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- FlyingPhotog, on 11/18/2008, -29/+435Do Chinese pirates say "Alllllll!!" instead of "Arrrrrrr!!"?
- GorfTron, on 11/18/2008, -9/+307Pirates...
1 Steal Oil Tanker
2 Crack DRM
3 ???
4 Profit! - shalb, on 11/18/2008, -5/+269So long as you can make something, someone can reverse engineer it. And as long as greedy businessmen continue to dish out overpriced crap, piracy will still be around.
- btschul, on 11/18/2008, -5/+261Pirates found a way around DRM? Huh. Didn't see that one coming.
- dungbeetle, on 11/17/2008, -3/+161They haven't been enough to stop pirates since about the third month of their existence.
- mathcreative, on 11/18/2008, -5/+157$7 is what they should be charging us for Blueray Discs.(that if the movie is over one year old)
- papastout, on 11/18/2008, -9/+14409-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0
psych! - m4csrgh3yk3v, on 11/18/2008, -10/+142Give us value, we buy it.
Restrict us, cheat us, insult our intelligence, we take it. - macross9321, on 11/18/2008, -2/+100720P no DRM HD movies for $7 - yes please
- FurtThePirate, on 11/18/2008, -3/+101Pirates... there be no stoppin them.
- Elranzer, on 11/18/2008, -0/+80$7.20 for a 720p movie
$10.80 for a 1080p movie
$4.80 for a DVD? - EntropyFan, on 11/18/2008, -2/+79I prefer the kind of Pirates that crack DRM to the kind that steal oil tankers.
They seem to use less firearms on a day to day basis. - Intrepion, on 11/18/2008, -6/+77What? No hexadecimal number? Buried.
- kevin52094, on 11/18/2008, -6/+68$7 for a dvd is still a good deal tho
- 80hd, on 11/18/2008, -0/+56Why do manufacturers still think that DRM will fix their issues?
Somewhere at this moment, a legit customer is pissed that they had to junk their first gen Blu ray player while some kid is cheering because he just figured out how to play bootlegs on the same model.
Doesn't that seem to make make the problem worse? - pigfister, on 11/18/2008, -36/+91How can it cripple a failed format?
Lock it up with anti consumer DRM and regional blocks to enable global price fixing and the scam of licensing over ownership forbidding resale, make it as overpriced as possible to satisfy the shareholders because new is "always more expensive".
Sony and Co are far too willing to cripple all their hardware as to enable time stamped expiring blu-rays, and a pay per play infrastructure to enable blu-ray rentals in their continued assault on consumers, to change the business model to a pay per play one with blu-ray profile 2.0>, that they forgot about the consumers actually do like to own their content!
Boycott DRM that is designed to destroy second hand sales like SPDC BD+, secuROM(Sony), boycott DRM that is designed to sell more Bravias, like HDMI HDCP.
RIAA, CRIA, SOUNDEXCHANGE, BPI, IFPI, Ect:
# Sony BMG Music Entertainment
# Warner Music Group
# Universal Music Group
# EMI
MPAA, MPA:
# Sony Pictures
# Warner Bros. (Time Warner)
# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)
# The Walt Disney Company
# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)
# Paramount Pictures Viacom—(DreamWorks owners since February 2006) - mirunit, on 11/18/2008, -3/+56Best Buy - up to 36$. I buy my blu-ray discs off Amazon (~25$), but still - 36$ is unjustifiable. I would say an honest price would be 12 - 19.99 USD.
- inactive, on 11/18/2008, -4/+50Yar har fiddle-dee-dee, bein' a pirate's alright with me! Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free! YOU ARE A PIRATE!
- doshindude, on 11/18/2008, -0/+43haha, that was a great weekend. the internet almost exploded.
- Altotus, on 11/18/2008, -0/+42That's backwards. In Mandarin chinese the 'l' is pronounced as in English (as in 'lao-shi', teacher), whereas they use a retroflex 'r' (one where the tongue is curled up against the back of the mouth) which, to many English speakers, sounds like it's somewhere between an 'l' and an 'r'.
In contrast, the Japanese 'r' sounds very much like the English 'r' (as in 'karate' or 'appuru' (apple)). Japanese has no equivalent of the English 'l'. - shalb, on 11/18/2008, -17/+56Depends. Mandarin does indeed have the 'r' sound. It's the Japanese that make their 'r's sound like 'l's. Chances are it'd turn out more like "Err". It's the closest sound in Mandarin to "Arr".
- inactive, on 11/18/2008, -1/+39riar.
- ssaxusggid, on 11/18/2008, -0/+38I watched one of the Chinese pirated blu-rays...an hour later I wanted more.
