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- openthink, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22is this their way of demonstrating to the world, pre-olympics, that they're moving in the direction of offering greater liberties, respecting human rights, etc? pretty scary really.
- Piedramente, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20So in other words, they're following London's example.
Thanks chaps! - Brasky, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14How can this possibly work? Everyone knows all asians look the same...
Sorry, nobody had said it yet. - DiggsOnlyJew, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Don't worry, I'm sure someone on here will tell you how China's civil liberties are far better than in America.
- JFitzpatrick, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Every year I find it more depressing when the novelists from my childhood deliver not on promises of universal vaccinations, electronically enhanced reflexes, and pleasant robot servants... but instead of totalitarian oppression, cradle to grave surveillance and obscenely high taxation to support a nanny police state. I want my god damn flying car.
- 4degrees, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12is this how america will test its new oppression tech soon to be implemented in america?
- HighCountry1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Quick! Everyone put on masks!
- MrPig, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Well, at least we still have more rights than China... I wonder how long that'll last...
- Piedramente, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Does "unusual activity" include political dissent?
Freedom takes another hit... - georgio5, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7wasn't this on the cover of drudge like 3 days ago?
scary ***** though..1984-ish - Brasky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Congrats! You have no sense of humor!
- Toupee, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I just watched Children of Men recently.
A scary step in that direction... :( - Battleloser, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9Don't let anyone take your guns. Seriously, and if you don't have one, go get one and keep it somewhere safe and close by.
- BlacklabelSAR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5My wife and I are each buying an AR-15 and a Gloc....you are absolutely correct. I'd rather die trying than live on my knees. And for point of reference, I try not to step on bugs so if I am willing to invest in firearms, consider how many Americans already have guns.
- risensun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5You can only boldly pronounce that b/c in the free world, you take for granted the right to a fair trial.
Try something over there and see what happens to you or your family. You don't need to have anything to hide. - chenyu768, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5America is a democracy?
- ramong, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6More control, just what democracy needs...
- absinth1977, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"soon be guided by sophisticated computer software from an American-financed company to recognize automatically the faces of police suspects and detect unusual activity."
Big Brother is WATCHING
Welcome to 1984 - DiggsOnlyJew, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5China = Democracy?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Bush is counting on them to sell him some of them cameras on the cheap.
Hey heres a fun game guess how many cameras there are watching you in D.C? - krnldmp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You can almost guarantee that NO change in crime will occur, unless you include the new crimes committed through use of the camera technology.
- imkookoo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think people who blindly think that America is the most perfect country in the world without any imperfections need to leave America. It would do America that much better. The whole foundations of America is based on change, and change requires dissent and dissatisfaction. If you can't stand differences of opinion about America or otherwise, maybe China would be the better place for you.
- m00nstone, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3No it isn't. Elected leaders represent corporations not the people. In theory you may be right. Reality, NO.
- mwilli20, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3All governments can slide towards tyranny. Even the US one. It is then that you want them to have as few tools as possible to fight against the democratic forces. That's the primary reason why one has to fight for one's civil rights.
- fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Didn't I read last week that you guys are putting cameras up all over the place too?
- SquigglyP, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4The apathy on here about this is ***** terrifying. Americans have no concept of their rights. People in China can be put to death for crimes that, here in the US, would be punished with probation or a year or two served. Political Dissent is met with life-time prison terms and death sentences. People here will go out and parade in the streets and burn flags and then get whiney if someone asks them nicely to keep the noise down. Burn a Chinese flag in China and you're looking at spending the rest of your life in jail. The fact that there are people in China that do that sort of thing shows FAR more courage than doing any such gesture in the US.
http://hrichina.org/public/ - Travelsonic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3No expectation of "privacy" in public, in of itself is not ABSOLUTE, and is VERY DIFFERENT from the idea of having a certain expectation of not getting stalked.
- BangSplat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'm all for it.
Next let's look at exploding colars.
You break the law. Boom!
