viruses are the power hungry, egotistical, high strung pricks. Unless of course it's completely necessary. And just by displaying how much you get raped by mass media descriptions of hackers, I would very much like for you to be a target in one of those ranting script kiddy's eyes.
- inactive, on 12/13/2007, -0/+7are you serious?
- tendonut, on 12/13/2007, -0/+6Or not.
Anyone ever heard of Fraud Protection? Everybody offers it. But Visa is the only one who advertises it. My bank gave me the money back when my card was stolen the next day, and that was the end of that. - inactive, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5their, there, they're
- choreanz, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5Very nice.
- Mononuclear, on 12/13/2007, -2/+7Master Foo should have given him the IP 127.0.0.1
- teh_techie, on 12/13/2007, -1/+6/sarcasm
^... that was for those of you that couldn't tell he was being sarcastic... - SideShowMel0329, on 12/13/2007, -1/+6Go to Scandinavia and you'd be surprised what kids do with their spare time.
- DESTROYER2118, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5LoL at people clicking random links in a thread about hackers.
- Weksa, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5But why would you depend on your bank to give it back to you? thegame11, was stating some very real ways to take matters into your own hands, while not having to rely on the bank to believe you ... seems smart to me. I like having control, and not having to call anyone afterwards ...
- bump, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4Allow me to pose this question. How would the law ever be ahead of, or even caught up, to the hackers?
- hevnsnt, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4The FBI & CIA have significantly relaxed their Marijuana usage restriction. If I remember correctly I believe it is no more than 15 times & you could not have ever of sold it.
- ksemel, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4Some of the people who work for the government THINK they are the cleverest people on the planet.
Truly clever folks understand they can make three times as much money working in the private sector and they don't have to hand in their ethics at the door. - wvdavis, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4Take it easy Francis.
- inactive, on 12/13/2007, -2/+6As long as the majority of people still think hackers use joysticks to penetrate a company's defenses (like a video game), shooting their way past security defenses (think "Hackers"), it will continue to make the average computer user think that they can't possibly protect themselves from an attack! With a firewall & just simply locking down your wireless internet connection, you are making it almost impossible for 95% of the "hackers" out there who are really just using probes and other tools they got for free online and I doubt have ever done some real hacking in a DOS environment.
- chrispr, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3lol @ every digger is suddenly a Computer Security/Computer Forensics expert.
- inactive, on 12/13/2007, -2/+5Don't count on it! As long as the FBI/CIA still hooks potential candidates up to a lie detector and asks "Have you used marijuana more than 5 times in your life", I have a pretty good idea they're not going to be recruiting real well with some of my hacker friends and associates.
- hevnsnt, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3Nice link -- If I could digg ya twice I would
- mrjit, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3Yeah, they still polygraph the hell out of potentials. At least as of last year.
- inactive, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3Can't believe I've never seen that before.
+del.icio.us - a5tr0cr3ep, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3its an arms race, just like war; one side grows stronger and others catch up or medicine; we make a vaccine and the virus mutates and the medicine has to change. I look at it this way...whatever someone builds (i.e. security features) someone can un-build. its that simple.
- jacquesm, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3the one time pad is the final move in this respect, there is no possibly way to crack it unless you mess up.
- hevnsnt, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3So tell the truth, no problem.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3In reality the Government and Corporations usually don't realize they've been hacked
They don't report it publicly to avoid the embarrassment.
They don't report it publicly to avoid the law suits from lost customer information. - WaRdRivR, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2i know this doesn't add much to the convo. and i'll prob get dugg down but when you mention smart employees of CIA/NSA are you speaking of those working in 'computer forensics'?
- bbrotschi, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2this article starts with a photo of Kevin Mitnick, mis-uses the term hacker and then claims there is no solution, and we are all helpless ?
- andyakadum, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2DUDE, You cant hack a gibson >_>
- mlfoley, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2And God bless them for that!
- scott2007, on 12/13/2007, -1/+3The sad truth is that most system administrators aren't properly trained regarding security issues, such as proper system configuration and the need to keep software updated. This results in end users who aren't protected or adequately trained on security as well.
- darkamster07, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2your comment sounds suspiciously planted...
- chrispr, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Nah, it's actually flipped. There are a few hackers that just enjoy playing on systems, but there's a multi-billion dollar industry in hacking. Luckily for the explorers, most law enforcement agencies care more about the hackers gaining money.
- objectcode, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2or a *nix shell
- SuperCow1127, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Holy crap! Encrypted traffic is a red flag!? I better stop using e-commerce!
I would love to hear about your sources, though I doubt they exist. - 1n4007, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Heh. Reminds me of the script kiddie rapper that tried to hack stophiphop.com but instead erased his own hard drives...
- MindTrigger, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2First of all, the correct term for someone doing DAMAGE during/after breaking into systems is 'Crackers'. 'Hackers' are digital explorers who generally do no harm, and often warn admins of their security holes so they can be plugged.
Now that we got that ***** out of the way....
Crackers/Hackers are proactive, where the authorities are mostly reactive. The authorities have no choice but to put most of their efforts into reacting to whatever is happening at the time. - mrjit, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2It's not about passing the polygraph, it's about passing the polygraph on their terms, with the lifestyle they believe you are supposed to have lived, which I guarantee you 95% of not only Digg, but real life people haven't lived. I won't go into how I know, just take a guess.
- ccheath, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2It's always listed by idiots as Hackers 2 but the two movies are totally unrelated
i prefer the counter documentary to Takedown it's called Freedom Downtime
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0309614/ - WaRdRivR, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2low limit credit cards don't necessarily help your credit look great, on the flip side having high limits doesn't either but thats only when you've used most of the limit. Banks do give money back, and fraud protection does work, CC companies are required to compensate fraudulent purchases over charged $50, thats low! I dunno i think Visa is great. They've set the standard for security.
- darkamster07, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2you don't exactly see hackers getting chucked in jail every day
- yelow, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Jonathan James looks like he's wearing a skirt in the shadow! :D
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