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- prot0col, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Good! they should do the same in the US.....oh crap they already do.
- Anjow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Less trolls, more farmers.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Good luck.
- InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Wait, China is an oppressive, totalitarian regime who executes and imprisons people at the drop of a hat, and openly stifles freedom and liberties? Tell me again why we invaded Iraq but are buddies with China?
- InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Communism is a political doctrine -- not an economic dotrine. You're thinking of socialism. There are a number of democratic governments with socialist economies.
BTW: The US isn't far behind in this. There have already been attempts here to regulate internet content. Google CAPA. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7What he was saying is that communism is not a form of government, it is an economic system.
You should of said:
"No Surprises there. They are totalitarian!" - flash200, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I see the current Chinese government as the ultimate test for whether the internet can succeed as a medium for open information, and as the strongest future indicator of how much change the internet can bring about.
Admittedly, it's child's play in the US by comparison. But there is some common ground, and the potential for things to get much worse. - freakofnature, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Because the country is controlled by the government, and not by the people, the government is bound to restrict many freedom an individual should have. This is just one of the many examples..
- Politicide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If we're lucky, they'll ban people who put "lol" after every other word from the Internet.
- stevenb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@InetRoadkill
Because china is our largest source of cheap labour and goods.
Wouldn't wanna disrupt companies like walmart with a petty war or dissagreement with china. ya know? - proton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4No, it's the government trying to keep corporations from regulating the internet like a fascist.
- flash200, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That they see the internet and open communication in general as such a threat, says a great deal about the current Chinese government.
I only see two possibilities 20 years from now: either there's no longer a communist government in China (in its current form), or the entire country has somehow been reverted back to the pre-industrial age. The second case is no doubt very unlikely.
As the information age progresses, there's just not much room for an in-between. You can't have useful technology without allowing some of the freedoms that it creates. Conversely, you can't remove all freedoms from a technology, without losing 99.9% of the usefulness the technology has.
The US faces its own comparable dilemma. If DRM, DCMA, and future laws related to these are allowed to go to their logical conclusion, computers would become essentially useless, and the technology of the country as a whole would quickly decline. At present, China is farther down this path than the US, but it's the same path.
It may simply be the inevitable growing pains of the information age; as those in a position of power struggle to prevent widespread change from taking place. - amed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3why are they doing this? why is the chiness goverment soo eager to control everything?
I thought communisim is all about sharing and being loyal to one another? - poipoipoi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5i wonder if China has far less trolls?
- mark1372, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Good thing the spam problem originating from China has been solved. Whew.
- dasunst3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just when Cambridge breached the Great Firewall: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/04/1221253
I guess it's back to work for those folks... So ironic that China dare call themselves the "People's Republic" when the people don't have any freedom. - zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's China it's just the way they are.
I do think that this is a warning of what your country could do to your Internet access.
You need to keep after your governments who are trying to monitor, control and block off your
access to the Internet.
People need to keep more of an eye on whats going on in your own back yard in the
name of protecting you. Rather than worrying about china. - brentris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Their goal is to prevent uprisings and dissent within the state, but this extreme relentless internet censorship can only serve to fuel people's discontent with their government and hate it and want to uprise more. People will get information, that's inevitable...
- lunchbox170, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You know on paper communism is a very good form of government, the only problem is there is not enough incentive. That is why communism will always fail, always. There is no incentive. Learn that in economics class.
- gamekid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They'll need it.
- williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh come on, in China the government still owns a large share of the telecom companies. In the U.S. they have to appeal to strong idealists like Ed Whitacre, who would sacrifice their careers to protect our privacy. Yeah, they had to, uh, speak to him sternly. Well, ok, he actually offered to sell out his customers. But he didn't laugh while doing it. No siree. He only smiled.
- phonepimpbill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think this can only go wong.
- NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Because if the Chinese people ever figure out that Mao killed more Chinese than Tojo, a lot of commie heads will roll.
-jcr - chevy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Communist nations are always totalitarian, they all subscribe to some mystical "withering of the state" in the future, once the pervasive and repressive government has taught everyone to love each other and get along it will just naturally wither away...
- mtnbluet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1viva la fee internet---may the chinese govt never suceed!
- LunchB0x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Once again, that's socialism, not Communism.
- bkemper, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Exactly, theevocater. Or "No Surprises there. It's the Chinese Communist Party!"
- bkemper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't think it was ever about that.
- Asterus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I've never understood this notion of distinguishing the economy so thoroughly from the rest of civil society as to pretend that the former can be regimented and controlled while the latter remains "free".
Communism is inherently totalitarian precisely because of its nature as as economic system: if you give a centralized bureaucracy the level of control over society necessary to centrally plan the economy, you're giving them de facto control over *everything*.
China has become more economically free in recent years not because the communist system collapsed and a natural market arose in its absence, but because the government finally realized that central planning according to socialist doctrine does not produce the desired results, and deliberately restrained communist practice. The apparatus of state control is still in place, though, and is still being used for other purposes, e.g. internet censorship. - perryb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm sure that all the mobile phone and software companies will be more than accommodating toward helping them achieve this aim.
God bless market forces. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wonder who decides who should form the Government in a communist nation. Sounds more like dictatorship to me.
- bkemper, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9So? Is you point that because if a country has a communist economic system that its government must therefore be totalitarian? I don't see the connection.
- williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That IS dangerous information. Similarly, our FBI is on the lookout for people who insist our Constitutuion is a law the government must obey. Yup, make "numerous references" to the Constitution and you, yes you, could be a terrorist.
- davidosomething, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1props on cnet using the word cyberspace and not losing credibility
- ja1217, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Not only are more people executed there, but that does not even include the large number of abortions and abandoned children brought on by their One Child Policy, but this is a whole issue in and of itself.
- prot0col, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The name "People's Republic" was screwed up in the translation. It actually is the "People's Prison".
- schlongmeister, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"...because more and more harmful information is being circulated online."
You know, REAL dangerous stuff like information about Tiannamen Square, Tibetan independence, & why Communism failed in Eastern Europe and will eventually fail in Asia... - verkalac, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2infoworld's version:
http://digg.com/tech_news/China_to_reign_in_blogs,_search_engines - scheper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2He's right: China executes more people annually than the entire rest of the world combined and multiplied by ten.
- antitab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0THat wud B awsm!!!1
- halicon5, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well, Iraq has a population that sits neatly in the Millions while China has an army almost as large, if not larger than the entire US population. The phrase "Never fight a land war in China" comes to mind...
Oh, and then there's the issue that I'm sure a bunch of the components of our military infrastructure and munitions are "hecho in china." - RexKwando, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6I bet the U.S. is next!
~1984 - freakofnature, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4And also communism just doesn't extent to economic in china. It stretches beyond politics.
- Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1dont you think its kind of funny the way that your all for net neutrality and thats the goverment regulating the internet like a commi
- krisper, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Unfortunately, the penalties for violating these sorts of governmental prohibitions in China are a little more severe than getting a mean letter from the RIAA, or having your favorite pirate site shut down for a day. I have zero patience for Western Torrent/DRM brats who think they're fighting some kind of "people's revolution" when the real battle for internet freedom is being fought in China.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Well communism doesn't make a government totalitarian. It just leads it.
- freakofnature, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6No surprises there. They are communist!
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