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- hrana, on 10/12/2007, -11/+78So lets see... they said they were tapping only international calls but nothing else. Then we found out they were keeping logs of who was calling who within the United States without any judicial over site but nothing else. Then we find out that my bank records are open for their viewing pleasure but nothing else. So what's next? The New Scientist recently reported the Pentagon is considering harvesting information from social networking sites to build more complete profiles on people. The LAPD recently began testing and deploying unmanned aircraft to patrol the skies above South California.
I'd like to know when we are going to either have bar codes stamped on our forearms or RFID chips embedded beneath our skin. Will those also be essential for security? - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -12/+74Someone should tap Cheney's bank records and see how much tax revenue he has embezzled in offshore accounts and other money laundering schemes over the years. What a sonofabitch.
America, what's the matter with you? Have you all lost your balls? - thoughtcancer, on 10/12/2007, -16/+59As long as Americans can still have their fast food, shopping malls, reality TV, Jesus, and celebrity worshhip, Cheney can do whatever the ***** he wants and no one will care.
Bread and Circuses, anyone? - atdigg, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29as somebody said before: "one nation under surveillance"
- Bogtha, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25@Atomic1fire,
> if you insult the president you get dugg up if you at least semi agree with him or support what hes doing you get dugg down how democratic is that
Very democratic.
Let me explain something, because it seems to be a misconception many people have.
DEMOCRACY DOES NOT MEAN GETTING YOUR OWN WAY ALL THE TIME AND IT DOESN'T MEAN A 50-50 SPLIT BETWEEN TWO SIDES.
If your comments are being dugg down, that doesn't mean there's a lack of democracy, it means the majority of people disagree with you. - deanlowe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+201984 is not in the past, it's your future!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20He *doesn't*? My Cheney has done VASTLY more damage to my freedom, privacy and well-being than all the members of the Taliban rolled into one.
If that's not Jihad, it'll do until one comes along... - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23He's not crazy, he's a cold, calculating gangster. He's the real Al Soprano, and on a scale the mafia could only dream of. BILLIONS.
- Kirium, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24Something is going to need to be done about the "land of the free" line in you National Anthem...
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23Dick Cheney isn't the Devil....
....He's much, much worse. - nogami, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22I blame the native Germans for not standing up to their government - they got sucked-in by a leader with charisma (ok, Bush doesn't have that), and started a downward spiral that led to their eventual defeat and collapse...
So who the hell else is going to do something about it?
So yes common Americans citizens, we, the rest of the world blame YOU for not doing anything about YOUR government. If you aren't going to do it, who the hell is? Your government sure won't listen to anyone outside your borders, so, regretfully, you're the best of what's left... - dgolding, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Tracking financial records has been a key aspect of law enforcement for almost a century. This program, unlike wiretapping, was evidently very narrowly focused and had pretty tight privacy controls. Records were properly subpeoned, and congress was informed as per the law. If the wiretapping program had been run like this, there would not be an issue with it. Everyone knows that financial transactions in the US and internationally are and have been closely tracked for years - for tax evasion and money laundering reasons, if nothing else. Why do you think that > $10k transactions at banks require extra paperwork. I'm as much of a civil libertarian as anyone, but taking away the ability to track the financial trails of terrorists will destroy our law enforcement efforts. Are people on Digg concerned about the privacy of their international wire transfers and numbered swiss accounts? How many of us even have these things, ever? Its not like making a phone call...
I realize its funny to just ritually intone "Cheney sucks" or mutter about Bush being dumb. I'm not denying these things may be true. However, its dangerous to issue blanket condemnations of all law enforcement programs. - p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19Let me take a wild guess here: I'll Mr. Cheney's bank records aren't tapped. But OURS are?
Someone needs to retire back to Wyoming... - friend18, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin - Lowry, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19I'm pissed off, rather than writing a funny comment so I will get diggs in here I'd just like to say that this is ***** *****.