Off with the head! - SQLSam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Move to China then. You may care less, but I like having privacy - how free are you if you are being watched all the time? Example: I just f*cked your 18 year old sister, this act wasn't illegal, why should it be taped? And who are these people that watch these tapes? If other people are indeed watching these tapes - their opinions, biases are there too. Maybe the person who was watching the tape was molested, maybe he/she gets crazy when watching me bang your sister because he/she is messed up in the head (or simply he/she liked your sister and cant stand that I'm banging her). Maybe this person then calls you to hopefully start "something" happening even though I have broken no law. Now suddenly I'm being harassed by you (or some other fool) for someone else's screwed up bias.
I know this is a way out there example, but anything is possible and I'll keep my freedoms thank you. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Crane and tether sold separately.
- manicallday, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I didn't realize people like you actually existed.
- Travelsonic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Get falsely accused of a crime, then talk.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4"Those who beat their guns into plow shares will plow for those who didn't." - Quote attributed to Thomas Jefferson
- geekee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2In China, I'd say it's safe to answer yes.
- bitterscream, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yawn.. facial recognition has been in use in north america for years. Pretty much every casino has one implementation or another.
http://www.biometrica.com/
http://ir.l1id.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=208488
http://casinoniagara.com/Default.aspx?One+Description+Casino+Privacy#10 - Scheissen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2No, it's not perception it's reality. America is a melting pot, China isn't. So they look similar and similar every generation.
- Killroy1971, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Coming soon to a Western European city near you.
- SquigglyP, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2This is the sort of ***** they're trying to get on the table over here, with the Federal ID Cards and the Passport chips, biochips, etc. If anything like that were ever actually implemented here it would be my cue to either leave the country permanently or live 'off the grid' effectively nomadic or homeless. It would be the only way to ensure you wouldn't just be picked up one day and never seen again. My sister and brother-in-law know a lot of people in the middle-east and other countries, and he's Muslim as well. I worry about them whenever ***** like this pops up in reference to the US.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The problem is that these systems are supported by politicians who are either dumb as ***** or easily led or both. Someone tells them that their company is capable of providing a comprehensive solution and really sells it up. What's actually delivered is a half-assed and over priced pile of ***** that sometimes works properly but is full of more bugs than your average ant hill. By the time everyone realizes what a mistake it all was, the politicians who pushed for this system are now either nowhere to be found or are lying to the public about who's fault it is. Meanwhile, the average Joe is getting screwed but he won't care until it really ***** up his life. Even then, his firends and neighbors won't help for fear of ending up like Joe. (Or American Idol is on.)
- LordSlashstab55, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Maybe our government is learning from the Chinese on how to repress the individual
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Bush wants
- chrismgtis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Well, at least I can rest assured that if I am the most famous villain of all time, I can hide in China. Their face recognition software is programmed for slanted eyes and I am American.
- JackDuluoz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2This is a good way to test something to be introduced into the States at a later date...With, say, a national ID card?
- mwilli20, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3>But they say the technology can be used to violate civil rights...
The Technology IS a violation of human rights!!! - fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2For all your flying car needs:
http://www.moller.com/ - UlicBelouve, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Well, they need this system in order to watch for people reincarnating illegally:
http://digg.com/offbeat_news/China_bans_reincarnating_without_government_permission - BlacklabelSAR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2What someone will do to others, they will eventually do to you.
- chopenik, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Be advised that America seems to simulate a lot of things that China is doing. The keyword in all this incremental ism, that way no one really notices it until its too late. For all those who think this is so benign or that it can't happen here, what guarantee do you have that it won't...... a promise of your politicians?
- shig, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It's already here in some aspects. The face scan for "terrorists" at the super bowl, for example. The face scan at casinos too. They also face scan at airports.
It's an American company supplying the technology, and the technology itself was developed by the U.S. long ago. Some municipal police departments are asking for the technology, and I assume it won't be long before we're face scanned almost as much as we're on CCTV. We're putting up CCTV cameras in America at a faster rate than Britain, which means more cost to the American taxpayer, because it's federal money funding these programs. - glitternbells, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Here in the US any participation in a Peace organization withing the last 30 years is considered terrorist activity and can get you flagged at the airport.
How does that quote go......First they came for the (...) and since I wasn't a. (.....) I said/did nothing.......and so on. Then they came for me... -
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