- ssaxusggid, on 11/18/2008, -1/+35Send my award to your mom's house, I'll just pick it up there.
- tgc1, on 11/18/2008, -0/+33I still remember the fiasco from the last one. That was kinda funny.
- secrity, on 11/18/2008, -4/+31Back in the day, VHS tapes were about $70
- Xtanto, on 11/18/2008, -1/+27Is there nothing that Piracy can not do?
- NewPunk, on 11/18/2008, -1/+27Old news. Blu-Ray, HD DVD and HDTV rips have been on bittorrent sites for months and months. It'd be easy for Chinese pirates to download them, make fake cases and sell them on the street.
- specialK16, on 11/18/2008, -0/+23Ha, that was a fun afternoon.
- palmdoc, on 11/18/2008, -0/+23Chinese definition of R&D : Receive and Duplicate :P
- bratterscain, on 11/18/2008, -0/+22A come back? lol
When a format is gone, ain't no coming back. - BlatheringIdiot, on 11/18/2008, -3/+24VHS FTW!
- jimmy9pints, on 11/18/2008, -3/+24I live in China so this does not surprise me AT ALL. Chinese pirates can crack anything. Living here I have seen everything faked: clothes, shoes, DVDs, software and even less obvious things like toothpaste and razors. I even saw Windows Vista on pirate DVD/software stands here before the official release date! I told people in the west and they simply didn't believe it.
Many (but not all) people are unscrupulous here and generally, if there's money involved, they'll do anything.
Edit: By the way
"Chinese Blu-ray clones going for as little as $7 apiece"
$7 is expensive. They'd be about $2 here. - ShyGuy91284, on 11/18/2008, -2/+22I'm just wondering how much longer the record industries are going to try this. Modern media DRM only stops joe blow. It also irritates him. It's a waste of time and money. The only way they might actually have some long-term control is by playing big brother and mandating players are connected to the interwebs for authentication and decryption keys, which I for one wouldn't accept (which is why I'm against the DRM ***** in many of today's games).
- reaper527, on 11/18/2008, -4/+24"The news comes at a tough time for Blu-ray. The format's growth is stalling thanks to the high price of discs"
thanks for killing hd-dvd guys, that used the same production lines as standard dvd's, and as such, would have been cheaper. - BxBoy, on 11/18/2008, -2/+21Pirates: 1
DRM: 0 - XIUgraag, on 11/18/2008, -2/+21$5.76 :P
- eviltandem, on 11/18/2008, -0/+19The DRM doesn't affect the ability of pirates to crack it, but it keeps me from buying anything blu-ray.
If I can't easily rip it, encode it, and put it on a media-center, then it might as well not exist. - mirunit, on 11/18/2008, -0/+18Personally, I want LOTR on blu-ray - that would be epic.
- inactive, on 11/18/2008, -0/+18get us laid?
- mohsenxp, on 11/18/2008, -2/+20I definitely wouldn't mind paying $7 for a 720p picture (article doesn't mention the audio, but I'm not enough of an audiophile to tell the difference between DTS/DD and DD TrueHD) even if I know it's not a real bluray.
- Residents, on 11/18/2008, -4/+21Nothing can stop pirates aside from installing software without their knowledge. A big one too that started with DVD's was auto-run protection. It would mess a copy up really bad by interfering during the read phase, but if you just hold down left shift for about 30 seconds while you pop in the DVD it would cancel auto-run causing the protection to fail. Result is it copies like every other disk.
You can't stop pirates, if you can engineer it and it must be readable by DVD/BlueRay players than it can be reverse engineered or cracked - even if it takes some time. In fact, time is always needed. - jollybee34, on 11/18/2008, -11/+28go china go!
- inactive, on 11/18/2008, -1/+18I love that this conversation exists.
- boobsbr, on 11/18/2008, -1/+18are people really this stupid? how many times does the internet have to say this?
IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE CRACKED, YOU MORONS! - inactive, on 11/18/2008, -2/+19ror wut?
- sorepheet, on 11/18/2008, -0/+16@ DangerMouse9:
Don't you mean "@ arr repriers?"
Consistency is key... - inactive, on 11/18/2008, -2/+18"Sony's never been able to outwit the pirates."
PS3 has. The ability to install linux and do whatever we want has killed the homebrewers desire to hack the system, and that's like 99% of the people who have the skills to do it.
It's been 2 years, in this day and age that's a record. - Jektal, on 11/18/2008, -0/+16I think by now we're somewhere in the realm of:
Pirates: 78
DRM: 0 - lambda, on 11/18/2008, -0/+16Aren't the consumers who want blu-rays for cheap greedy as well?
Everyone is greedy. Greed is a human constant. -
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