- chaosmachine, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17actually, rumor has it he's full of marshmallows.
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14"An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens." ~Thomas Jefferson
- williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12@tidu
I am a small-government, non-intervensionist Republican. Been one all my voting life. I don't get modded down except by the neocon warmongers on this forum, and I make plenty of comments that go against the usual Democrat big-government template.
This war, and the surveillance state, are a failure and an evil that no real conservative likes. - gwjc, on 10/12/2007, -12/+21 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
- Celeron, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18Dick Cheney is full of bull *****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14But we must be protected from the terrorists!
- dmoney22, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Apparently everything from the current administration is "absolutely essential" to protecting the country from further attacks.
- mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Tap a bank record? Maybe "Cheney Calls Bank Record Survelience Essential", nice job feeding off the wake of the NSA wiretaps. As for the bank records, you can't buy fertilizer or rent a truck without money!
- tehgooch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Next: Secretely conducted cavity searches for all citizens. It's absolutely essential!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10The bank records were obtained using a subpoena. Meaning there was judicial oversight and members of Congress knew about the program. This is not the same as the obviously unconstitutional NSA wiretapping case. While I agree with your concern over increased surveillance, there is a legitimate debate over the legallity.
Not exactly tuna and yes thats what they wanted you to believe when they used that word; subpoena. But it isnt a judical supoena. It is an executive one or a "national security letter" it isnt the same thing as oversight judical or otherwise, and select memebers of congress were only told after the times made it clear it was going to run the story. - dharm, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15@pabster
your whole comment was FUD... time to grow up (or grow down) - tidu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11I have been reading all of the dugg down comments... and they're all conservative-minded. Someone said this was "very democratic"... that's "very unlikely" when it's pretty much unipartisan...
Just because you don't agree with their ideas, DON'T MOD THEM DOWN. If they use foul language, insult other people or force their ideas upon you, then fine. But if someone is just trying to prove a point or get a discussion going, let the comment be. They might be wrong in your eyes, but not someone else's.
This is the epitome of CENSORSHIP, (!) which I know all you are completely against. So please, be a little open-minded. - mgreenwald, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Its not whether or not we are actually committing crimes or sending money to terroristas. Its the idea of privacy. Have you heard of it? Maybe you don't care but most people would prefer not having their ***** ***** eyed over by some douche bag in a government office.
Hey ***** pick up a book called "The Whiskey Rebellion" and find out what Americans where like before you ***** moved to town. You Ann Coulter types really break my balls. You think I'm a pussy liberal I'd ***** pick up a rifle and fight for my country any day it was a just fight. - dmoney22, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@ tuna1,
Don't diss lokust for standing out and saying something, many people changed the world by doing such a thing. - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11That's true, but don't eat the marshmallows, they're laced with arsenic.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10But what about the child terrorists?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+17"America, what's the matter with you? Have you all lost your balls?"
Do you also blame common German people for letting Hitler happen, *****?
We, sadly, don't quite have the societal brownian motion up to enough of a boil for someone to actually take Bush and his croneys out yet. Doesn't mean we all just bow down before their "radiant majesty."
What country are you from? It would be very interesting to have a look at your government's no-doubt spotless, perfect leaders. - espek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I am honestly afraid to post anything negative about the current administration for fear of being put on a list somewhere. How's that for living in the ***** of liberty and freedom.
- matthiasgoodman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You actually can see their tax records. There are probably free places to get them but the first one on google was for this paid CD-ROM version:
http://www.paperlessarchives.com/gwb.html - eschompthis, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13Dick Cheney can suck my Dick Cheney. Hes a Robot he needs to die already, I sound mean but the dude is ***** crazy.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Gonna love Digg v3! More political debates!
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10"Someone should tap Cheney's bank records and see how much tax revenue he has embezzled in offshore accounts and other money laundering schemes over the years. What a sonofabitch."
Money Laundering....hmmmm... wait a sec...
I can't believe what a bunch of nerds we are. We're looking up "money laundering" in the dictionary.
-Peter Gibbons
Also.
@Atomic1fire
use some punctuation. Cant understand a word of what u said - deanlowe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Why stop at moonbat? There are a lot more you could've used.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pejorative_political_terms - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Absolute power corrupts absolutely Kings Bush/Cheney! Will the new digg have a way to filter out right-wing propaganda?
- boxomojo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@ igeterix again
the riots in france had to do with socio-economic situations and NOTHING to do with radical islam. and people attackiing the danish embassy in lebanon does not at all equal the country of denmark "going under." find out what you're saying before you write about it.
and don't twist what i said about religion. i simply said, be religious at home, and leave me out of it. is that so hard? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@williamdyer: I agree completely. I’m actually a liberal but I have modded up plenty of conservatives like you (and modded down liberals). It’s only the war crazed ones that say any one who does not agree with them is a terrorist that get modded down.
- atdigg, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I think this current administration is antiamerican even though it claims otherwise.
- boxomojo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7people who don't like being spied on are more american than you, *****
- psylence, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7mirunit: Nothing to hide, nothing to fear right?
Ugh... - Mneitzel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Hey they can look at min, if I can see Cheney's and Bush's account. And maybe the phone records, As a tax payer, I think its my right.
- boxomojo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@ elnerdo
because of bible thumping ***** like you, non-christians in this country are forced to participate in religious and faith affirming rituals that have no place in the public square. as atheists we're not worried about 'offending' any god when saying the pledge of allegiance. on the contrary, being forced to say it offends our sensibilities. my question is, how does it offend you to pray to your god at home and not force other people to do it with you?
ugh and at igeterix- that's the worst thing i've ever heard. which countries have 'gone under' from not following george bush to war? - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@JohnCrichton
It always makes me smile when people say that to me. First of all, you assume I'm a "liberal" because I used an intelligent quote (maybe that says something right there?)
Without writing a book, here is my argument. You give the government more power, and they'll take it and they'll abuse it. I have 4000 years of human history to back up my claims. Go ahead, remove the checks and balances from our Democracy, and soon you will find yourself in a dictatorship.
Mark my words. - dirtyfratboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ vvaduva
"dirtyfratboy...you are an ***** dude. You've been using digg as your personal politics splash page forever. While you are putting on your anti-american mask, are you also enjoying the dictatorial, one-sided "reporting" you've been pushing on the millions of digg readers? It feels good to control people's minds doesn't it while you criticize Bush for keeping your ass safe to do so. The irony doesn't get thicker than that!"
Digg as my political splash page? If people submit stories and others digg that story, then that's Digg at work. Try somewhere else if you don't like it.
I'm Anti-American? Tell that to all the other Digg users that dugg this story.
I'm a dictator now? I never asked anyone to digg my stories, nor have I forced myself upon other users. Blame the users that dugg my stories...
I control the minds of users? Digg reflects the masses' interests. Again, no one forces users to view certain webpages. That's the job of editors and there are no editors at Digg.
Finally, I would like to thank Bush for keeping my "ass," along with your "ass," and all the other "asses" of the American people safe. Thank you. - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Guess what iGeterix? All Muslims are not bad.
You dont see people angry at North Koreans. The ones with Nukes.
You dont see people angry at the Russian Terrorists. Also the ones with Nukes
You do see people angry at the Muslims. The only ones in the world who WANT nukes, but dont have them.
Theres predujuce for you. its OK to be angry at some people more than others. Even if they all do the same crime.
If a muslim blows up a government building, there will be more outcry than if anyone else blows the same building up. Its predijuce (sp?)
You are the kind of Person that the Republican Propaganda gets to. You are gullible. And will follow anything the government says. Theres NO WAY there can be wrong. right? - spydabyte, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I just see a McCarthy maneuver in our near future.
Can you say Red Scare 2? -
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